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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Speedy keep. Given the cogent explanation of how WikiAfrica has a very different nature from WikiProject Africa, no reasonable deletion rationale has been presented. Given the ongoing outreach efforts by this GLAM project, now in a time-critical phase, it is advisible to close this discussion. In addition, given the number of subpages involved, the passing suggestion that someone made for a merge-and-redirect should definitely not be implemented. Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:13, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiAfrica

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Redundant to Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa. This doesn't seem to be doing anything that a WikiProject doesn't. A RFC was raised last year over this project, but it failed to get any traction. No purpose whatsoever, very little activity. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 13:14, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • ETA: Creator says "WikiAfrica has different goals to the WikiProject Africa, in that our project focuses on getting external Africa-based, cultural organisations, museums and archives, as well as bloggers and journalists, to contribute their knowledge to Wikipedia." Number one, it's not working. Number two, WikiProjects do that too, don't they? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 13:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TenPoundHammer, would you please explain what "it's not working" is referred to? Thanks! --Elitre (talk) 14:37, 30 October 2012 (UTC) PS: I would also like to point to similar discussions in the past: Wikipedia talk:WikiAfrica. --Elitre (talk) 14:41, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As a person involved, I also need to make a few points clear, hope everybody will appreciate that :D
  • This is a GLAM project. This is explained very clearly here and on outreach.wiki.
  • The project is pretty much alive and kicking! By the end of the year, it will reach its milestone of 30,000 contributions between articles and images (not just on en.wiki, of course), also thanks to the Share Your Knowledge subproject. You can check regular updates here, on it.wiki and on outreach.wiki. New articles, images and case studies are being published daily. It might be worth checking this file with the last report about our contributions. We are currently working on a referenced database about African villages that many Wikipedias are publishing in these days, and on a batch upload of images about African art from the Brooklyn Museum. If there is anything else you need to know, just ask. Thanks. --Elitre (talk) 15:00, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Because your premise (1st two sentences in the nomination) appears to be disputed by others. I haven't looked into it myself. So, I'm at "Keep or Merge and Redirect", where the distinction should be a matter for discussion on the talk page. If you are completely right (which is possible), then you could have BOLDly done the redirect and no one would have an objection. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This is a GLAM project with input to all wikimedia projects, not just wikipedia. GLAM work is important as it creates links with other organisations that wikiprojects do not. There is however a case to move it to meta. --Bduke (Discussion) 09:16, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I beg your pardon, but GLAM projects are not usually hosted on Meta. Plus, I would like to underline that the project is on the stretch line (it will be over by 2012...) and that we had already planned moving and/or renaming pages, and we would like to think about this in a while. But this page? This is about deleting the biggest GLAM project ever, and I am pretty sure you have some rules here on en.wiki about dismissing deletion procedures which have no grounds whatsoever? I have not understood what this is about can't possibly be a good reason for wasting everybody's time, can it? Plus, no activity is just not true, as showed above. How about we let bygones be bygones? :) --Elitre (talk) 11:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is quite a bit of GLAM stuff on Meta. Just look at the links here, but perhaps there is more on the outreach wiki. Indeed you give a link to pages about this on outreach. This discussion is about deleting the wikipedia page and I do not think it should stay on wikipedia. It should be moved elsewhere. --Bduke (Discussion) 15:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC).[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


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