Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Kaulitz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Tokio Hotel. Any relevant sourced content can be merged from the history. Sandstein 05:08, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Kaulitz

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Nominated per request of an IP. Their rationale: "zero notability outside of the band, if you remove the fancruft from the article you're only left with information about the band; someone mentioned that the singer has an article so Tom should too -- even if they're identical twins they don't share the same notability." Neutral as nominator. Rehevkor ✉ 21:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/redirect (I'm the mentioned IP) I was going by the WP:MUSIC guideline, "Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases." --194.150.65.40 (talk) 21:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (same person^) I think the article was written by a foreigner, I started to fix it but gave up pretty quick. It's hopeless. --194.150.65.9 (talk) 10:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Firsfron of Ronchester 04:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. Google suggests at least a modicum of notability for this person (besides the Viagra incident). The article is pretty bad, no doubt about it, but AfD is not for cleanup. Find and add the sources. Drmies (talk) 04:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge (a little) to Tokio Hotel. It is not true that he and his brother have the same level of notability just because they're twins in the same band. His brother Bill has been covered as a stand-alone celebrity, but Tom hasn't. Any notable info about Tom's life can be covered at the band's article. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:42, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am normally against removing articles with a large number of interwiki links. Strangely I noticed an absence of a de-wiki article though, which led me to the following discussion 5-6 years ago Personal notability might have changed since si I can't decide between keep and merge, but definetly not delete. Agathoclea (talk) 07:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Firsfron of Ronchester 13:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Redirect and feel free to merge any verifiable content to the band's article. The Google search above demonstrates some coverage of this individual but I don't see any evidence that he's notable independent of the band and/or the Viagra incident. Close call, though. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 13:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - per Ginsengbomb. --Anthem of joy (talk) 16:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect, can always visit this later if more interesting things can be said (and so, of course, do not delete the history). —Кузьма^討論 08:48, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.