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29 August 2012
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WP:DUCK - same non-competent English level used in edit summaries at Prostitution in the People's Republic of China, each user making the same reverts on that page. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 07:50, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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27 November 2014
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User:Mixjang1234 and User:Baohio8888 are two recent accounts of his that came up. I provided the old accounts like User:NEOSHANG User:Wangbeeera and User:Xinggoin to show behavorial similarities. He was investigated before at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chinese-proti/Archive and the other confirmed two sockpuppet accounts User:Xingxing23432 and User:Wajnghaohao03 display the same behavior. He was warned and blocked for sockpuppetry and edit warring before.

Similar broken English in edit summaries, adding similar content, similar agenda (trying to emphasize Chinese women's prostitution or sexual relations with Korean men or other foreigners while downplaying Korean women's prostitution or sexual relations to Chinese men.)

Mixjang1234

JOSONJOK' -the records contain no mention of DATA

forced into sexual slavery= sex slaves= forced marriage , Douglas, Carol Anne (3 March 2004) = nonsense statistics , Around total 11,000 North Korean refugees remained in hiding in near the border with their home country.(Recent data by USCRI )

Chinese-proti (he was rapped by an admin and other users for using unreliable sources or even outright misrepresenting what the sources said to push his agenda)

Trafficking Person Report = most trust data , untrust ?? What makes you so positive? , China is the world's largest exporter of women..

==Chineses prostitutes in other countries== don`t delete fact , major problem , Foreign prostitutes in China - minority

==Chineses prostitutes in other countries== don`t delete fact , major problem , Foreign prostitutes in China - minority ok> UNODC , USA REPORT MOST reliable

Xingxing23432

don`t emotional and sudden action. Prostitution in china - chinese Prostitution in other country = an inseparable relation , UNODC- statistics compiled from authentic sources

Wajnghaohao03

BEFORE Mitoese VISION , data BEFORE argument , i agree this vision

NEOSHANG

China is the world's largest exporter of prostitutes. -UNODC , US REPORT -

Wangbeeera

this content is international problem. more intelligible meaning

intelligible meaning

Same content added

Mixjang1234

Most of the clients of North Korean women are Chinese citizens of Korean descent, largely elderly bachelors.

Chinese-proti

Most of the clients of North Korean women are Chinese citizens of Korean descent, largely elderly bachelors.

Most of the clients of North Korean women are Chinese citizens of Korean descent, largely elderly bachelors.

Wangbeeera

Most of the clients of North Korean women are Chinese citizens of Korean descent, largely elderly bachelors.

Xinggoin

China is the world's biggest supplier of prostitutes

Wangbeeera

China is the world's largest exporter of prostitutes

Baohio8888

User:Baohio8888 appeared just hours after User:Mixjang1234 and added content about Chinese women and sexual relations with Korean men, while misrepresenting what the sources said Rajmaan (talk) 15:14, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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20 December 2014
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Suspected sockpuppets

New Accounts

Old Accounts (These need to be blocked too because he is back to using them, he just used User:Raducanandreea to re-add his old edits to Prostitution in South Korea since it was semi-protected. See the history of the page - https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_South_Korea&action=history ) He may go back to using the other accounts as well so we can't leave them alone just because they are old, they need to be indefinitely blocked.

User:Boahoi234 added the exact same content as previous sockpuppet account User:Baohio8888

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_China&diff=638847304&oldid=638238823

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_China&diff=630071530&oldid=630046529

User:Rijun1234 made his first edit on the exact same day as User:Boahoi234 and the usernames are similar in that they all end in numbers. They all edit on prostitution related articles, and all of his edits are about Korean men having sex with foreign women. Similar username, same type of content added, same agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_South_Korea&diff=prev&oldid=638854578

I also recommend semi-protecting the page permanently, because he has been watching that page and doing this for years. Rajmaan (talk) 22:09, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Below are old accounts I missed, you can see their edits at the histories of these two pages. He has been doing this for five years, since 2009. Someone needs to put a stop to this. His accounts all follow the exact same agenda- trying to spam links about how Chinese prostitutes are everywhere, while trying to delete content about Korean women's prostitution to foreign men and trying to claim foreign women are having sex with Korean men.

See the evidence I provided at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chinese-proti/Archive for his already blocked accounts, and his contributions below. He adds the same content to the same articles over and over again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_South_Korea&offset=20120412175756&action=history

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_South_Korea&offset=20110820021236&action=history

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_South_Korea&offset=20100504123033&action=history

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_North_Korea&offset=20100125034935&action=history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Raducanandreea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hosungsung

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Neotommy10

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/KAHUSIMA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SETYOUNE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Neotom100

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CAKCYKATIK

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Northjsodjdj

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ooggii

and these ip addresses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/121.165.130.100

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/121.165.130.51

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  • Comment: I also noticed the edits pop up on my watchlist, and found that the two users (Boahoi234, Rijun1234) were rather suspicious, in that they both make similar style edits, have very similar usernames, and were spontaneously active at exactly the same period of time. I'd call WP:DUCK, but I'll leave that to the clerk to decide. --benlisquareT•C•E 12:20, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Following accounts are  Confirmed, blocked and tagged.
The others listed above will need a behavioural evaluation. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:30, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
28 December 2014
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This is an old account, but he has resorted to using five year old dormant sock accounts before to get around semi-protected pages so this needs to be blocked regardless of its age.

Same obsession with prostitutes, exact same content added

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_China&diff=prev&oldid=479580135

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=North_Korean_defectors&diff=prev&oldid=293094795


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DFSAFDSF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Chinese-proti/Archive Rajmaan (talk) 23:06, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 Completed Evidence is there, and given the circumstances I'm okay with blocking. For the record this would not be the first of Chinese-proti's socks blocked years after their last edit. Closing — MusikAnimal talk 05:53, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

13 June 2015
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Same obsession with spamming links about Chinese prostitutes, same target articles (except he can only edit the talk pages because the articles are semi-protected) also the sockmaster is fluent in Korean like this sock account.

Safsdffdfd

China is the world's biggest supplier of prostitutes...According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), Thailand, China, Nigeria, Albania, Bulgaria, Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine are among the countries that are the greatest sources of trafficked persons. .... According to the United States Department of State(Trafficking Person Report (US)),Chinese prostitutes are trafficked into dozens countries to serve up local men.(Afghanistan,Australia,Belgium,Brazil,Chile,Cote d'Ivoire,Cyprus,Czech,East Timor,Equatorial Guinea. Fiji,Finland,Finland,Guinea,Hungary,Hungary,Indonesia,Italy,Japan,Korea,Laos,Laos,Malaysia,The Netherlands, New Zealand,Omen,The Philippines,Qatar,Slovak,Sri Lanka,Thailand,UAE,The U.K.Uzbekistan,Venezuela,Solomon Island, Cambodia,France,South Africa,Spain,Suriname, etc.) .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Prostitution_in_South_Korea&diff=prev&oldid=666787564

Chinese-proti

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Chinese-proti

China is the world's largest exporter of prostitutes , UNODC, Trafficking report (United States Department of State)

For the record, he has been doing this since 2009 and you can see his other sock accounts in the archive

Rajmaan (talk) 19:42, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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30 May 2020

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Per WP:DUCK. Bablos939 has a single-minded focus on prostitution and interracial mixing involving Chinese women, exactly like Chinese-proti and his sockpuppets. Bamnamu (talk) 01:52, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]



I am entirely confident now Bablos939 is Chinese-proti due to him making nearly the same style edit summaries and his removing the same thing from the same article. I looked at Chinese-proti sockpuppet edits.

I found another fresh Chinese-proti sock that matches his previous edits, Skyslandscanner. This justifies another request to check the account.

Chinese-proti and his socks added Korean sources to articles and content that said the customers of Korean prostitutes in China are ethnic Korean men.

A new account Skyslandscanner does the same thing here. He says " Cybersex organization's operators are ethnic Korean-Chinese and North Korean women's customers are South Korean men."

Skyslandscanner says "North Korean women's customers(or husband) are mostly ethnic Korean-Chinese men." These are Skyslandscanner's only two edits and he showed up on 30 May 2020

Chinese-proti said " Korean women`s customers in foreign countries are mostly Korean men."

Chinese-proti said ".Most of the clients of North Korean women are Chinese citizens of Korean descent, largely elderly bachelors."

Chinese-proti sock Mixjang1234 said "Most of the clients of North Korean women are Chinese citizens of Korean descent, largely elderly bachelors."

Chinese-proti sock Wangbeeera said ".Most of the clients of North Korean women are Chinese citizens of Korean descent, largely elderly bachelors."


Bablos939 is not a new editor. In Bablos939's second edit to prostitution in Cambodia he added this perfectly formatted citation and it's actually new editors tend to make the mistaken of edit warring to restore their contributions and get blocked for engaging in them rather than someone familiar with Wikipedia rules on consensus. Bablos939 used a lot of wordy terminology referring to Wikipedia rules on the talk page of interracial marriage showing he isn't a new editor. How many new Wikipedia accounts show immediately after account creation who know how to format citations perfectly and know how to refer to Wikipedia rules in arguments? Bablos939 isn't actually obeying those rules he just uses them as a crutch in his argument. He is violating original research and NPOV which he accuses others of doing by him deleting information on Korean miscegenation and lying about what sources say. He claimed no sources existed for Korean female miscegenation in the Yuan dynasty he was talking about, when shown them he promptly ignored it in the discussion and acted like it didn't happen. He claimed no sources existed for Persian women in Guangzhou. When showed them he then ignored and insisted he be able to restore his edits where he removed it. Read the talk page discussion edit by edit.

I ask any third editor who can do it with reliable sources, go ahead, add information on both Chinese women and Korean women to articles on miscegenating or prostitution with other races if they are relevant to the article and see if this account cannot resist deleting Korean women from the pages. If Bablos939 had not made the edit removing the things about Korean women he wouldn't have blown the cover off his agenda.

Chinese-proti's modus operandi fits Bablos939 perfectly. They both speak similar accents and grammar and are Korean nationalists trying to remove the same content. Notice the same use of the hyphen.

Chinese-proti deleting information about Chinese men miscegenating saying "Iranian, Arab, and Turkic women - marry - same Iranian, Arab, and Turkic men. Instead Iranian, Arab, and Turkic men marry locar chinese women." He talks the same accent and notice how he uses the hyphen?

Iranian, Arab, and Turkic women also migrated to China and mixed with Chinese. Iranian women as dancers were in demand in China during this period. During the Sui dynasty, ten young dancing girls were sent from Persia to China. During the Tang dynasty bars were often attended by Iranian or Sogdian waitresses who performed dances for clients.[29][30][31][32][33][34][35][36][37][38][39][40]

Fast forward to 2020 Bablos939 deletes almost he exact same paragraph from the same article. The paragraph was modified a little but it's the same one he wants to remove. Bablos939 talks in the same accent like Chinese-proti.

Iranian women dancers were in demand in China during this period. During the Sui dynasty, ten young dancers were sent from Persia to China. During the Tang dynasty, bars were often attended by Iranian or Sogdian waitresses who performed dances for clients.[118][119][120][121][122][123][124][125][126][127][128]

Fast forward to 2020 and Bablos939 uses the same accent English and with the hypen usage, " The report say 'ethnic Chinese victim -internatinal , ethnic Malay and ethnic Indian victim-domestically'"

Chinese-proti says on Prostitution in China "trafficking Person Report = most trust data , untrust ?? What makes you so positive? , China is the world's largest exporter of women.." He deletes about Korean women miscegenating and only writes about China. Notice how he uses the hypen?

Chinese-proti sock NEOSHANG says "China is the world's largest exporter of prostitutes. -UNODC , US REPORT -)"

Chinese-proti sock Raducanandreea said this after an edit by Cabayi. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bbb23&diff=prev&oldid=639092066 "Chinese prostitutes problom is very common in the Korea. CHINESES USER always obstinate about a useless point. Speak up if you have any complaints. Facts alone are what are wanted in wikipedia. It's no use denying the fact"]

Chinese-proti sock Rijun1234 says "We can't deny reality)"

Chinese-proti sock Boahoi234 says "To deny that seems to be to deny reality. Let's stop this nonsense. fact is important"

Fast forward to 2020 and Bablos939 says "NZ immigration report"

Fast forward to 2020 and Bablos939 says "Don't distort reality anymore."

Maomao4321 who is a new account created only for backing up Bablos939 in the interracial marriage talk page discussion talks the same accent and grammar English as Bablos939

In 2020 now Bablos939, instead of targeting the Prostitution in China article which Chinese-proti edited he made the decision to edit about Chinese prostitution in other countries. Same topic but on different articles. Bablos939 appears to have learned a little from the Chinese-proti experience. Bablos939 added Vietnamese women and other women as long as they weren't Korean along with Chinese women in prostitution articles to make it seem as though he was not excessively focused on Chinese women this time. But it still exposes the pattern, all his edits are about Chinese women with just other women added on. In some articles he added Vietnamese or another ethnicity along with Chinese but the common thread like Chinese-proti is about Chinese women. The other women vary each time. Editing the Prostitution in China article would be one coincidence too many and he learned from that.

Lets pretend Bablos939 is not a Chinese-proti, that he isn't engaging in nationalist edit warring and his contributions were actually neutral. His accent and grammar renders him unable to edit articles without someone looking over all edits he makes.Watersinfalls (talk) 23:50, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Montalk123 edits on different articles and his modus operandi is slightly different. His edit summaries are different and his favorite accusation is sexism.

Montalk123 edits on different articles and his modus operandi is slightly different. His edit summaries are different and his favorite accusation is sexism.

I looked at Montalk123 again and he might be another person because he appears to be actually fluent in English unlike Chinese-proti, Bablos939 and Maomao4321 who types with really bad grammar which gives away who his socks are. If Chinese-proti suddenly learned to speak good he wouldn't have voluntarily typed bad grammar since people can recognize it. But I am absolutely confident now that Bablos939, Maomao4321 and Skyslandscanner are Chinese-proti and have provided the evidence to prove it on the investigation page. They speak the same, edited the same articles, deleted the same things and add the same material as each other. Montalk123 didn't edit in the same articles exactly. Montalk123 not sure but the other three definitely yes. I have also added evidence showing Chinese-proti and Bablos939 doing the same thing to the interracial marriage article.Watersinfalls (talk) 01:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]



I found another fresh Chinese-proti sock, Marryhence. Marryhence is obsessed with editing about Chinese prostitutes in South Korea like Chinese-proti. Marryhence types the in same grammar as Chinese-proti, Bablos939 and Skyslandscanner but unlike Montalk123 who I no longer think is the same person.

Marryhence edits comfort women and is apparently downplaying the number of Korean comfort women (women forced into prostitution) saying , the volume explained "from 1943, about 200,000 Korean women were mobilized as workers under the name of 'women volunteer corps : not comfort women,The previous sentence distorted this so.

his next edit is aggrandizing the number of Chinese comfort women claiming they were the largest. He did it again.

Bablos939 says "I'm just pointing out the distorted data by someone like you."

Marryhence like Bablos939 and Chinese-proti edited the Interracial marriage article. Marryhence deleted a sentence about Chinese male miscegenation with women like Bablos949 did on the same article

Marryhence like Bablos939 and Chinese-proti is obsessed with the same paragraph on Interracial marriage. Marryhence deleted the sentence "Iranian, Arab and Turkic women also occasionally migrated to China and mixed with Chinese." saying in his edit summary "This sentence has no basis or source at all."

Marryhence edits prostitution in Japan claiming most prostitutes are Chinese there.

Marryhence edits about North Korean refugees in China which his other sockpuppet Skyslandscanner and Chinese-proti edited about.

Marryhence edits about Chinese prostitutes in Malaysia and non-Chinese customers

Marryhence edits Prostitution in the United Arab Emirates adding Chinese prostitutes and saying "Chinese women undercut them all in the lobbies of three-star hotels or even on the streets".

Every single edit by Marryhence on Prostitution in South Korea is about Chinese prostitutes using similar sources

‎Chinese-proti also edited the prostitution in South Korea artciel.

Every single edit by Chinese-proti sock Raducanandreea on Prostitution in South Korea is about Chinese prostitutes

Chinese-proti sock Raducanandreea edited about Chinese prostitution in Qatar and added China to prostitution in Israel

Chinese-proti sock KAHUSIMA deleted the statement "U.S. troops have used an estimated 1 million Korean women in prostitution over the past six decades." and it's accompanying source.Watersinfalls (talk) 01:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The ip 41.34.93.140 has denounced Bablos939 as a sock of Montalk123 who was banned only two months ago and requested it get added to the sockpuppet investigation here [2] [3]. His account is not stale but fresh.

41.34.93.140's reasons are

"If you look at his contribution all of his early contribution in the Yuan dynasty, Imperial Chinese harem system, Qing dynasty, Goryeo under Mongol rule, Heqin it's all about removing Korean women but only editing Chinese women with foreign men. I suggest we edit on Korean women interracial marriages if he continues because I can clearly see he is just cherrypicking on Chinese women in all his interracial marriage edits."
For example in women in China, he intentionally removed Korean women"
https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Women_in_China&diff=prev&oldid=946480356

Watersinfalls (talk) 17:08, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do think that Bablos939 is Chinese-proti like other editor suggested but I also agree with the other eidtor that Babloss939 is MaoMao4321.

I 100% believe ( with strong evidence ) Bablos939 is Maomao4321 and Montalk123 just like the other user suggested but even more is Maomao4321.

Maomao4321, Blablos939, Maomao4321 all have one thing in commons.

1) They all numbers in the end. 2) They all write Chinese women.

I believe they all share similar IP locations (possibly either from Korea some close city locations).

I say this based on factual the evidence that both of the google book link shows Korean google translations when they were posting their sources. A user out of nowhere like Maomao4321 just decide to come in and post exact same Korean translation links, same points, same defence. 41.232.35.139 (talk) 20:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A) I am not Maomao4321, Montalk123. I am willing to receive any technical investigation. B) single-purpose account : Watersinfalls, 41.34.93.140 , Those accounts only participate in this discussion.!!! They are all distorting the source and concealing their relationship with foreign men. And they are telling lies about foreign women. He seems to be participating in the discussion by IP address to avoid tracking. Very common sense, they are the same person. Maybe he is Chinese and nationalists.Bablos939 (talk) 10:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mz7 I submitted Skyslandscanner as a sockpuppet which I am sure is Chinese-proti since he is adding the same content. I also express reservations on accusing Montalk123 since he speaks good and fluently with no discernible foreign language grammar but I added new evidence and doubled down on Bablos939, Maomao4321 and Skyslandscanner being Chinese-proti since they share the same bad grammar and inability to pluralize in English properly. I have also added evidence showing Chinese-proti and Bablos939 doing the same thing to the interracial marriage article.Watersinfalls (talk) 01:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Watersinfalls is insulting Korean culture while saying something completely irrelevant like a crazy person. It is spreading an absurd rumor that I am Bablos939 assistant, even though I made an ID before she did.Maomao4321 (talk) 06:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

single-purpose account : Watersinfalls, 41.34.93.140 ,102.44.199.16 , Maomao123 . 41.232.35.139 , 70.77.154.228 , Buzinezz , Sloosher A sleeper 'Watersinfalls' has probably now decided to sue all the users he doesn't like. I have a lot of discussion experience in Wikipedia. Sometimes I succumbed to others. Because I respect Agreement. But I have never cowardly summoned another user. If I had intended to use a sockpuppet, I would have used it earlier. In this debate, even single-purpose account is lying using false information, so I can fully point out his error on my own. They are 'Rajmaan'. They should be blocked.Bablos939 (talk) 13:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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