Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shubhamkhurana67/Archive
Shubhamkhurana67
- Shubhamkhurana67 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
20 November 2020
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- ShaiksKings (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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The suspected sock was registered a few days after the master was blocked only to recreate their deleted article Draft:Pratik Gauri. GSS 💬 13:51, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
[edit]- CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk - The deleted and recreated versions of Draft:Pratik Gauri are different enough in detail yet similar enough in overall structure to make me think this is more likely independent UPEs working from the same script, but let's see what CU says. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:29, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- Checkuser note: Though the original account was only blocked on 11 October, they have made no edits since July so they are stale. I don't see any way to investigate this except on behavior. EdJohnston (talk) 04:48, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Clerk note: My original hunch of competing UPEs still seems like the most reasonable explanation. Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:37, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
17 December 2020
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- NomanSiddiqui00 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tusharrastogi101 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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NomanSiddiqui00 was registered a few days back, first made some random edits and then created Pratik Gauri (entrepreneur) a few days after Draft:Pratik Gauri was speedily deleted under G7. Looks like the same person trying to recover their work. GSS 💬 13:33, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well this sounds like a well-planned strategy as to how the previous creator first requested the draft:Pratik Gauri be deleted under G7 after it was rejected multiple times and then on December 1st they blanked their user talk page possibly to get rid of the search result for Pratik Gauri on wiki. NomanSiddiqui00 registered a few days after a few days user talk:ShaiksKings was blanked and they recreated the same article directly in the main namespace under a different title to game the page watchers. GSS 💬 08:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- This is interesting, on November 25th ShaiksKings in their comment at user talk:TheAafi claimed that
If not WP:GNG, then WP:ANYBIO or WP:BASIC is being met by him
and today NomanSiddiqui00 made the same claim at talk:Pratik Gauri (entrepreneur) thatThe topic does satisfy WP:ANYBIO if not WP:GNG
. They both believe that if not WP:GNG then the topic does satisfy WP:ANYBIO so since they are both editing from the same geolocation, interested in the same topic and having the same thought, this looks like the same person to me. GSS 💬 08:51, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Also, please note that most of the sources in the current version of "Pratik Gauri (entrepreneur)" have the access-date from October 2020, which I believe were directly copied from Draft:Pratik Gauri which was created by ShaiksKings on November 1, 2020. GSS 💬 18:40, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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Nothing of the sort, the only reason i created this page using entrepreneur in brackets was because when i first tried to create the page as Pratik Gauri it gave me a warning, so was a bit confused and wanted to start it as a fresh article. And i saw many pages created that way (using brackets before title). If this was not supposed to be created as Pratik Gauri (entrepreneur), i apologise about that and would try to rectify or probably recreate under the same title (Pratik Gauri). And i am still firm on my point that i have no connections at all with any of those persons you highlighted and not sure why they asked for their works to be deleted. If you still want to delete the page, then go ahead but they are not me.NomanSiddiqui00 (talk) 11:40, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
@GSS, If my opinion or statement matches with someone else's does not necessarily have to be the same person. Its not like Wikipedia policies or guidelines are meant for certain people and others can't refer to them. These guidelines can be viewed or referred to by everyone to support their statements or claims. I have gone through biographies thoroughly and i think this fits in at WP:ANYBIO. Therefore, i mentioned in my earlier comment that the subject meets criteria described at WP:ANYBIO.NomanSiddiqui00 (talk) 12:23, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
@GSS, yes because i copied some of content including sources from other platforms which quite look like Wiki websites (wiki mirror) and therefore it contains old access dates. Secondly, i have been working on this page over the last many days which is another reason that the access dates are backdated. I also noticed that @DGG: deleted the page as G11 which stands for "Unambiguous advertising or promotion." I will rework on it and try to stay as neutral as possible. However, i don't agree with DGG on G5 as i am not all connected with those users. I request all of you to AGF while i have already denied i don't belong to them.NomanSiddiqui00 (talk) 11:56, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- @NomanSiddiqui00:
other platforms which quite look like Wiki websites (wiki mirror)
which platform? please provide a link to that page. GSS 💬 12:06, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
@GSS: I am not being able to paste the link here as it says "The following link has triggered a protection filter."NomanSiddiqui00 (talk) 14:08, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
I have created a shortened URL using a tool. Here is the link : shorturl.at/qEVW2.NomanSiddiqui00 (talk) 14:10, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
In addition to above link, you also need to click on the link provided under "references section" of the Wikitia article for Pratik Gauri that says "This article "Pratik Gauri" is from Wikipedia". I will not beat around the bush and straightaway come to the point. I found his bio on Wikitia as well Everybody wiki. If you scroll down to the bottom of Wikitia article you will find a link to Pratik's Wikipedia page. That's where i had clicked too when i first visited the page and it took me to a Wiki page from where i picked some content and references. I don't know who had created that page. and gathering content from there does not make that person.NomanSiddiqui00 (talk) 14:38, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- @NomanSiddiqui00: The link you provided above is not opening please provide the full URL. GSS 💬 14:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Wait a second, you first claimed that you took that sources and contents from websites that look like Wikipedia and now you are claiming that you took those references and contents from the previously deleted draft. Who you are trying to fool? GSS 💬 14:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
[edit]- CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk - ShaiksKings (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) from GSS's previous report is still fresh enough for comparison with NomanSiddiqui00 who clearly gamed ACPERM. Cabayi (talk) 15:31, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Possible. Same country and geolocation, but different user agents. That's all I can really give you unfortunately... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Clerk note: Based on the evidence above, plus some other behavioral observations I've made (ask me off-wiki), I'm reasonably sure NomanSiddiqui00 is the same person as ShaiksKings (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) (from the archives), but as I noted earlier, I don't think Shubhamkhurana67 is the same person. Tusharrastogi101 is pretty obviously the same as NomanSiddiqui00. On the off chance they're not socks, then certainly UPE, so I'm not going to lose any sleep over a possible mis-identification. I'm going to leave them all here, but future clerks should consider whether this case should be split if additional socks show up. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:39, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Blocked and tagged. Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:40, 19 December 2020 (UTC)