Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/Automobile ownership

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Keep - The argument "no one is using this" is a weak argument in the face of the counter-argument "Hey, I'm using that". Given the existence of Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles, deletion only creates more work for everyone, and pages do make it out of draft years later. Wily D 07:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Colonel Warden/Automobile ownership

Deleted at AfD three-and-a-half years ago and hoarded without revision since. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:55, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:STALEDRAFT clearly applies. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, cf. <https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=531116697&oldid=531102640>. --MZMcBride (talk) 17:43, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- after this length of time, it is clear that there's no intention to work on this. Reyk _YO! 02:04, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete [[WP:STALEDRAFT] doesn't formally define long versus short, but IMO, three plus years is long. Not to mention that it doesn't seem like a suitable article in any event.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 17:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This MFD should have never existed. See comments here. bibliomaniac 1 5 07:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I've made a start here as it seems that Orville will keep for a while yet. First, let's understand how we got here. Notice that there was an AFD in 2006 and the result was Keep. The second nomination, three years later, did not seem to have a consensus for deletion either (4 keeps, 3 deletes and 1 merge) but was closed as delete because no-one had improved the article during the discussion. That was a strange result but rather than contest this at DRV, I suppose I persuaded the closer to userfy it so that the improvement could then take place. Being busy with many other things, I've not had any particular reason to do this yet and so the page has just quietly rested until this third nomination.

I've been quite busy lately but started looking at sources again last weekend. I've spent an hour just now doing some editing and the article is coming along nicely. There's still lots more to do though. As samples of the sources which we have to work with, please see Car ownership in Great Britain and Modelling Car Ownership in Urban Areas. These are substantial papers containing many statistics and pointers to other scholarly sources.

So, we now have some long-awaited improvement and so the stale draft claim is moot. I expect to be able to make improvements to the other drafts in question too — it's just a matter of finding time and energy. But, it's after midnight now and nobody is paying me to do this so I'm going to bed.

Warden (talk) 00:18, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Blank during inactivity, replacing with {{Inactive userpage blanked}}. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:37, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.