Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yassir Abdul-Mohsen

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 02:01, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yassir Abdul-Mohsen

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. The claim that he has played for the Iraqi national team is not supported by reliable sources, to say nothing of the fact that the article about the Iraq national football team states that the match in which he allegedly made his debut was not a full international. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:12, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:13, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 15:16, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - International player + called for the world cup qualification match against Jordan next week. it will be Ironic to delete the page then next week recreating it. Mussav (talk) 18:08, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:15, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Query. Mussav, what day is the World Cup qualification match scheduled? These AfD discussions are supposed to remain open for seven days under normal circumstances per standard AfD procedures. That means this AfD should remain open through November 17. If the subject player is scheduled to play two or three days after November 17, it would be entirely appropriate for a reviewing administrator to "relist" this AfD, and effectively extend its deadline for another week. Can you tell us when this match is scheduled? Beyond that, we have to make a decision based on what we know about the player's notability now. As others will point out, Wikipedia does not deal in predicting the future notability of its subjects per WP:CRYSTAL. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:44, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replay - The match against Jordan scheduled to be played on November the 14th. Mussav (talk) 19:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. It appears we will have an answer before this AfD expires in seven days. If the subject plays in the international match against Jordan on the 14th, I will be happy to vote "keep" and I am sure most other editors will too. Please update this AfD after the game on the 14th, and provide a linked source confirming the subject's actual participation in the game. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:45, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Sure will do. Mussav (talk) 22:07, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Update - Yassir didnt play today however Hussam Ibrahim did, so please vote keep for Hussam. Thanks Mussav (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First, thanks for the update. Second, the proposed deletion of Hussam Ibrahim is not actually part of this discussion. Third, please provide a reliable source to confirm your assertions. Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:08, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could please provide me a link for Hussam's discussion? and this is the source from FIFA website [1]. Mussav (talk) 15:17, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

At present, there is no discussion on Hussam Ibrahim. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:27, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:01, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - article is about a footballer who hasn't played in a fully pro league or represented his country at senior level, which means that it fails WP:NFOOTY. Also fails WP:GNG due to lack of coverage in reliable sources. Mentoz86 (talk) 02:28, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Subject not entitled to presumption of notability per WP:NFOOTBALL because he has not yet played in an international match or fully professional league, and coverage to date does not satisfy WP:GNG. My !vote is without prejudice to immediately recreate the article if and when subject plays in an international match. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:29, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment to article creator Mussav: I suggest that you save the text of the article so you may quickly recreate it if and when Yassir finally plays in an international match. Regards, Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:29, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. --Edgars2007 ^{(talk/contribs)} 17:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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