Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim O'Dwyer

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sango 123 23:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tim O'Dwyer

Blatant copyvio[1] and non-notable. I would have used the speedy delete tag, but one of the requirements (it seems) is that it was made in the past 48 hours... maybe I'm just confused, but here's the AfD. EVula 02:46, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete (explained below) ~~Keep~~ conditioned on a few things. First, he's notable b/c he composed music played by bands that toured, so he gets in through the back door for composers in WP:MUSIC. Second, I've emailed the webmaster of the source site to try to get permission. Failing that, I will hopefully rewrite it tomorrow night. If neither happens, we will have to delete. Thanks for taking this to AfD where it can get more attention.--Kchase T 03:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as copyvio unless completely rewritten. You are correct that this is not speedy-able but, for future reference, the normal process is to revert to a prior non-infringing version, and if not possible, such as here, to blank the content, add the tag {{copyvio}} ({{copyvio|url=insert URL}}--~~~~), and list the article at today's WP:CP listing.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:21, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep — if and only if it is rewritten Betacommand 05:36, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per Fuhghettaboutit. It's blatant copyvio (even admittedly!) as far back as its first version. Honestly, I'd actually suggest withdrawing the nomination and following the standard copyright problems procedure. ~~If the article's rewritten, though, he seems to pass WP:MUSIC and so the article should be kept.~~ Based on Kchase's research, I don't think he passes WP:MUSIC, so this would be a delete for non-notable anyway. --FreelanceWizard 09:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep per Kchase. If it isn't COMPLETELY copyedited by the close of this afd, blank the article to a stub with just the intro line one to say who he is. I already copyedited that line. Contributors can build the article later. --HResearcher 12:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment take a look at the article now that I have copyedited it (The rest that still needs copyediting is on the talk page). --HResearcher 13:02, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak keep~~ is he really notable enough to warrant an article? --HResearcher 13:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought so, but I misread the source. He composed music not as an individual, but as a member of two ensembles (what role he had in those is unknown). The music was then performed in a bunch of places, not performed by a band that toured in all those places (so we have no idea if the bands are notable).--Kchase T 22:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Don't see how subject gets through WP:MUSIC, through the back door or otherwise.--Pathlessdesert 18:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable, at least not yet. --HResearcher 04:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per HResearcher -- Dubc0724 15:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.