Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sausage bread

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. MBisanz ^talk 02:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sausage bread

I tried to prod this but someone removed it. A completely unreferenced short stub likely consisting of mostly original research. Plenty of Google hits for the phrase "sausage bread" but how many refer to what is described in this article? Mike R (talk) 19:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete'~~ Let me get this right-- you take pizza dough, sausage, Mozzarella cheese, and, if you want other ingredients like mushrooms, onions, etc.; you bake it in the oven at 350°, for 25 minutes; and you eat it? I think that just described what we call a "pizza". Mandsford (talk) 20:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 21:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Mgm. ~~Delete~~ for lack of legs to stand on. And 350 degrees--that seems a bit cold. Drmies (talk) 21:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete it also sounds very much like a Calzone. Redirect there, at best. Geoff ^T ^C 02:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When this was at Proposed Deletion, I went looking for sources. I found several recipes for sausage bread. Several of them did not match what is described in this article, and none of them actually said anything concrete about what they were describing other than giving its ingredients. Pages 508–509 of ISBN 9781558322608, to pick one example, make no mention of pizza dough, or of pizza at all. And pages 198–199 of ISBN 9780299179847, whilst mentioning piza dough and mozzarella cheese, just give a recipe and nothing else. No source even confirms the article's claim that this is American. Uncle G (talk) 03:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So much work for nothing. Did you work up an appetite at least? Drmies (talk) 03:49, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect My first thought when I read the title was that the article was about Sausage rolls. Seems a reasonable redirect. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the redirect suggestions by MgM (sausage roll) and Glane23 (calzone), and UncleG's search that turns up other varieties of combining sausage and bread. I hadn't even considered sausage biscuit and sausage sandwich, and then there's the Polish sausage that many people won't eat without a hot dog bun. Since people are likely to type in "sausage bread" to look for a wide variety of things, maybe this should be a disambiguation page of some sort. Mandsford (talk) 13:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What the article describes is closer to a sausage roll, and it might well be a better redirect--though I wonder if Mgm didn't have a saucijzenbroodje from the HEMA in mind. Drmies (talk) 15:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and expand. There seem to be a wide variety of closely related recipes out there (and some not so closely related, for instance the Cajun variety described here is apparently entirely different). I don't think we should eliminate sources just because what they describe is slightly different, rather we should perhaps expand the article to encompass all the variations. There are a lot out there, too: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]. JulesH (talk) 16:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent research, and Keep. All those sources confirm what we're saying-- there are lots of different forms of "sausage bread" -- biscuits, bread machine loaf, the bread ring, pizza (i.e., sausage on top), calzone (sausage inside), etc. Remember, the original article was simply about one way of combining the two items. Clearly, an article can refer to a wide variety of forms for these two ingredients. Mandsford (talk) 02:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would one of you left wingers mind accessing the NY Times archives so we can read these articles [10], [11] on sausage bread? This is a big-time keep. I've never had sausage bread, but it sounds like just the thing, and thankfully there are numerous sources establishing its notability. Oh and I added a recipe for the Jan. 20 NY Times to the article. Their version is a bit high fallutin, but it will have to do. A merge is a reasonable proposition after we keep, expand, improve, and figure out just what we've got.ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and expand. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, throw in some yeast, bake a little longer, this article has room to grow. Mandsford (talk) 02:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Comment This is not a "pizza". Maybe this is just a variety of Pigs in a blanket, a very traditional UK Christmas food ?
Keep. Term is notable and many sources are available for expanding the page. --Jack-A-Roe (talk) 07:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.