Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Political stagnation
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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This is just a vague general term. It's not a notable concept or phenomenon. The entire article is primarily composed of WP:OR that does not use the term, as well as a few cases where individuals have used the general term in random and inconsistent ways. Thenightaway (talk) 15:47, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:22, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Original research which would be a pain to maintain. Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 23:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- OK, as said above, OR cannot just be presumed. The onus is on you. if you think it is OR, please explain, with examples, where the OR is? Crawiki (talk) 18:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry to say, but this is mostly careless generalisation. Point by point;
- 'This is just a vague general term. It's not a notable concept or phenomenon'... not so. a google search on 'political stagnation' reveals numerous scholarly articles on the subject, referencing key persons/ publications such as Mikhail Gorbachev and the Spectator magazine.
- 'The entire article is primarily composed of WP:OR that does not use the term'... I note that Thenightaway gives no examples to support this, perhaps he/she would care to do so and all objections can then be debated. A brief read of the article shows that use of the words 'entire' and 'primarily' is, frankly, dishonest.
- 'Individuals have used the general term in random and inconsistent ways'. Again, no examples are provided to support this point. Crawiki (talk) 11:58, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all the sources in this article essentially boil down to *individually* describing countries going through periods or processes of political stagnation; those sources are therefore useful for articles on those countries. They cannot be *synthesised* into a generalised understanding of political stagnation; that is original research. Support for the existence of this article requires sources that examine political stagnation as a theoretical concept across a variety of situations/contexts/countries etc. Those sources don't really exist because the notion of "political stagnation" is so generalised, it's no different than the term "political change". It's no more than a shorthand description used to characterise a particular situation, not something that contains meaning in and of itself (which would potentially establish the necessity for an article). At very best, it could be a dictionary entry, but unfortunately we're not here to build a dictionary. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 03:34, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- There are related discussions about the article "State collapse" (which is proposed to be merged with Failed State:[1]) and "Political midlife crisis"(which is proposed for deletion here:[2]), which appear to have been created by the same editor. Thenightaway (talk) 13:29, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, objection from the page creator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. An interesting subject, but it seems to be a WP:SYNTHESIS rather than an accepted topic of study. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:22, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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