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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Withdrawn by nominator. -DJSasso (talk) 19:07, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Contested PROD. In my opinion fails the spirit of WP:NHOCKEY. This boils down to two main issues. 1) Is the Asia League Ice Hockey a "top professional league" a la NHOCKEY point 1? 2) Does participation in the national team in the IIHF World Championships below the top level (i.e. in Div 1 or below) satisfy NHOCKEY point 6? In my opinion neither of the above constitute notability, and thus this article should be deleted. Ravendrop (talk) 21:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. —DJSasso (talk) 22:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Yes any national team no matter the level does meet WP:NHOCKEY which is why it says senior national team and doesn't say national team in the Championship division and follows the convention that exists in every sport that a national team appearance is notable no matter what. The point being that they are the best ice hockey players in their country. -DJSasso (talk) 22:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:26, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: per DJ. Whether its DIII or the Championship, having played at the World Championships for the senior national team certainly meets NHOCKEY. – Nurmsook! talk... 23:56, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, per above. Patken4 (talk) 00:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This hockey player has played on China's senior national team [1] and therefore meets criteria#6 of NHOCKEY. The article should be renamed Chongwei Wang as Wang is his surname, and his article on the English Wikipedia should follow English (not Chinese) naming conventions. Dolovis (talk) 15:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Just so you are aware per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese) it is actually English naming conventions to list Chinese surnames first. -DJSasso (talk) 16:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I am aware of "Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese)", where it says that "There is an exception for people whose Chinese name is familiar but with English ordering (for example, Wen Ho Lee). In this case, the primary entry should be under the English ordering with a redirect from the Chinese ordering." I think this article meets the exception because the name is listed at Eliteprospects (among others) as 'Chongwei Wang', and so that should be used as the "commonly used name" for the article title. Dolovis (talk) 16:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Except that its the other way around in the leagues English website and in english newspapers and reliable websites. Definitely not a clear cut case that this player is contrary to the norm. In fact doing a websearch for "Chongwei Wang" shows that elite prospects is the only site that lists him that way. -DJSasso (talk) 17:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I am aware of "Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese)", where it says that "There is an exception for people whose Chinese name is familiar but with English ordering (for example, Wen Ho Lee). In this case, the primary entry should be under the English ordering with a redirect from the Chinese ordering." I think this article meets the exception because the name is listed at Eliteprospects (among others) as 'Chongwei Wang', and so that should be used as the "commonly used name" for the article title. Dolovis (talk) 16:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Withdraw. Seems to be a pretty clear consensus that I misinterpreted the meaning of NHOCKEY #6 as only the top level of the world championships. If there is no objections (and as this has been up for 24 hours+) I'll withdraw this nomination. Ravendrop (talk) 19:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.