Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sascha Vogt

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Sandstein 09:25, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sascha Vogt

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WP:BLP, referenced solely to a primary source profile on the self-published website of his own political party rather than any evidence of reliable source coverage in real media, of a person notable only as a former chairperson of a political party's youth chapter. This is not an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL just because he exists, but would require him to pass WP:GNG on depth of media coverage. Bearcat (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - initial issues have since been resolved. ^{19:47, 24 May 2019 (UTC)} ~~Delete~~ - ~~DRAFTIFY~~ and let it incubate ^{20:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)} fails GNG. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 05:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The biography is a stub, but the claim that the only notability notability comes through his chairmanship of the youth chapter isn't true. He's still today a member of the board of the SPD (Parteivorstand) on the national level, which happens to be one of the ruling parties federal level in Germany.

Additionally, there are plenty of news articles that talk about him. I added six links to mainstream media sources but it would be easy to add more. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 14:17, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have to use references to support content, not just factoids in the infobox, before they actually constitute support for notability. Bearcat (talk) 15:52, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearcat: What existing Wikipedia policy rules that what's in the infobox isn't content?

The policy says "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". The election of a new JUSO chairperson is an event that receives "significant coverage in reliable sources". The sources I linked indicate so. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:46, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A single statement that the person exists, paired with an infobox but no substantive body text, is not a proper Wikipedia article. Articles need to be substantive to have any encyclopedic value. Bearcat (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat - perhaps a move to DRAFT would work? That will give the article creator time to actually make it a WP article with proper sourcing. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 16:57, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. at this point, there are 4 major articles from 4 major german news sources,. That's enough. DGG ( talk ) 06:18, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this refbombed blurb of triviality. Refund when actual notability happens. Trillfendi (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Move to draft - if there are other noteworthy facts about him that can be properly sourced, let's see them and then we can reconsider. greenrd (talk) 19:14, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - issues have since been fixed. Subject meets GNG based on the updates and the German WIKI. Lubbad85 (☎) 12:25, 25 May 2019 (UTC) Move to draft space per suggestiong by User:Atsme Subject may be notable but the article is a stub and I cannot be bothered to work on it. The references should be formatted properly and the article developed. Lubbad85 (☎) 16:54, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Subject has a page on the German Wiki (which has a high bar for inclusion). Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 13:04, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
comment perhaps Stefka Bulgaria you can use the Herman wiki to improve this article. Lubbad85 (☎) 02:26, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I moved some information from the German wiki to the article. You can all decide if that's enough or it needs more. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 21:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Well sourced NOW. Meets WP:GNG and WP:Sigcov No longer the article it was when the AFD was floated. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:01, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.