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Category:Yoasobi

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:00, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Yoasobi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only songs and albums subcategories which are already interlinked. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 21:42, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1st-century BC Roman emperors

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 08:23, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:1st-century BC Roman emperors to Category:1st-century BC rulers in Europe

Nominator's rationale: The sole article in here, Augustus, is already listed under Category:1st-century Roman emperors, so this is an unnecessary WP:SMALLCAT. Avilich (talk) 19:59, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The two centuries and their categories are not directly connected to each other. Dimadick (talk) 20:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What hhas that to do with anything? Augustus still belongs to other categories that are under "1st-century BC Romans", so this will cause no damage to his category tree. All this merger will accomplish is to eliminate an intermediate and redundant category that slightly hinders navigation. Avilich (talk) 15:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:37, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, this is by definition a small cat. The most it could ever grow to is two, if one would add Julius Caesar who is not usually defined as emperor.--Mvqr (talk) 16:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Repurpose as Category:1st-century BC Roman rulers to include the members of the First triumvirate and the other two members of the Second triumvirate, also any other Roman dictators of the period. This will need to be provided with an appropriate headnote setting out its scope. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:28, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such category tree, but if you feel like going through the trouble then by all means create them yourself, there's no need to suggest it here of all places. Anyway, Rome had no well-defined rulers before 45 BC, and those after 1 AD are all emperors, so I don't see the point. Avilich (talk) 19:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Repurpose as Category:1st-century BC Roman rulers per Peterkingiron. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:17, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. For the Roman Republic it is too difficult to define when someone was a "ruler", e.g. if you would take it very broadly all consuls would be rulers. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:07, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Probably Marco is right and so his reason given above sounds like a good solution. --Just N. (talk) 22:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete We should not have a 1 person category just to fill out a category tree when the one article is already in another related category and there is no possiblity of expansion. Categories are meant to be useful to naviagation, and having technically accurate but not useful 1 article categories is not at all helpful.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Peat deposits in Russia

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Peatlands without objection to renominate the target (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Peat deposits in Russia to Category:Peatlands in Russia

Nominator's rationale: "deposit" sounds a bit weird nowadays Chidgk1 (talk) 12:03, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge to Category:Peat deposits - only 1 article, already adequately categorised in Category:Swamps of Russia. Oculi (talk) 01:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge per Oculi. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:37, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge per Oculi. --Lenticel ^(talk) 08:38, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'd prefer 'Delete! The nominator Chidgk1 is right. In our times of debating climate shift any category like Category:Peat deposits sounds anachronistic and impossible for our encyclopedia! We are not a stock exchange bulletin. --Just N. (talk) 23:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nominator (or better: delete this whole category branch). --Just N. (talk) 23:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Peat deposits by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Peatlands without objection to renominate the target (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Peat deposits by country to Category:Peatlands by country

Nominator's rationale: "deposits" sounds a bit weird nowadays Chidgk1 (talk) 12:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge to Category:Peat deposits - only 1 subcat. Oculi (talk) 01:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge per Oculi. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:37, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge per Oculi. --Lenticel ^(talk) 08:38, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
'Rename per nominator. Strongly oppose upmerging proposal above. Climate science has proven: Bogs are CO2-fixer, to use them as in former decades just as commercial basic commodity 'peat' is a strong booster for more floods, draughts, storms, refugees. --Just N. (talk) 23:23, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Peat deposits

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Peat deposits to Category:Peatlands

Nominator's rationale: "deposit" sounds a bit weird nowadays Chidgk1 (talk) 11:59, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support but as it stands there are (surprisingly) only 2 articles in the tree so there is no case for any subcats. Oculi (talk) 01:15, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:59, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. As a first step okay, I'd prefer deletion. --Just N. (talk) 23:25, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rugby players from Glasgow City Council

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The result of the discussion was: Merge , following the nomination below. – Fayenatic London 07:43, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Rugby league players from Glasgow City Council to Category:Rugby league players from Glasgow

Nominator's rationale: No actual articles. Rathfelder (talk) 11:26, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural oppose, this is part of a tree by council area. No objection to nominating the whole tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:16, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural oppose as above. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rugby union players from Glasgow City Council

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. – Fayenatic London 07:36, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Rugby union players from Glasgow City Council to Category:Rugby union players from Glasgow

Nominator's rationale: Unclear what distinction is intended, but the name is misleading Rathfelder (talk) 11:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge I assume the creator was trying to create a category for rugby union players from the area of Glasgow from looking at some of the players in the category. It's over-categorisation though and all of the players in the category can be merged into rugby union players from Glasgow without any issue. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural oppose, this is part of a tree by council area. No objection to nominating the whole tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural oppose per Marco. No objection to nominating the whole tree. --Just N. (talk) 23:28, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural oppose as above. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, Justus Nussbaum, and Extraordinary Writ: looking at Category:Rugby union players in Scotland by council area, is it just Edinburgh and Glasgow that would be nominated for renaming to "(council area)"? – Fayenatic London 14:42, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge: looking back at my earlier contribution to this discussion, it is obvious that I did not fully grasp that Glasgow City Council coincides with the city of Glasgow. It could have formulated more clearly in the rationale too. So as long as the "from Glasgow" category also becomes a subcategory of a "by council area" parent, merging is perfectly alright. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:44, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Boolean, register, and condition testing templates

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:If-then-else templates. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 21:09, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Boolean, register, and condition testing templates to Category:If-then-else templates

Nominator's rationale: Category title doesn’t really make sense (CPUs have registers, wikimarkup doesn’t, and “boolean” and “condition” mean effectively the same thing in this context). Same meaning and similar content to Category:If-then-else templates. User:GKFX^talk 11:26, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:37, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 23:30, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Burial sites of Albanian noble families

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Burial sites of European royal families. – Fayenatic London 12:01, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Burial sites of Albanian noble families (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, there is only one article in this tree which does not mention any Albanians. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- Wilhelm, Prince of Albania was sovereign prince of Albania for a few months in 1914, but he was a German prince elevated that throne. The justification for the category is his burial place. However I doubt this is a useful category. The normal solutiuon would be to upmerge, but I doubt that would be a good idea. Merging to Category:Burial sites of European royal families (only) would be feasible. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:54, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That does not address the issue that the article in the tree, Curtea de Argeș Cathedral, has no relationship with Wilhelm, Prince of Albania. Wilhelm was buried in a Lutheran church. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:04, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
query does it have scope to grow? Were any other Albanian royals buried in Albania? Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:08, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would not expect so. Albania gained independence in early 20th century and was a republic for most of the time. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:16, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Merge as I suggested. The only other monarch was Zog I of Albania who died in exile in Paris. Or Listify. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Or Listify.Or Merge Per SMALLCAT. --Just N. (talk) 23:34, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Burial sites of the Royal families of Armenia

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Burial sites of noble families of the Crusader states. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Burial sites of the Royal families of Armenia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, there are only two articles in this tree which do not mention any Armenians. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:41, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Burial sites of noble families of the Crusader states. The subcategory refers to Armenia, a state on the southern coast of Turkey, taken over by crusaders. Perhaps that is tantamount to deleting it. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merging to Category:Burial sites of noble families of the Crusader states would be tantamount to deletion indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Agree with Marcocapelle, who found the existing category that I wanted. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge just as you prefer. --Just N. (talk) 23:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Working pages for the Wikipedia bots

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 11:23, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Working pages for the Wikipedia bots to Category:Pages monitored by Wikipedia bots

Nominator's rationale: These seem to be the same thing. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:55, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 09:51, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support same subjects. AnM2002 (talk) 07:32, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 23:38, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Chulalongkorn Faculty of Architecture alumni

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to merge, so rename to Category:Faculty of Architecture, Chulalongkorn University alumni. – Fayenatic London 11:01, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Chulalongkorn Faculty of Architecture alumni to Category:?

Nominator's rationale: Not sure if this is the best name for the category. "Chulalongkorn Faculty of Architecture" is a construct that doesn't seem to be normally used anywhere. The usual form of the name would be "Faculty of Architecture, Chulalongkorn University", though Category:Faculty of Architecture, Chulalongkorn University alumni or Category:Alumni of the Faculty of Architecture, Chulalongkorn University do seem excessively long. Are there better alternatives? Paul_012 (talk) 04:40, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominate: Category:Chulalongkorn University Faculty of Architecture alumni using full name, a bit long but no alternative--Polyesterchips (talk) 12:48, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Chulalongkorn University alumni which hasn't otherwise been split by faculty. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Faculty of Architecture, Chulalongkorn is quite popular in Thailand, similar to Faculty of Law, Thammasat. Sub-category deserved.--Polyesterchips (talk) 12:48, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Faculty of Architecture, Chulalongkorn University alumni (per eg Category:Faculty of Law, University of Delhi alumni and per the structure of existing articles in Category:Chulalongkorn University) or merge per Marcocapelle. Oculi (talk) 09:41, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Faculty of Architecture, Chulalongkorn University alumni, agree this is consistent. If the faculty is large enough in terms of notable articles there is no reason to merge to a university wide one.--Mvqr (talk) 16:20, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Chulalongkorn University alumni. We do not usually split alumni, though there are exceptions. At worst, Category:Chulalongkorn University architecture alumni. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:14, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Chulalongkorn University alumni. --Just N. (talk) 23:40, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The main alumni category is quite large, and I think would make more sense to eventually break it down into subcategories than merge the subcat back there. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:02, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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