Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schön Properties (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. No agreement on whether the sources meet notability guidelines. (non-admin closure) ––FormalDude talk 06:42, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Schön Properties

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Non-notable company, fails WP:NCORP. Article references amount to trivial coverage only and WP:BEFORE does not reveal any WP:SIGCOV. Article created by a WP:SOCK, heavily edited by socks, previous AfD was a sock party. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 23:55, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 23:55, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Lacks in-depth coverage to meet WP:NCORP. PS a "sock party" sounds like fun! MrsSnoozyTurtle 02:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Singapore and United Arab Emirates. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 06:41, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete,not notable, Alex-h (talk) 15:49, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This is a far from favourable article about a company and its problems. The best-founded keep opinion in the 2018 AfD was that by feminist: not so much the 2017 interview with the COO or the coverage of their sponsorship of a cricket team, as the seizure of assets and funds in 2018 (see also August 2021 coverage here). While a firm running into problems is not inherently notable, it would be good to see this addressed in respect of the present re-nomination? AllyD (talk) 09:51, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- The acquisition of the Multan Sultans franchise (and subsequent default) is trivial coverage from the perspective of establishing notability for the company. The investor displeasure and asset seizures fails WP:ILLCON. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 11:04, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am leaning keep. Just a few points, this is in fact the third AfD for this article Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Schon_Properties was also for this article prior to the article being moved. In my search I found the following [1] [2] [3] [4] I think these are more than just trivial coverage Neither User:The Donkey King nor User:Feminist were socks. One of the accounts was a sock, but no sock-party in the previous afd. KSAWikipedian (talk) 16:46, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Feminist (talk · contribs) was the only non-sock. By the way, are you the creator of this article? SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 22:53, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - the coverage appears reliable and independent, and suggests a fairly large real estate company. Their development troubles continue to get coverage, as recently as March [[5]]. They are part of a larger Schon Group [[6]], headed up by a billionaire owner who also seems notable [[7]], so perhaps this could be fleshed out and a few redirects added to bolster this. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:44, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is a business operating in the UAE and Pakistan. While there is a relative paucity of sources in English, neither UAE nor Pakistan are English-speaking and there is not a doubt in my mind that there are sources in Arabic in those countries. Not your siblings' deletionist (talk) 21:16, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are many news articles to show that the company meets our guidelines for inclusion. Lightburst (talk) 02:26, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.