Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rivière des Pins

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Initial nomination reason was invalidated and a new one hasn't been presented. Any other merge discussions can happen elsewhere. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 08:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rivière des Pins

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There is only one article that includes 'Rivière des Pins' in its title. Perhaps Rivière des Pins (Blanc Lake) should be moved to Rivière des Pins. Leschnei (talk) 13:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Leschnei (talk) 13:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that Rivière des Pins (Blanc Lake) should be moved; there's at least one more stream with the name and it's a matter of time before an article is created about it. – Uanfala (talk) 13:45, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Veillg1 has added a second entry, Rivière des Pins (Nicolet River tributary), so there is now no reason to delete this page. Leschnei (talk) 23:14, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: with Leschnei's addition this is a perfectly valid little dab page with a useful "see also" (and I've now added a reciprocal "See also" link from Rivière aux Pins). PamD 08:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Hmm, or maybe we should merge the two dab pages for "des Pins" and "aux Pins"? PamD 08:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And that's been an entertaining 50 minutes or so, sorting out the various aspects of "pins" including making sure that Jacob Pins could be found by his surname... Such is the time-sink of Wikipedia in lockdown. But much more constructive than doing jigsaw puzzles, with which it has a certain similarity! PamD 09:37, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Comment if it is merged, it should use Rivière Pins (disambiguation)/Rivière Pins -- though you could also use Pine River (disambiguation) -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 17:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree: no point in inventing another term, nor in using an English term for rivers named in French. PamD 20:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Rivière Pins" would be a valid search term for either of the existing pages. And as for Pine River, the translated English title should exist from English languages works from before the Quiet Revolution, just as many places in Quebec have older translated English names that aren't used much anymore. Since such a search term should already exist, splitting the difference in the spellings would also result in such a pagename, it doesn't favour one form over another. Using the English translated term might be anachronistic, as we're not in the early 20th or 19th century anymore. -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 22:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE There seem to be additional rivers (when I looked in bgc) with "Rivière de Pin" or "Rivière au Pin" about. (singular of pins (pines) is (pine) pin). Which someone might want to add to various articles on rivers to which they are tributaries to. -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 22:35, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.