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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Even the one "grudging keep" concedes that sources are lacking. Can be recreated if and when they are found. Sandstein 08:12, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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declined at draft and moved by creator to main space, no in-depth coverage in independent sources, fails WP:GNG Theroadislong (talk) 16:29, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Article's creator has blanked the page. Theroadislong (talk) 18:52, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Changed to draftify, see below. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 09:13, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ad the missing 3 non-fiction books. Please give me the time! So thanks!--YvesMe (talk) 11:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Container for advertising weblinks for a webshop. Delete. --Brotfried (talk) 11:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you verify it again please, Brotfried - the links are all ok! Thanks! YvesMe (talk) 15:40, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There*re now 5 non-fiction books listed, published in another publishing house. YvesMe (talk) 07:59, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Collapse inappropriate use of Third Opinion response template by party to the dispute. Will AGF that poster was seeking a 3O by doing this, but 3O's are not available in this manne; moreover, per the Dispute Resolution Policy 3O's are not available at all for disputes arising out of deletion discussions. - TransporterMan (TALK) 22:01, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am responding to a third opinion request for this page. I have made no previous edits on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roman Retzbach and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. The third opinion process is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. YvesMe (talk) 08:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Proof of the 4 non-fiction books by public libraries

The books are published and can be found in various universities and libraries, e.g. Württembergische Landesbibliothek

https://wlb.ibs-bw.de/aDISWeb/app?service=direct/0/Home/$DirectLink&sp=SOPAC00&sp=SAKSWB-IdNr1610053966 https://wlb.ibs-bw.de/aDISWeb/app?service=direct/0/Home/$DirectLink&sp=SOPAC00&sp=SAKSWB-IdNr1627975527 https://wlb.ibs-bw.de/aDISWeb/app?service=direct/0/Home/$DirectLink&sp=SOPAC00&sp=SAKSWB-IdNr571624960 https://wlb.ibs-bw.de/aDISWeb/app?service=direct/0/Home/$DirectLink&sp=SOPAC00&sp=SAKSWB-IdNr1623742684 YvesMe (talk) 15:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Proposal

I'm a student in education and beginning biographer. I've also a German mentor, but unlucky no English mentor. Can we put please the article again to draft, after I understand it is not ready? I was working in a draft and wanted only to do a test. I put the article again to draft, but then it was put back. So why we can't agree I work again on the article and take time, and then I think it is ready, I inform you (all) before publishing again. I see and learned now how to work here and got my hard lection as tough training to accept your work and do it next time better.YvesMe (talk) 08:49, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Draftify, with the provision that the article will go through Articles for Creation before moving to mainspace. Notability has not been demonstrated (and I remain skeptical), but it is plausible, and there is an editor who is willing to work on the article. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 09:13, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/draftify: I am concerned that this article appears to have been created at the behest of a World Future Society to place biographies of their principal members here, also at the extent of collusive involvement of the subject in the placing of this article (as evidenced in the text on the subject's website, giving permission to a specific editor here to use the copyright material, which is far from a CC-by-SA license) and in the use of processes here (RfC, Dispute Resolution) to attempt to defeat this ongoing AfD, also consuming yet more volunteer effort. The present article is effectively a CV with list of publications which does not in itself confer notability, a notability which I am not seeing demonstrated in sources. All of these factors would lead me to propose its deletion. However, if there is a growing consensus for this to be returned to draft, then I think it should be the former attributed version currently at User:YvesMe/Roman_Retzbach rather than the mainspace instance, and it should immediately be shorn of the WP:COPYVIO content replicated from the subject's website, before further development towards any future second pass through AfC. I am also concerned that despite all that has been said, I am still not seeing a clear disclosure declaration of the involvement of the editor who put this in mainspace and those in the World Future Society? AllyD (talk) 10:38, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! YvesMe (talk) 14:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Proposal

So put an index lock on the side so that the deletion problem is solved.YvesMe (talk) 14:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.