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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 04:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suzanne Langlois

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Questionable notability that does not appear to be established with WP:RS Amigao (talk) 01:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

She is an important figure in St. Louis, both as founder of Kaldi's and her work at Meds and Food for Kids. M'Laurine (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources are needed for that claim. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:50, 22 January 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Here are some sources, including podcast interviews and stories in several newspapers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoRqyIZH_4k (The Seed - the Start-up Journey Episode 20)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmM2qClxudU (The Influential Non-profit - Episode 37)
https://www.voxmagazine.com/news/kaldis-coffee-mu-education-expansion/article_cbcb86d4-062a-11ea-9609-ff8bddb79a81.html
https://www.columbiamissourian.com/news/local/kaldis-makes-four-coffee-shops-near-the-corner-of-ninth-and-cherry-streets/article_4122ea2d-28f9-5bd9-847c-fe469738e061.html
https://www.stltoday.com/life-entertainment/local/food-drink/dining/coffee-is-good-with---and-in---muffins-special-request-bakers-at/article_e83b2d46-f6a5-55e7-9a27-0f17f94e41f4.html
https://urnex.com/blog/kaldis-is-raising-the-coffee-game-in-americas-heartland
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/best-of/2000/food-and-drink/best-place-to-buy-coffee-2507925
https://ethicalstl.org/docs/EthicsInActionAward/ParticiaWolff.pdf
https://newterritorymag.com/about/board/ M'Laurine (talk) 22:49, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Commercial adspam of only local interest. If this BIO has been edited by a paid editor the subject should ask for their money back. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC).[reply]
    I think we must agree to disagree. In my opinion, being a businesswoman sought out by multiple newspapers and bloggers for interviews, and later becoming CEO of an organization that has treated 800,000 Haitian children for malnutrition, amounts to cultural significance. Xxanthippe clearly disagrees. I suggest we let others weigh in.
    I would also request that you refrain from ad hominem attacks. You may disagree with me for believing that various St. Louisians merit Wikipedia pages, but my motivation is informational, not financial. Attacking the poster serves just to maintain the status quo of articles mainly about entertainers, university professors and athletes. M'Laurine (talk) 16:32, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - based on sources in the article, listed here, and my online search, there does not appear to be significant independent, reliable, and secondary coverage to support WP:BASIC/WP:GNG notability. For example, the source used to support the article's claim that Langlois "has been credited for changing the coffee landscape in St. Louis" (URNEX), according to its About Us page, is a company that sells coffee-related products and offers services to coffee shop owners; its blog post source about Kaldi's includes "Josh Ferguson views Urnex less as just a product manufacturer and more as a trusted advisor in all things coffee equipment" etc - this appears to be an advertisement that lacks independence. The 2019 Vox Magazine source focuses on Josh Ferguson, Tricia Zimmer Ferguson, and Kaldi's, and mentions "In 1994, Howard Lerner and Suzanne Langlois founded Kaldi’s in St. Louis" so this is not significant coverage. The 2008 Columbia Missourian source is three lines, announcing a new Kaldi's location, so is not significant or secondary coverage of Langlois. The 2009 St Louis Dispatch source is mostly based on quotes from Langlois, lists Kaldi's locations and includes a muffins recipe, which is not significant, independent, secondary coverage of Langlois. There is also an event announcement that is not significant coverage. There is a post from the Kaldi's website, which is not independent. There is also a high school student newspaper I am not able to access, but this type of source is not strong support for notability. There is a 1994 St. Louis Dispatch source noting a local journalism award for Langlois, which is not significant support for notability. There is also a 2017 Feast magazine recognition for Kaldi's, which is not significant support for notability. Another source is the New Territory Magazine About page, which has a brief profile of Langlois, which is not independent or secondary support for notability. This source review is not saying Langlois has not had a successful career or diminishing the importance of her nonprofit career; there are various reasons why the notability guidelines have us looking for certain types of coverage, and it does not appear that we have those types of sources at this time. Beccaynr (talk) 22:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - She is a successful businessperson who has accomplished various things but does not meet the requirements of WP:N. Llajwa (talk) 21:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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