Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheikh Rashid bin Humaid Al Nuaimi IV

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The result was delete. There was consensus to delete before the relist, and the only argument since has been rebutted convincingly. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sheikh Rashid bin Humaid Al Nuaimi IV

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One of the younger sons of Humaid bin Rashid Al Nuaimi III, he is not the crown prince. Notability is not inherited. Lacks significant coverage. Mvqr (talk) 17:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Football, and United Arab Emirates. Mvqr (talk) 17:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. Redirecting to the father would also be an acceptable option in my mind. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:47, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:29, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 19:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:01, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my standards for minor royalty. I would not oppose a redirect. Bearian (talk) 21:00, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting after reverting my closure after an appeal.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:04, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - That he's royalty isn't relevant here. As head of the President of the Emirates Football Association, he has plenty of in-depth coverage, such as ~~[1] and~~ [2]. I haven't checked, but as the head of the Municipality and Planning Department in Ajman, I'd also expect coverage. Ping User:GiantSnowman. Also, there's no indication that a BEFORE was done. Nfitz (talk) 17:56, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A BEFORE most certainly was performed, he was listed to begin with under football to begin with due to his role in the football association, and his role in Ajman's politics is minor, with Ajman being the smallest emirate in the UAE. There is barely any coverage in English. The two Arabic sources you bring are primary, not independent, and not in depth. The first one, [3] in alkhaleej is about a speech by his oldest brother Crown Prince Sheikh Ammar bin Humaid Al Nuaimi which mentions Rashid was present at the event. The second, is a copy of his speech in koora.com saying that the UAE President's Cup is "dear to everyone". --Mvqr (talk) 13:19, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is no relevance to there being English coverage. You misunderstand the criteria. If you didn't do any BEFORE in Arabic, it's a BEFORE failure. Nfitz (talk) 16:51, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But I did check Arabic sources. If there is a failure here, Nfitz, it is you presenting alkhaleej as "in-depth coverage" above whilst it is almost entirely about his oldest brother (the crown prince) and only mentions him as being present at the speech by his brother. --Mvqr (talk) 17:18, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see the issue. All these similarly named and related Sheikhs. Yes, the notability of that one is not there; I'll strike it. The second though, is certainly not a copy of his speech! Yes, it describes the speech, with some quotes. Nfitz (talk) 01:01, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, another Arabic tidbit I checked before nominating was the Arabic Wikipedia, which doesn't have an entry on Rashid. I also checked for variant spellings in his father's Arabic page which lists Rashid. On the Arabic Wikipedia there is an entry for his father and oldest brother only, not the younger brothers who hold mid-level administrative positions.--Mvqr (talk) 17:24, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Based on Google translate, neither of the sources above are significant. Giant Snowman 19:08, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, User:GiantSnowman, I messed up with the first one above. There's a lot of other coverage, such as [4] and very in-depth shorter pieces such as [5]. Nfitz (talk) 01:20, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
First source reads like a press release, second is OK but soo short. Giant Snowman 18:48, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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