Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/R. N. Manickam

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 20:53, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

R. N. Manickam

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Biography of a senior police figure who had a long career with various posts. He doesn’t seem to have won any awards, held any clearly notable positions or otherwise done anything that would qualify him for inclusion. Mccapra (talk) 21:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 21:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
He was the first Principal Director of the Directorate General of Security (India), one of the four intelligence organisations of India, which is connected with the covert operations. In that capacity, he had headed the organisation under the general command of the chief of R&AW. In other words, he headed India's covert operations during that period. This included activities of ARC, SFF and SSB. Moreover, he had also headed the state police of Tamil Nadu (at that time, Inspector General was the top rank. Posts like DG and ADG were not yet created). A person who had headed a state force as well as a central force should be considered notable. As for his "doing anything", he had headed the ARC at the time of Bangladesh War, and ARC, being India's aerial and technical intelligence agency, was used in that war (ARC was split later to create the NTRO; but at that time, it was the only agency for technical intelligence). Mrparijat (talk) 06:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:11, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, I'm unsure if WP:POLITICIAN covers appointees, but if so the ARC and DGS seems to be national-level offices of some importance. Sources may be available in an Indian language, but there aren't interwiki links to guess which one or how to search for it. Rusalkii (talk) 03:44, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:43, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The original objector had asked about awards. I did not initially know how to search for it. Sorry for that. Now I have found it and included in the article. The subject had received IPM (Indian Police Medal) twice, once for meritorious service and once for distinguished service. This is the second highest police medal of India, after the PPM. Both awards were received while he was in state service. In that Govt. site, searching is not possible for R&AW/DGS personnel, probably because of the covert nature of those organisations. For example 1 and 2, both PPM (Bangladesh Special Award) recipients while serving in DGS, cannot be found by searching in the list. The subject is likely to have received medals while in DGS, but I have not found a way for a suitable search. Mrparijat (talk) 10:49, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.