Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefan Stojanović (footballer born 1992)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. j⚛e deckertalk 06:26, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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Article's subject fails to meet WP:GNG. A search on GoogleNews produces no hits, a regular Google search produces only links to Facebook, Twitter, IMDb, etc. The Transfermarkt link is a trivial listing of a name and statistics, not evidence of notability, as is the SoccerWay citation. Yes, he played at the levels which WP:NSPORTS suggests would qualify him for notability, but upon further inspection, I do not see this being met in real terms, and WP:NSPORTS remains subordinate to WP:GNG. I have verified that there are no articles on him in either the Serbian or Serbo-Croatian Wikipedias. There may be sources somewhere in one of these languages-- can anyone identify and provide links to some of these which offer any non-trivial coverage (i.e., more than just a name and some statistics)? KDS4444Talk 05:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: If reliable sources supporting the subject's notability cannot be found, an article cannot be sustained. Ravenswing 11:38, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep - Sources indicate that the individual has played in a fully professional league and so passes WP:NFOOTY. Article needs expanding not deleting. Fenix down (talk) 11:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - numerous appearances in a fully-professional league, as confirmed by reliable sources, so this player meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Needs improving, not deleting, to bring in line with WP:GNG. Nomination smacks of WP:POINT.
GiantSnowman 17:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - It was my understanding that the policies outlined in WP:NFOOTY and WP:NFOOTBALL, both under the heading of WP:NSPORTS, were only intended as useful guidelines, rules of thumb, and that WP:GNG still had to be met to justify a full article. This article is coming up on almost a full year with no meaningful citations, and I was able to find no evidence of this individual showing promise of becoming notable in the future. As a permanent WP:SUBSTUB, then, it appeared to fall in the category of deletable articles. Please clarify for me. Thanks. KDS4444Talk 21:40, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Appears to meet WP:NFOOTBALL. Mice never shop (talk) 00:07, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Did you even read what was written above? You have pasted this same comment, "Appears to meet WP:NFOOTBALL", on a number of deletion nomination pages, seemingly without having done any research on the subject or reading the text of those who commented before you. Whether or not mice shop, they are expected to do at least the polite business of the latter before adding in a !vote on a nomination. If you agree that GNG supersedes NFOOTBALL, then how can you be voting !Keep? And if you do not agree, please explain so I can understand your position better. Thank you. KDS4444Talk 04:18, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Article very clearly meets WP:FOOTY. Why would someone be wasting everyone's time with this? I'm not sure the point of doing a Google News search to prove anything, given that that it only lists articles from the last few weeks (I'm not sure it even stretches back to when his team last played!); there's no shortages of less recent articles such as [1] [2]. Nfitz (talk) 18:08, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, technically those are references. I have looked at both: neither has an author's name associated with it, and neither does more than say that the subject scored a goal somewhere (how would these be incorporated into the article?). Because they are in Serbian I can't tell if they are reliable sources or not, but I understand that this does not preclude them from being considered for notability purposes. I've already explained that WP:NFOOTY and WP:NFOOTBALL do not apply at this point, please justify a "keep" vote on other grounds. KDS4444Talk 06:24, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I'm having trouble finding significant coverage in reliable sources, in large part because there is another more accomplished footballer with the same name who was born in 1988 (and played for BSK Borča). I can find routine coverage in match reports for the one born in 1992, but nothing significant. I'm not sure this is reason enough to delete, but we certainly need help from an editor with more profeciency in Serbian. Jogurney (talk) 15:07, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
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