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10 August 2013
[edit]- Suspected sockpuppets
- Alexis418 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Entyre (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Geoffsmile (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Verdict78 (talk) 10:41, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
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There seems to be a lot of suspicious activity regarding edits for the page Anastasia International. Entyre was a banned sockpuppet, and I feel that the two newest editors may also fall into this category. They have very few or no recent edits. Alexis418 has only ever edited the Anastasia International page, and many of those edits are negative and are blocking the progression of the page. Geoffsmile recently edited the article out of the blue, when the user has never edited the page previously.
I feel it's all very suspicious and needs looking into. Verdict78 (talk) 09:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
- In short, there is no crossover between the accounts. Neither of them worked on the account at the same time, which to say they were both so heavily involved seems very suspicious, as if they've been cycled. Also, Alexis418 didn't use there account for a number of months, the minute Entyre's unblock request seems to go quiet... Alexis418 re-emerges. While they didn't work on the article at the same time, however the one factor that they have in common is they are both pushing the merger of the article. Below are some diffs for you to analyse.
[[1]] - Entyre beginning the discussion of a merger [[2]] [[3]] [[4]] - Alexis418 doesn't make any changes to the article, apart from 3 reverts, where we are trying to build a credible article. These reverts also come 6 days after Entyre requested to be unblocked [[5]]
I hope that makes things clearer and we can get to the bottom of this suspicious activity Verdict78 (talk) 23:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
I am not a sockpuppet or sockmaster. Perhaps Verdict78 you could go back to the Aanstasia International talk page and talk about the subject material instead of trying to ban any editor who disagrees with you. Let's try to explain in detail how we disagree then do a request for comments from other Wikipedia editors. It's true I know a lot about this company because I worked for them and my friends still do, however the basis of the article has to be the analysis of the reviewed, published material, not our own imagination or personal facts. I didn't make any changes because the article as for a long time, but when I noticed it had been whitewashed by you, I fixed it. I'll just assume that you don't know anything about the company (as you claim to believe the company is based in Maine), rather than the worse assumption which is that you work for them. Because anyone who works for them or interacts with them for some time learns the truth of the enterprise. Alexis418 (talk) 04:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
King Of - Thanks for the info, this is the first time I have got involved in the process so sorry for the poor info on my part. Alexis418, sorry to say your activity is very suspicious its nothing personal. I'd just like an admin to check everything out. The last thing I want is an article I'm working on, having a sockpuppet working on it. I've come across a couple more facts. It seems Alexis418 has been involved in a sockpuppet investigation before, after visiting his User_talk:Alexis418. From the edits he's been making, I'd say this is Wikipedia:COI if you have worked for them? I'm wondering if a Wikipedia:CHECK would be appropriate? In regards to the diff for Entyre, I'll be honest.... Not sure what I should be looking for? Verdict78 (talk) 21:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I may have found some additional information. Both Entyre and Alexis418 carried out little editing, but the minute someone makes an edit regarding ownership, it is reverted. Here is Entrye making those changes diff 1 and diff 2. Diff 1 is the first edit he carried out on the article, instantly changing the name from Anastasia Date to Anastasia International. Diff 2 is also another edit further into the future, where an edit is reverted when someone questions the company name. If you then look at the recent history of Alexis418, all he is doing is carrying on the work of Entrye. Trying to keep this as a 'controversial' article, with no interests in editing any other article or attempting to improve the page so either the merger can be solved, or improve citations. I assume good faith, but in this scenario its very difficult. Especially when above he admits he "worked for them". Verdict78 (talk) 10:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Nothing wrong with admins checking the history if they want. I used to edit a few times by IP address I had before I made the named account but that is normal. It's too bad you (verdict78) don't focus your investigation energy to figure out Anastasia International in order to improve the article you say you want to improve, what a waste of a good mind obsessing about other editors. Here's a bone to help you along: http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/my-career-in-fooling-men-into-love-online-321737.html I'll paste the actual contents into your talk page because this article is behind a paywall, if you ask me to. Alexis418 (talk) 07:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the user check King Of. Hopefully this should clear a few things up. Verdict78 (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
[edit]- Additional information needed - Clerk declined. In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
- At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
- At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
- In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- Clerk note: You still haven't provided a diff by Entyre to compare to. An unblock request is not relevant evidence. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:59, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Clerk endorsed - Behaviorally it doesn't seem super likely, but at least there is enough evidence that the socking allegations seem plausible, justifying a check. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting results here, though mostly Inconclusive due to the use of webhosts and open proxies. That said, it appears that Geoffsmile (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) and Luke goff (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) are Technically indistinguishable.
- Proxies blocked. Tiptoety talk 05:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Geoffsmile and Luke goff indeffed, Alexis418 left alone due to insufficient evidence. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:04, 2 September 2013 (UTC)