Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Semmalar Annam

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Semmalar Annam

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A quick Google search reveals that this actress may or may not be notable. It is clear that she has no large roles post 2021. Most of her sources are about her role in Ammani which from the way it is credited looks like a supporting/minor role. Not sure how much screen time, she had but it can be considered a level below supporting and above minor.

Her actual supporting/lead roles are in Maadathy and Mmmmm while she had a lead role in Sennai (no article). The roles that she likes to take up are village/dalit roles and the confirmation of her roles can show her notability. She also played a supporting role in Vadham. While her speaking out against the casting couch against dark skinned actresses is laudable, it is also the reason why she could fail WP:NACTOR. She stars in several other commercial films however in very minor roles. Her role in Kalvan lasted a few seconds (no dialogue) and hence original research as many of her roles may be. Other roles that seem minor include "Housewife in Prabhavathy's documentary", "Mother of kidnapped child", "Kid's mother", "Einar clan member" (likely no dialogues), "Cancer-affected girl's mother" and "District Forest Officer".

She is credited second in Thunikaram but the reviewer mentions how [1] Though Semmalar Annam doesn't have much scope to perform, she does a decent job in the given time Her name is not mentioned in the review of Kattumaram and there are no sources for The Tremor. Since the other roles don't add any notability and the fact that she directs short films not feature films, consider the films/series Ammani, Vadham, Sennai, Mmmmm (role name?), and Thunikaram and if her roles are notable or not (main guideline for WP:NACTOR).

Her role in Maadathy is definitely notable: she played the lead character's mother. Semmarlar Annam in a yet another remarkable performance. How long will the mainstream filmmakers ignore her? [2] Sadly, Mmmm has no reviews and Sennai is reviewed by Film Companion (blacklisted) [3] but barely mentions much of her role. A creation of the article Sennai can help her notability [4]. Does Mmmm being sent to Oscars add notability? [5] His role seems more notable (because it's the lead). Vijayan plays a beekeeper while she plays his wife [6]. Her role could be supporting.

Her ommision from mainstream Tamil cinema affects notability greatly as 90% of her films are from there. Her roles were notably removed by editors in Valimai and Bachelor (2021 film) [7] [8], showing how short her roles can be.

Notable roles: (based on screen time)

Year	Film	Role
2019	Maadathy	third to Ajmina Kassim
2021	Sennai	Lead (no article)
2021	Mmmmm	second to I. M. Vijayan

Supporting roles:

Year	Film	Role	Notes
2016	Ammani	credited seventh	subject of multiple sources after the release of the film and none in reviews of the film
2021	Vadham	credited third
2022	Thunikaram	credited second	Despite being credited second, her screen time is less.

None of her other roles are being considered for notability. DareshMohan (talk) 19:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 May 24. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 08:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: DareshMohan (I think you forgot to sign), when we talked earlier, I had completely missed the roles in Maadathy, Vadham, Mmmmm and Thunikaram among other things!!! Stupid me. I focused on Sennai. Sorry. She does seem to meet WP:NACTOR with significant roles in notable productions. Added to minor awards and some coverage (although containing mostly interviews), I was wrong to consider she didn't meet the requirements for actors, I think. Apologies if I made you do all this awesome work. I sincerely apologise for having missed those roles.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, India, and Tamil Nadu. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep and close discussion. I am the nominator. An error occurred at User talk:Mushy Yank#Semmalar Annam where I was hereby motivated to do a redirect via deletion discussion. I had mentioned Maadathy and Mmmmm but at the same time that Mushy Yank edited resulting in an edit conflict. @Mushy Yank: As a compromise, can we make the article neutral, add sources to filmography and expand career section. DareshMohan (talk) 18:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! Will do my best! (consider signing the 1st part of this Afd, btw, so that we can see you are indeed the nominator:D). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:05, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: WP:HEY and WP:SNOW. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable work and achievement and enough coverage on the actress who has made prolific contributions to a field of entertainment. Passes WP:BIO and WP:NACTOR. RangersRus (talk) 13:34, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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