Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steven Parent

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The result was merge to Charles Manson. Or, at editorial discretion, to a new article to be created. Stifle (talk) 10:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Parent

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Simply put, this biography of a crime victim seems to fail WP:VICTIM ("The victim... had a large role within a well-documented historic event. The historic significance is indicated by persistent coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources that devote significant attention to the individual's role"). All sources I see mention him in passing; if he hasn't been killed by Manson, his life up to that point wouldn't make her notable. Per said policy ("A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person.") the one-two relevant sentences should be merged to Charles_Manson#Tate_murders if the facts aren't there already (now, the Tate murders article should likely be split off into a subarticle, but that's another issue). See related AfDs at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abigail Folger and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Sebring. Pinging participants of the former: @Rhododendrites, MelanieN, Johnpacklambert, Cec2020, Bearian, and Lankiveil: _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:51, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, either to the Manson article or to a yet-to-be-written Tate murders article. See also related discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wojciech Frykowski. --MelanieN (talk) 23:05, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'd go for a keep - based on the fact that, in his death, his parents raised an important issue: class consciousness. Bearian (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is that in the article? --MelanieN (talk) 22:58, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In these related AfDs, several people have suggested that a merge to a new article Tate murders would be better than a merge to Charles Manson. See Talk:Charles Manson#Split off Tate murders? to discuss this idea. MelanieN (talk) 23:15, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge for now. I would probably support a seperate article on the Tate Murders, but that can be done no matter what we decided here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:22, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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