Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robbie Lawton

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The result was delete as he fails WP:ATHLETE. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 23:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Robbie Lawton

Contested PROD by IP user with no explantion as to why. Player fails notability at WP:ATHLETE having never played in a fully professional league/competition. --Jimbo^[online] 12:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Bettia (rawr CRUSH!) 14:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:FOOTYN easily too. Bettia (rawr CRUSH!) 14:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. But does it? According to WP:FOOTYN one is notable if one has " played for a fully professional club at a national level of the league structure ". Lawton plays for Altrincham F.C. in Conference National. Conference National is at the national level of the league structure (unlike Conference North and Conference South. Some teams in Conference National are full-time professional - but is Altrincham F.C.? (I have my doubts given their normal position at the bottom of the league.) It may fail WP:FOOTYN but it certainly isn't an easy fail. Nfitz (talk) 18:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - Alty are a part-time club. WP:FOOTYN is just a WikiProject guideline, the notability policy set is at WP:ATHLETE. --Jimbo^[online] 20:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per nom. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 20:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP - He has played against professional teams in the FA Cup, such as QPR. He may not have played for a professional club (debatable) but he is still one of the main squad members, being the captain. There are many other pages on players who are his age, playing at the same level who rarely get a game. The only reason they aren't up for deletion is that they have been with a professional team in the past, for maybe just one season, hardly get a game yet because they were with the pro. club the article was allowed to stay. E.g. Danny Potter or Lewis Killeen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.160.127 (talk) 21:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Potter fails notability, perhaps you should PROD the article or start the AfD. Killeen has played in a fully professional league, so he passes. Plenty of non-league clubs play professional teams in the FA Cup, this does not confer notability. --Jimbo^[online] 22:31, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment What I am trying to say is that he is a main member of the Altrincham squad being captain and playing many games, were as other players have only played one game for a pro. side and then maybe a max. of 25 games for a non-pro. side. Those players are not very notable were as Robbie is. 92.12.217.42 (talk) 10:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reluctant delete - borderline, but that's what borders are for. Altrincham, Caernarfon and Vauxhall are all semi-pro sides, according to their websites. Grutness...wha? 02:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Another reluctant delete. Doesn't meet WP:ATHLETE, WP:FOOTYN, or WP:BIO. Nfitz (talk) 06:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; fails WP:ATHLETE. Giant Snowman 11:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:ATHLETE, as he has not played in a fully professional league. Giants2008 (17-14) 21:45, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fuck you

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