Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WordPlay T. Jay

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 08:30, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WordPlay T. Jay

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Per WP:ARTIST. Insignificant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Non major awards or Top 100 lists. Comatmebro (talk) 03:36, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:41, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arkansas-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:41, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:41, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I was initially inclined to !vote delete, but two things are giving me pause. WP:NMUSIC #11 counts placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network as a signifier of notability, and this artist had a video at least air on MTV - was it possible it was added to a rotation? Possibly more strongly, #12 counts Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network. This article notes Wordplay’s rise began with a feature on MTV’s RapFix Live and that turned into making Music for the Underdog. Were either of these a "substantial broadcast segment"? I'm having trouble telling right now. I will try to look into further, but if you are able to conclusively answer either of these questions before me, it might settle things. MarginalCost (talk) 13:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Not inclined to believe it aired on MTV; it may have been in the rotation on MTV Jams perhaps (a lesser-viewed sister channel), but by 2009 if you aired a video on MTV, it was likely only in a late night slot, not as a prime attraction. And according to this, it seems like the feature segment was only hosted on the MTV website. Nate • (chatter) 16:55, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeing where in that link it says anything about on air vs. website-only. MarginalCost (talk) 16:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Generally over the last ten years, short feature segments about music have been web-only for MTV overall (it's been a longtime problem where low-wattage artists that have come to AfD have claimed they've been on MTV, only to be a web-only clip very buried on their website). This link about it indeed airing on MTV Jams beginning only in 2013 clearly notes RapFix is 'the popular webseries'. Nate • (chatter) 17:38, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per above discussion. It seems the series was not aired on "a national TV network" when WordPlay would have been featured, if the piece was even "substantial" in the first place. No evidence of placement into rotation. No evidence of significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. MarginalCost (talk) 19:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Nothing to indicate notability, in an article which makes unsubstantiated attempts to suggest significance, such as saying that a song "was huge success" when none of the cited sources says anything remotely suggesting that it did, and nor does any other source I have seen. The fact that one of the sources is a report of the fact that he "starred" in a video promoting one of his own recordings is an indication of how far this article is scraping the barrel in trying to find citations to give an impression of notability. Breaking sticks (talk) 20:47, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above discussion. Deb (talk) 11:39, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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