Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pawtucketville

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The result was speedy keep. I withdraw the nomination. (non-admin closure) MrClog (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pawtucketville

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A small neighbourhood is only notable if "they consist of legally separate municipalities or communes" (per WP:NPLACE). Pawtucketville has only 29,561 inhabitants (see here), and appears to fall under the definition of small suburb. It does not consist of a "legally separate [municipality] or [commune]". The neighbourhood is already discussed at Lowell, Massachusetts, and thus can be deleted as a merge is unnecessary. MrClog (talk) 14:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 14:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 14:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. NPLACE is not a notability guideline. Rather, it is a documentation of common AfD outcomes. It does not prescribe that outcome, that's just what has often happened in the past. Each case is treated on its own merits. Besides which, the nom has cherrypicked what it actually says. It certainly does not proscribe unincorporated communities – point #4 says Larger neighborhoods are usually kept if their names are found to have verifiable widespread usage. This article contains a lot of referenced historical material that is not found in the Lowell article, so the idea that this could be deleted without losing information is disingenuous. If I have read the history of the place correctly, Pawtucketville was a separate community until 1874 when it was annexed by Lowell. Its founding actually predates Lowell, so it was probably an incorporated settlement up to that time and notability is not temporary. SpinningSpark 15:45, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Once notable as a separate community before 1874, always notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:39, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per all. Regardless of how one interprets NPLACE, it was a separate community pre-1874 and thus gets its own notability per Roxbury et al. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:26, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per reasons already stated. Swampyank (talk) 01:19, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Reasons already said. Syndicater (talk) 01:23, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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