Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toronto Transit Commission bus fleet

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. needs more sources is the definition of non-notable. if you get sources let me know. Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Toronto Transit Commission bus fleet

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Excessive amount of trivia that belongs on a bus enthusiasts fan site. WP:FANCRUFT WP:NOTTRIVIA Ajf773 (talk) 09:41, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Ajf773 (talk) 09:41, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Ajf773 (talk) 09:41, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It needs more sources and add some more context for each bus series, just like Toronto streetcar system rolling stock and Toronto subway rolling stock. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 13:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm not sure I'd call encyclopedic information about buses something that needs to be on a "fan site".70.27.132.69 (talk) 03:30, 16 January 2018 (UTC) — 70.27.132.69 (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and AFD. Ajf773 (talk) 03:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
By any reasonable standard this level of detail belongs on a transit fan site, and a much reduced summary merged back to the main article. But standards here have declined a lot, so I'm sure this will be kept and will gradually fester into an open sore of incomplete and outdated information when whoever was keeping track of individual buses loses interest or whatever. Mangoe (talk) 11:59, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A brief summary of the buses in the current and past fleets (by types, years and ranges of fleet nos.) is the most that is potentially worthwhile to include in table form on Wikipedia (and can be merged into the main article), and even that information should cite reliable sources (which excludes forums, as noted under WP:USERGENERATED). Lists like this one – detailing every individual bus that is, or no longer is, in service – contain far too much detail for Wikipedia. The place for that kind of detail are sites like the Canadian Public Transit Discussion Board, which are maintained by and for transit fans and which don't need to cite sources. Wikipedia has a much broader audience and has higher standards regarding sourcing. The other similarly detailed transit fleet lists on Wikipedia should also be deleted. Bus fans (of which I am one) can find that info. on CPTDB, among other places. – SJ Morg (talk) 10:29, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.