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  • Mohammed Hadid (history · last edit) from url:http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/06/world/mohammed-hadid-92-an-iraqi-who-long-backed-democracy.html.
    • It appears that a couple of paragraphs ("Hadid stayed active in party politics..." and "After the third coup, ...") are substantially lifted from the NYT obit given above. There is much other content in the article so I don't think on the whole this is a copyvio, but it may be that these few sentences are close enough that they need work. It's a tricky one since of course a rewording would not of itself clean it of copyright, but since necessarily an obit is going to have substantially the same facts for things like the cause of death, survivors etc it cannot I think be reasonably stated that all of this is a plain lift (and it has been reworded to fit the rest of the article's style, and other stuff added), it just looks a little too close for comfort to me. I'm just bringing it to others' attention. I don't see any bad faith here, and the NYT is referenced as a source (it would seem overdone to pull out the text into quote style). Si Trew (talk) 07:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement. Most copyright problems we see are not bad faith, but arise from unfortunate misunderstandings of copyright law or policy. I have removed some of the text, deleted others, and addressed with the contributor. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wow. There's been a lot of water under the bridge since you listed this one! (WP:CP is not generally a good venue for urgent material, I'm afraid, as admins don't typically even look at listings until they come ripe for closure, seven days after listing.) In specific answer to your question: "Isn't posting the text of the E-mails a copyright violation, without the permission of the copyright holder..."? Yes, it is, unless the material is PD by source (US government, for instance) or by age which, well, it won't be. Not unless people have been e-mailing a lot longer than I know. :D Furthermore, it's forbidden by arbcom here. It's certainly possible to quote from them in accordance with WP:NFC, but they should not be reproduced in their entirety. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]