Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SevenHills Hospital

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 12:47, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

SevenHills Hospital

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promotional, to the extent that removing promotion would leave only a directory entry. The references are essentially press releases and notices, and articles by people who work at the hospital. DGG ( talk ) 19:49, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:01, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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delete – most of the sources only mention the hospital in passing, and it fails notability standards for hospitals. Natureium (talk) 20:21, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The Mumbai branch is 1500 beds, making it larger than e.g. Addenbrooke's Hospital. If this was in a Western country it's inconceivable that it wouldn't be notable. Plenty of sources found in a brief English-language Google search e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 --Pontificalibus (talk) 07:48, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article has valid reliable references that meet WP:GNG and the subject itself as chain of many organizations. Simple search also reveals coverage from reliable sources not yet used and perhaps in non English sources more exists. Also I learnt that Hospitals receive near or similar inclusion leverage that schools enjoy due to my experience in CSD and XfD with village clinics, that don't have 1% coverage or significance of this article — Ammarpad (talk) 07:50, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I've edited the article for grammar etc, and I'll try to get back to it later today to take a bash at the content and references. I think that there is enough there to warrant an article. Leschnei (talk) 16:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:02, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- all the hallmarks of promotion. Two hospitals is a chain? Gimme a break. What hospital describes the investors? Patients do not confer notability. The list of departments is not notable. Weasel words at every discussion of accreditation. I don't want a hospital that is a member of a club like AHA. Imagine if you doctor told you had a disease like rotavirus? Written by SPA. TNT is my suggestion. Let a qualified editor write a new one. I volunteer. Or Leschnei, who needs to be bold Rhadow (talk) 21:18, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working on it! I just slogged my way through a bunch of articles (including those suggested by Pontificalibus), and I'm going to re-write the article deleting much of the present content. It will take me a little time - I forgot about Thanksgiving. If the decision is to delete, perhaps the article could be moved to draft space and I will continue to work on it. Leschnei (talk) 00:57, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note I've largely re-written the article using (mostly) newspaper articles. It's less promotional and, hopefully, its notability is more established. Any further trimming welcome. Leschnei (talk) 22:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll clean up the reference errors in a bit. Leschnei (talk) 22:03, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Leschnei (talk) 22:59, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:35, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- I am still struggling with the characterization of this hospital holding company as a chain. By the WP definition, the two locations would share "central management, and usually have standardized business methods and practices." One campus is accredited by JCI, the other not. That doesn't sound like standardized business methods and practices to me.
I would not say the article is factual yet. At no time between 2010 and 20 November 2017 [1] has the Mumbai campus ever had more than 300 beds operational. That's a far cry from the "largest hospital in Asia with 1,500 beds." Rhadow (talk) 00:27, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You make good points. I have removed the words chain and like. It might be most accurate to say that it is 2 hospitals opened by Dr. Maganti, but I can't find any reliable sources for the first hospital - I don't know if Maganti opened that hospital or had assumed control at a later date.

I qualified the size claim in the header. The exact number of operational beds is hard to pin down. For example, in 2013, it appears that an additional 300 beds were added. So I simply added that in 2017, there are 300 beds. If you'd like it stated more forcefully, perhaps you could be bold and do it. Leschnei (talk) 13:34, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.