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21 December 2021

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All these accounts have very similar interests to the blocked user Jellywings19, and are implicated by behaviour. All have a very specific interest in adding unsourced or removing sourced passenger flight destinations for Indonesian airports, which seems to be shared by few (if any) other users. Jellywings also has a history of EWLO to evade blocks, as does Ibavcahe87, for which they were reported to WP:Ani, and were subsequently blocked. Two of these accounts, Ibavcahe87 and Unszxsa76 were created only four hours apart, and edit articles on the same topic. In addition, Usingother76 was created whilst Ibavcahe87 was blocked (for adding unsourced material), and Kokusaijoxo was created around when Ibavcahe87s block expired. I have included some blocked accounts for reference purposes, such as Ibavcahe87 and Jellyjelly34. Checkuser for any sleepers, since they seem to have created quite a lot of accounts in a very short time, (I think it may also show an even older account, which I haven't listed here, due to inconclusive evidence). The behavioural evidence on these is enough. I am happy to provide a more detailed rundown of the evidence if needed. Mako001 (talk) 04:49, 21 December 2021 (UTC) Edited 07:36, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, where there are enough edits for a meaningful time card, there are some parallels there as well. @Bbb23:, I noticed you blocked Ibavcahe87 after my report to ANI. Thanks for that. I think you might be interested in this? Mako001 (talk) 07:36, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Per Drmies' comments below, Kokusaijoxo is confirmed to Jellywings19, and Usingother76 and Unsxza76 are linked to Kokusaijoxo through CU. Ryantioss apprears unrelated. I've tagged the blocked accounts accordingly. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 07:30, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

21 December 2021

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Adding this one, reverted my removal of their content. The username makes it very obvious. Mako001 (talk) 10:59, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I am contributor for Samarinda aviation article, my username has similar word Jelly but I am not Jellywings19. All my revision is reliable, and never do edit warring. Please investigate my username. I just want to correct destination on BPN airport by providing complete summary about my revision. Thank you.--Jellylovers (talk) 11:07, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I check most articles edit by this user and it is so similar to other accounts listed here such as this which is similar to other sock edits.[1][2] JTommyZ (talk) 11:09, 21 December 2021 (UTC) [reply]

This is a content dispute that does not belong here. Do not continue it.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:52, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

@JTommyZ: Please check also that Sriwijaya flights really exists on the airline website or other source, you can check my contributions on Wikimedia Commons, I am contributing for Samarinda aviation article.--Jellylovers (talk) 11:13, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jellylovers: I am sorry, but when I check it and it's true, it no longer served this route anymore. So that means you are vandalizing Wikipedia as the result. JTommyZ (talk) 11:20, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JTommyZ: Check flight on 25 Dec and 28 Dec, it is already there: SJ172. Please do the check.--Jellylovers (talk) 11:25, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JTommyZ: I don't have any interest to edit articles nationwide (Indonesia), all my contributions is about Samarinda, and this time Balikpapan (neighbouring city of Samarinda, same province)--Jellylovers (talk) 11:28, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JTommyZ: Please go to Flightradar24, it is also clear there, SJ173 landed in the afternoon (today) at 3:32 pm (local time), from UPG to BPN. So who is vandalizing Wikipedia here?--Jellylovers (talk) 11:41, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And there is Original Research here by JTommyZ, the user write in the summary that he/she was in BPN yesterday. I wonder if JTommyZ want to wait at the airport from the morning to the evening just to check for Sriwijaya Air aircraft, and then editing the Wikipedia article using Original Research.--Jellylovers (talk) 13:23, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jellylovers I was flying another airline and I agree that I found nothing about Sriwijaya flying to BPN on flight schedule yesterday. Do yourself a favor and find it on the airline website to prove it is true. JTommyZ (talk) 13:26, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JTommyZ Please follow Wikipedia:No original research before reporting someone as a sockpuppet, you do NOT provide ANY reliable reference at all. And (I think) it seems similar with Jellywings19.--Jellylovers (talk) 13:32, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JTommyZ: I already provide reliable references above (at 11:25 and 11:41), other users can open those references easily.--Jellylovers (talk) 13:36, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Remove this one. The fact that they have actually responded in any way, and their use of an edit summary, both things rather uncharacteristic of Jellywings19, has made me reconsider, and I now have some significant doubts that they are Jellywings19. If they are, well, we will find out for certain soon enough, if not, all well and good. Mako001 (talk) 12:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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30 December 2021

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Very extensive overlap with past socks and they edit same sections here, [[3]] [[4]] and here at Destinations [[5]] and here at fleet [[6]]. [[7]] and [[8]] they editing sometimes with mobile and sometimes not probably to hide their pattern. See here the overlap https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Svenurbana&users=JTommyZ&users=MariaEDAS&users=Sarah+Carvalho&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki Shadow4dark (talk) 02:16, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ho boy! Jumping straight back into the Indonesian airports. But I don't think that this is Sarah Carvalho, for a few reasons. First, they never leave a summary. Sarah leaves one on occasion, anf after this many edits, if it was Sarah, I would expect to have seen an edit summary. I also don't see any US politics edits, or reporting of users. The interest in Indonesian airports seems much too narrow to be Sarah, who does focus on these, but has other interests too. They also seem to be adding unsourced content, Sarah and Co. seem to at least (mostly) remove it. If you want to know who I think they are connected to though, try Jellywings19.
  • Never leaves a summary: CHECK
  • Very narrow interest in destinations for Indonesian airports: CHECK
  • Adds unsourced content: CHECK
As far as I can see, this is Jellywings. I think CU would be useful, to see how they dodged Drmies rangeblocks.
I wouldn't be too surprised at the User Compare data, as Sarah and Jelly can be hard to tell apart that way, in fact Sarah seems to remove some of Jelly's unsourced additions, and seems to hunt down the Jellywings socks, so they often end up on the same pages.
But there is one more thing to see whose sock they are, I've sent them an SPI template. If they come here and plead their case, it's not Jellywings19, who never actually enhages in any way. Pinging @Drmies: who may want to see if Jelly dodged their rangeblock. Mako001 (C)  (T) (The Alternate Mako) 12:37, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This on the other hand, likely is Sarah. I mentioned above how Sarah seems to hunt down and revert Jellywings socks, this IP is doing exactly that. Has followed our suspected sock around reverting them, see Special:Contributions/36.69.154.23. (I also happen to know that this IP is on a range likely used by Sarah). Mako001 (C)  (T) (The Alternate Mako) 13:44, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And after going through their contributions, this is quacking like a duck, to be specific, a duck made of Jelly. 🦆 Mako001 (C)  (T) (The Alternate Mako) 14:25, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that Drmies. I also note that despite making edits after the SPI notice was placed on their page, they never showed up here, or even commented anywhere. Like Jellywings and Co., they are totally unresponsive. Mako001 (C)  (T) (The Alternate Mako) 16:20, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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8 February 2022

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This user has been doing a disruptive edits at Soekarno–Hatta International Airport, a similar edits to this user and other sock puppet users. I already informed on their talk page but continue to disrupt several airport pages. Cornerstone2.0 (talk) 10:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. The nonsense username and editing pattern is classic Jellywings. Main things that stand out: makes unsourced changes to Indonesian aviation topics; never uses an edit summary; refuses to communicate or respond in any way. The favourite articles seem to be Citilink and Super Air Jet, both of which have seen activity by almost all of Jellywings19's socks. This user has edited both, in a similar manner. Then there's all the rest of their edits, and their overall pattern says more than individual diffs could ever do. 🦆📢. It isn't Sarah Carvalho either, as they would've taken someone to a noticeboard or trolled their talkpage by now. 🙄

Behavioural evidence seems enough for an indef to me. Checkuser for sleepers and to help with the rangeblock. (and as a bonus, it sometimes turns up other interesting stuff with this sockfarm, as they seem to have a close connection to another sockfarm, on sports topics, likely operated by the same person.) They seem to be really persistent, they've had about three or four rangeblocks so far I think. I've left a notice on their talkpage, and we'll see if anything happens. Since this is obvious sockpuppetry, I've reverted their edits as clear block evasion. Jellywings19's edits aren't much (or any) value anyway (seems to have some CIR issues and issues understanding the whole "you must provide reliable sources" thing), so I've just derped the lot. Mako001 (C)  (T)  10:56, 8 February 2022 (UTC) edited 11:38, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The block log of Svenurbana needs update. Shadow4dark (talk) 06:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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17 February 2022

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Same editing as the previous socks at Soekarno–Hatta International Airport. Rzxz0839 (talk) 07:40, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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20 March 2022

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Yet another DUCK. Same interest in Indonesian aviation, adds unsourced content, never uses an edit summary, nonsensical username. Checkuser for sleepers. Can this be 3X tagged too. Identical pattern to the accounts from the archive. Can Soekarno Hatta Airport be upgraded to EC protection now? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 09:10, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Girth Summit: Thanks for upgrading the protection on that. The article seems to be the "base" article for this user, with all other articles they edit being related to it. Changes they make to other articles often require a corresponding change to be made to this article too. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 14:38, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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17 April 2022

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Another WP:DUCK making similar edits to previous socks by adding Garuda Cargo to numerous airport article where airline do not operate. Rzxz0839 (talk) 15:05, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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07 May 2022

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Back at it again, same editing pattern as the socks from the /Archive. Clear WP:DUCK, with similar nonsense username. Checkuser requested as it turns up sleepers often enough to be useful. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 06:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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22 May 2022

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Another duck, contribution pattern is identical to socks from the archive, adding unsourced content to articles about Indonesian aviation topics. Never uses an edit summary, has a (semi) nonsense username. Also began editing within 48 hours of the last sock being blocked. Checkuser for sleepers. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 07:53, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just realised what one of their edits was, adding a pp-sock template to an unprotected page. That would suggest that they are definitely aware of what is going on here. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 08:27, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If diffs would make it easier for someone less familiar with the pattern characteristic of Jellywings19 to hear the quacking, I'll give a couple of examples,
Diff comparison 1
Blocked CU confirmed sock:[9]
Unitedports:[10]
Diff comparison 2
Unitedports:[11]
Blocked CU confirmed sock:[12]
Does this help? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 04:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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27 June 2022

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WP:duck adding back his older sock edits [[13]] [[14]] Shadow4dark (talk) 05:22, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also high overlap with past socks [[15]] Shadow4dark (talk) 06:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk - to compare to previous accounts and check for others. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 09:14, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very close technical match to socks in archive from May onwards. Combined with editing, I'm calling it confirmed. I don't see any other accounts jumping out at me, but the IP ranges are wide - come back if you see any other suspicious behaviour. Girth Summit (blether) 10:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

20 July 2022

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New account, created after last block. Like last sock Osakatokyo, they:

  1. edit on id.wikipedia.org
  2. Use the mobile editor.
  3. Don't use edit summaries.
  4. And with 45 edits with the new account, compared to 43 edits on the old account, overlap on most of their edited articles (11 articles). Pikavoom Talk 07:51, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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09 August 2022

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Yet another Jellywings19 DUCK. Checkuser for sleepers as they sometimes have a few going at once. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 08:16, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and did I mention that they started editing just 2 days after the last one was blocked? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 08:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Firefly:Thanks for the block on that one, it'll be interesting to see what CU finds anyway, as this account was somewhat less active than usual.
Would it be worthwhile 3X tagging the Jellywings socks? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 11:45, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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11 September 2022

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Getting cleverer, now using instagram for a source, rather than just adding totally unsourced stuff. However, the editing pattern is very familiar, and has visited all their old haunts, besides the XCP ones. Same sort of semi-nonsense (autogenerated?) username. Restoring sock edits: this userknown sock this userknown sock. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 10:07, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a bit since a sleeper check was done. They're also quite active on id.wiki. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 10:09, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It may be worthwhile looking at protecting (or upgrading protection on) some of their favourite haunts, as their behaviour is rarely noticed quickly, as not many users look out for it, and one that did has recently had to be indeffed. When running through the first page of edit history of some of their favourite pages, probably about 40% of all edits were made by Jellywings19 socks. However, as it is a low intensity issue, protection is often declined.
A possible alternative, since they aren't exactly hungry for attention, would be to go down the "official LTA" route, to get more eyes on the situation, but this really doesn't seem appropriate. Anyway, enough of my musings. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 10:43, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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22 September 2022

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Yet again. Back to some pages that they had been editing with the last sockpuppet. Might do to protect these pages, particularly the lion/batik air pages, as a massive proportion of edits on some of these pages are from Jellywings19 socks. CheckUser probably won't be necessary, as they don't seem to use sleepers these days, but couldn't hurt nevertheless. They're active on id.wiki too, like many other Jellywings19 socks. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 06:37, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, no "smoking gun" edit restorations this time (caught them quite early compared to other times) but the targeted articles and general editing pattern, (absense of edit summary, the types of edits made, the absense of any refs) make it quite clear that this is definitely them. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 15:27, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The CU data isn't conclusive on its own - they're using the same ranges that previous socks have used, but a different user agent. The editing pattern, in terms of articles and the nature of the edits, convinces me however - blocking as suspected, based on a combination of CU and behavioural evidence. I'm not going to take a stab at working out whether any pages need protecting, please request at RfPP with the specific pages if you feel it necessary. Girth Summit (blether) 16:20, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

15 October 2022

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Another DUCK. Back with the same articles, same editing pattern, but a new username style, since they seem to have figured out that the "random" username generator gave a very good pattern. As usual, they've stayed away for a week or two, then returned.

Some diffs for those who aren't as familiar with the case and editing pattern of this one:

Restores an older sock and makes some more ambitions changes in the same edit: [16][17]

Very similar changes: [18][19]

Manually reverts my reversion of sock edits: [20][21]

Also edits on id.wiki, as other Jellywings socks often do.

Checkuser probably won't be too helpful, as they seem to have stopped using more than one account at a time.

Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 05:07, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, in semi-related trivia, the oldest account of Jellywings is actually Bot123789 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). It's probably not worthwhile moving it there though. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 06:40, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Can I make a request that we please avoid remaning this. The oldest account is not particularly memorable in terms of username, and only made a handful of edits, whereas Jellywings19 was much more active. It'd be more trouble than it is worth to move the case. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 07:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please keep Jellywings19 as main case name. The first one is not much known and confusing. Shadow4dark (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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11 November 2022

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Back in QUACK. Same pages, same MO, same edits. Seems to be trying a bit harder with the usernames. Some good diffs here. [22][23] the similarities aren't hard to spot there. The next one was a restoration of a sock edit, less than 2 hours before page protection expired. [24][25] They also did a similar thing on Super Air Jet, editing it shortly after EC protection expired. Can I suggest reprotecting the recently expired pages for 1 year with ECP? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 13:23, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've requested some protection on a few pages at RfPP. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 15:11, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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12 November 2022

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Was alerted by DatGuy that this one had popped up to restore several of the last socks edits. See [26][27][28]. Obvious DUCK, no checkuser obviously. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 00:54, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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28 December 2022

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Not quite as sure about this one as the others, some editing patterns don't quite match up, but that may be due to trying to get to Extended Confirmed status. On the other hand, the interests are very close, fleets and destinations in Indonesian aviation related topics, the article overlap is very strong, the near total lack of edit summaries, the presence on id.wiki, all make me a bit suspicious, and then there is the fact that the account was created within a week of Jellywings last block. In addition, there was this: Edit by IP sock from the Archive:[29] Edit by Kendariy: [30] CheckUser seems to be useful for Jellywings19, and this time it's sorta going to be necessary to make a connection if it exists. In addition, this is now a cross wiki thing, so any future socks should have glocks requested. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 03:08, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this pair of edits is alarmingly similar:[31][32] Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 09:46, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And another restoration of a sock edit. [33][34] Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 10:31, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that was interesting. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 04:29, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Glock requested. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 04:48, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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05 January 2023

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Obvious DUCK. Restoringsockedits. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 12:04, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And I've finally figured out what the CUs have presumably known (but couldn't act on, because privacy) for over a year: The (rather large) IP range that Jellywings is on. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 12:48, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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13 January 2023

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Similar edits to previously blocked IP: last IP [35] [36] [37], this IP [38] [39] [40]. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:30, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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14 January 2023

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The listed IPs are a group of Jellywings19 DUCK IPs, who have been restoring sock edits (basically all edits marked "manual revert" in the contribs for the range), messing with destinations relating to Indonesian aviation topics, and generally making a nuisance of themselves. Since Kendariy was blocked, they have been editing using IPs on this range and another larger range, but I'll keep that second group up my sleeve for now.

There are two groups of edits on this range, one is related to Association football, the other is classic Jellywings. The football edits however are also from a sockpuppeteer (who may or may not be the same person as Jellywings19) several of whose socks can be found in the /Archive of this case, particularly the first couple of cases.

I am thinking that giving 114.79.0.0/21 a month off will be necessary. I'll also make some protection requests at RFPP. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 23:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Note: Most IPs here have not been recently used, one is also blocked, but I've listed them here to give an idea of the exact IPs being used on this range, as the /21 range is the real target here) Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 23:40, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was a bit hesitant to suggest a 1 year block, as there was no previous block on the range, but I would call that a good and reasonable block. Pity the other major range can't get the same treatment. Thanks for sorting the page protection. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 05:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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26 January 2023

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Duck. Back again making the same sort of edits on the same article. Still no edit summaries. Also edits on id.wiki. account was created shortly after block of their last IP range, see the Archive. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 06:04, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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26 February 2023

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Is it permissible to use diffs from another wiki to prove a connection between accounts on en.wiki?

1.(Edit:[41], Restore:[42])

2.(Edit:[43], Restore:[44])

3.(Edit:[45], Restore:[46])

4.(Edit:[47], Restore:[48])

Would this be permissible evidence to get a local checkuser on User:Dewades and User:Babunza. One of the edits restored an edit from an IP range which is listed in the archive as being connected to Jellywings. The smoking guns aren't quite as good on en.wiki, so this set of diffs is probably easier to show the connection. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 01:47, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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26 March 2023

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This user showed up a few days after the last sock was blocked, Putranugrahaz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). They have the same area of interest, also edit heavily on id.wiki, and when combined with the below restoration of a sock edit, is plenty enough to make me think that this isn't a coincidence.

Sock edit Restoration of sock edit

Jellylovers has also noticed some similarities between Andreweys and other Jellywings19 socks, namely the fact that both have imitated their style of edit summary.

@Girth Summit: - alerting CU familiar with the case Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 00:30, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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10 April 2023

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06 May 2023

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Same username pattern as last sock, Defan SU, same interests. The mass addition of timezone information is something that has been done by one of Jellywings socks on idwiki. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 23:47, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also: Defan WU was created on 30 March. On 1 April Krisna PU was created and Defan WU stops editing. On 3 April Defan WU resumes editing, and Krisna PU stops. On 10 April Defan WU was blocked, and on 11 April, Krisna PU resumes editing.
Can we also get glocks on these two. (Defan and Krisna) Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 00:36, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Miko Pratama Sunjoyo (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki): also rings alarm bells, but not quite conclusive yet due to lack of edits. Definitely do a full sleeper check this time around. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 14:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Krisna PU and Miko Pratama Sunjoyo are  Confirmed to each other, and to previous socks. Blocked, requesting locks for these and for Defan SU. Don't see any others, but they use a bunch of different ranges to it's possible I might have missed some - come back if you have further suspicions. Girth Summit (blether) 10:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

12 May 2023

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New account restoring sock edits: [49][50].

Edits in several favourite articles. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 10:43, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Girth Summit: I have further suspicions. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 10:45, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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21 May 2023

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Back again. Brand new account restoring sock edits. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 06:42, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@UtherSRG: Did you intend to tag this one? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 22:33, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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04 June 2023

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We were getting about due for a new Jellywings sock, and sure enough we have Danviro, right on schedule. Brand new user in topic area, similar sort of pattern of username to what I've come to expect, going straight back to favourite articles like Batik Air Malaysia. We also have a direct restoration of a sock edit: [51] Jellywings also seems to have noticed that region articles also cover Indonesian aviation too, so we have edits to South Sulawesi, where this comparison of revisions shows that the only difference between a known Jellywings sock's version and Danviro's is a few square brackets. Also edits on id.wiki too. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 02:09, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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15 August 2023

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Like sockpuppets User:Andreweys, User:Defan SU and User:Osakatokyo, this editor has a focus on Asian airports, especially moving articles around to different page titles. See the page history of Pattimura International Airport as an example of page moves that have been repeated by different sockpuppets. Liz Read! Talk! 19:08, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently while I was filing this, CambridgeBayWeather blocked the editor for disruptive editing. Still, I'll leave this report here (and untag the Checkuser request) so it's on the record as I suspect this editor was a sockpuppet. Liz Read! Talk! 19:16, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Liz: Indonesian airports, to be precise. This latest interest in moving pages around like this is looking like it may end with virtually every page in the topic area move-protected. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 12:46, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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19 August 2023

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Back on one of Jellywing's favourite articles, Batik Air Malaysia. Has been editing in between two blocks of edits by another sock, which is something that Jellywings did previously (see Archive). User name is also rather Jellywings-y. Has mostly edited on id.wiki, where they are a clear Jellywings DUCK. Checkuser because they have had sleepers or other accounts running simultaneously lately. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 10:41, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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It is interesting that you found Blackman Jr. this one is similar to earlier football socks from the archive such as King of Noesantara. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 02:15, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given that Blackman Jr. is confirmed as Jellywings, and since they have made numerous articles across several topics, should these be dealt with somehow? It was noted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tumi (ancient language) that they have a history of making dodgy articles. Also, should Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JassenMarang17 should be merged here? Several socks tagged as CU confirmed to JassenMarang17 are also CU confirmed to Jellywings19. If not, then Blackman Jr. should probably be moved to JassenMarang17's SPI. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 03:01, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've considered it a bit more, Blackman Jr. should be moved to JassenMarang17, and I don't think that JassenMarang17 and Jellywings19 are the same person, but are probably siblings or something. There are also hints that User:Eiskrahablo might be linked to Blackman Jr., particularly at Bawean people. Blackman Jr. is not linked to User:Eiskrahablo.Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 05:16, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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04 October 2023

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This account has show interest in some same topic areas as User:Blackman Jr. such as the football topics. Has recreated pages almost identically to the blocked sock, such as Persidom Dompu. Looks like a duck to me, of Blackman Jr. This case could also be moved under Blackman Jr. Seawolf35 (talk) 16:03, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The CU data says  Possible. Looking briefly at the editor overlap, I don't get the impression this is anything more than two people interested in Indonesian football, which is probably a lot of people. And as for the recreation of Persidom Dompu being similar to a previous deleted version, it's a football stub with a standard infobox, so of course it's going to be similar. I'll let somebody else make a final call, but I don't see this as being actionable. RoySmith (talk) 16:28, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I re-checked as I was investigating a later report and this seems  Unlikely to me. Closing with no action. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:17, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09 October 2023

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This editor recreated the article on Ali Nouri Zangir with nearly the same text as the version of the article created by Blackman Jr. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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23 October 2023

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Same sorts of articles (Asian airports) as previously, and tag-teaming (i.e. both editing the same articles) as previously. Plus removal of protection tags by Evanleof. This diff involving a previously tagged sockpuppet and Fadhlansaputra has plenty of similarities. I blocked the accounts but a checkuser could be useful for sleepers. Graham87 (talk) 15:36, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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06 November 2023

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This account created the page Akhrorbek Uktamov which was recreated by another confirmed sock, User:Ree11, I don't know how similar the pages are but it was fairly recent that it was recreated and deleted G5.

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26 November 2023

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Similar page interests as some previous socks, including Ree11, Alyz23, and Rojalee. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:53, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Additional information needed - @Significa liberdade: In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
  1. At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
  2. At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
  3. In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. Vanjagenije (talk) 00:10, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Vanjagenije -- I'll withdraw my suspicion. I apologize for wasting your time. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:18, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

27 December 2023

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The first single edit of @The Pict's was on 14 Oct in 2023–24 Liga 2 (Indonesia), which was among the last pages edited by the sock account User:Ree11 before it got blocked on 15 Oct.

@The Pict's then resumed editing in November a few weeks after the sock User:Rojalee was blocked.

The edit range is also diagnostic: it's mostly about football, but also languages and socio-political topics. The latter with a heavy CIR-problem. Although no editor has a monopoly on cluelessness, some of @The Pict's's edits remind me strongly of the sock User:Blackman Jr.. E.g. in Tagalog language, they literally invented a dialect based on a news report that solely states that people on the Indonesian island Miangas are proficient in that language[56]. Based on a similar misreading, @Blackman Jr. had invented the language Vanimo Malay. Austronesier (talk) 17:04, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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20 January 2024

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Strong behavioral match with earlier socks like Blackman Jr. (talk · contribs) and The Pict's (talk · contribs). All three have prolifically edited articles related to football in Indonesia. Note the first edits of both @Jeff van Timor and @The Pict's were in 2023–24 Liga 2 (Indonesia). This is of course trivial, but they further share an interest in the topic range of Indonesian regional languages and ethnic groups, often creating spurious articles based on misreadings of sources.

E.g. @Jeff van Timor has created Bajo Wuring people supposedly describing a distinct ethnic group, whereas actually the sources simply talk about Bajo people residing in a village called Wuring. @Blackman Jr. did the same when creating Poso Pesisir people.

Another diagnostic piece is Maumere Malay. This article was translated (or quite obviously, machine translated) from the Indonesian version which also was created by @Jeff van Timor (btw with copying entire paragraphs verbatim from the sources). @Blackman Jr. did the same in Orang Pulo language (the idWP version was created by a different sock) which has been G5'ed in the meantime, but I still remember its poor shape.

Note that a parallel SPI has been opened that also involves @Jeff van Timor (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Chilmy23#20_January_2024). Husada28 (talk · contribs) and Chilmy23 (talk · contribs) appear to be less high-brow football-only editors, so IMO the behavioral match is pretty weak. – Austronesier (talk) 11:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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10 February 2024

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Apparently another Jellywings19 sock, returned shortly after last sock Batas Senja (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was blocked. Though not mentioned in the archive, User:Blablubbs apparently noticed what was going on. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 08:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Confirmed to Batas Senja.  Blocked and tagged, Redirect arrow Global lock(s) requested. I am familiar with this case but in the future please provide actual evidence. Spicy (talk) 12:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

31 March 2024

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 Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me

Strong behavioral match with earlier socks like Blackman Jr. (talk · contribs), The Pict's (talk · contribs) and Jeff van Timor (talk · contribs). The new editor has the same range of interests (football, ethnic groups and regional languages) as earlier socks.

@Super Hylos has stayed quite low profile in the beginning, but has burst into a higher level of familiar activity during the last week (including undiscussed/unexplained page moves and new articles with poor content/sourcing).

I've been suspicious of this new account for a while, but the recreation of Bawean language with its use of poor sources (Facebook, buzz news sites) and poor grasp of the few good sources leaves me without any doubt about the sockmaster. Austronesier (talk) 17:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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07 August 2024

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See Commons. ClumsyOwlet (talk) 17:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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29 September 2024

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Although this sock account hasn't done any football-related edit yet, the link to the sockmaster becomes clear from two pieces of behavioral evidence:

1. Cross-wiki evidence. On Indonesian WP, the second edit of@ AlleandroX[57] was to visit the article id:Bahasa Melayu Palu created by the confirmed sockpuppet User:Super Hylos. Other "revisited" articles are id:Daftar fam Papua, created by confirmed sock User:Blackman Jr., and id:Bahasa Jawa Serang, which was not created, but heavily edited by multiple socks of @Jellywings19.

2. The creation of an article about a "language" based on a single paper that actually describes code-mixing in a multiethnic community. AlleandroX turns this into a "Para-Arabic/mixed language". The creation of spurious languages based on incompetent misreadings of sources is a recurrent theme with the sockmaster, as I have described before here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jellywings19/Archive#27_December_2023

As I always say: "no editor has a monopoly on cluelessness", but this type of cluelessness is very much a Jellywings19 thing. Austronesier (talk) 20:51, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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