Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sabrina Dhowre Elba

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:06, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sabrina Dhowre Elba

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Virtually all the coverage of her is about her being his wife, or the relationship between the two, which would not have been covered if it weren't for his stardom. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. The only in-depth piece on her is the Cosmo puff piece written about her because, you guessed it, she is Idris' wife. Fails WP:GNG on her own. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:32, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Even with the refs given in the article, she's always mentioned in an article about Idris, nothing about her. Only article about her is when she confirms to CNN that Idris tested positive for Covid, hardly GNG worthy. Oaktree b (talk) 14:33, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Somalia, and Canada. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:57, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. WP:NOTINHERITED links to an essay...about arguments to avoid at AFD. Nobody has that argument that her notability is inherited, so I think this is an unhelpful way to frame the discussion. It is natural that articles mention her more famous partner, but we should not be swayed by that, we should just focus if there is significant coverage about her. Most sources about Brandon Lee also mention his father, but that doesn't make him not notable. I need to assess future but she is known for more than being someone's wife. She is a model, an actor, a UN Goodwill Ambassador, the co-founder of a cosmetics company, and the co-executive producer of an upcoming Anime series.

CT55555(talk) 17:59, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the argument that should not be used, as per the link, is the affirmative argument, "Notability is inherited". Reading down through the section it states, "The fact of having a famous relative is not, in and of itself, sufficient to justify an independent article. Individuals in close, personal relationships with famous people (including politicians) can have an independent article even if they are known solely for such a relationship, but only if they pass WP:GNG." This clearly states that guideline that when someone is only famous for who they are married to (with the exception of certain classes of folks, e.g. "First Ladies"), then the person must pass GNG on their own. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:14, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My point is: nobody has argued that she is notable for her husband. This is a straw man argument. I think we agree that WP:GNG is what matters here, not that essay. CT55555(talk) 18:18, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And my point was I wasn't refuting that argument, merely stating that the only sourcing is because of who she's married to. Not a straw man argument at all. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:34, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Oaktree B. 2001:569:74E3:4000:45BE:8C5F:EE1B:95E3 (talk) 01:42, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per users above. Her whole notability seems tied directly to her marriage. But she is already covered in her husband's page. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 06:16, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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