Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Street dogs in Chennai
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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This article appears to be a 2014 WP:CONTENTFORK from Blue Cross of India, which is the only other article that links to this one. The vast majority of this article is a close paraphrase of a single op-ed (which is non-RS) posted in The Hindu Times [1] and is possibly even a WP:COPYVIO, and that content is mostly about Blue Cross of India and is also covered in their article. I have already merged put the relevant generic parts about stray dogs into Street dog#India. Normal Op (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Normal Op (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Normal Op (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. WP:NOTNEWS (what Wikipedia is not) and fails GNG. William Harristalk 07:56, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep/merge The nomination states that content has been merged and so deletion is not appropriate -- see WP:MAD. The page as it stands seems quite interesting and there seems to be more coverage out there such as this. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:58, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: You have misunderstood the meaning of the word "merge" as I used it above. I will clarify. I meant that anything of value from Street dogs in Chennai has been added to Street dogs#India (by me); the rest of Street dogs in Chennai is already in Blue Cross of India (verified by me), so very little if any "merging" (as we know it in Wikipedia) is needed, therefore what is left of Street dogs in Chennai can be deleted, especially since only one article points to it (Blue Cross of India), obviating any need for a continuing redirect. Read Talk:Street dogs in Chennai#Needs organization for earlier discussion about this article. Normal Op (talk) 15:19, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think I understand Normal Op just fine. They have merged content from the page in question and so deletion is inappropriate. Whether further merger is to be done, is not the issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Facepalm OMG, there's a technical definition of merge and a colloquial (common usage) meaning. What I meant... last try... is that I took some of the "concepts" and made an edit to Street dog#India, thusly [2]. I did NOT copy anything from Street dogs in Chennai. I am never going to use the word "merge" again. Self-trout Normal Op (talk) 18:50, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think I understand Normal Op just fine. They have merged content from the page in question and so deletion is inappropriate. Whether further merger is to be done, is not the issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: You have misunderstood the meaning of the word "merge" as I used it above. I will clarify. I meant that anything of value from Street dogs in Chennai has been added to Street dogs#India (by me); the rest of Street dogs in Chennai is already in Blue Cross of India (verified by me), so very little if any "merging" (as we know it in Wikipedia) is needed, therefore what is left of Street dogs in Chennai can be deleted, especially since only one article points to it (Blue Cross of India), obviating any need for a continuing redirect. Read Talk:Street dogs in Chennai#Needs organization for earlier discussion about this article. Normal Op (talk) 15:19, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Andrew, with the terminology sorted out, what is your position now, please? William Harristalk 10:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- My position is unchanged. The title "street dogs in Chennai" is quite clear and helpful when searching for information about this issue. The title "Blue Cross of India" is not so helpful because you have to be already familiar with this organisation and its title to understand its relevance. Deletion of the street dog title, turning it into a red link would therefore be unhelpful to our readership and so should not be done. Deletion of the page's edit history would likewise be unhelpful to people wanting to follow the history of our coverage. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:38, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying your position. William Harristalk 08:56, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- My position is unchanged. The title "street dogs in Chennai" is quite clear and helpful when searching for information about this issue. The title "Blue Cross of India" is not so helpful because you have to be already familiar with this organisation and its title to understand its relevance. Deletion of the street dog title, turning it into a red link would therefore be unhelpful to our readership and so should not be done. Deletion of the page's edit history would likewise be unhelpful to people wanting to follow the history of our coverage. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:38, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- Andrew, with the terminology sorted out, what is your position now, please? William Harristalk 10:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: If all the useful content is already in other articles, then there is no purpose to keeping this one. Nor is it a useful redirect target: someone typing in "Street dogs ..." will already find the main article, first. Ravenswing 02:48, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. If you have visited or lived in India then you will know that every Zilla Parishad, Palli, village and township has its collection of street dogs, many of which are infirm, some of which have their vulva's hanging out and the list could go on. Chennai is no different to Bengaluru, Hosket, Kodaikanal, Old Delhi, Simla, Jaipur, Lucknow, and places like this. The OpEd referred to above fairly much forms the substance of paraphrasing for this article. Article really has no notability. Cows, and what corporations are doing for cows, yes. Street dogs, no. Whiteguru (talk) 08:29, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The useful content of this article is already in other ones and people can find it by doing a search. So, this is useless fork. Plus, as the voter above me says, there's nothing particularly special about street dogs in this location compared to other places in India and it would be weird to have a "street dogs of whatever" article for every place in India. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - nothing of value worth keeping Spiderone 09:28, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The useful content already exists at Blue Cross of India. Sanjoydey33 (talk) 16:17, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.