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Turkspasha
- Turkspasha (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
20 December 2015
[edit]- Suspected sockpuppets
- Arda Arpaçaylı (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Very similar edits and behavior in Yaldā. Started by sockmaster on Dec 17 [1], then same edits by sockpuppet [2] and again by sockmaster [3]. Possibility of good hand bad hand behavior. 188.158.101.80 (talk) 04:17, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]- Check declined by a checkuser The evidence to run a check is not very strong here. It's just a possible that it's two different individuals with similar interests. Mike V • Talk 00:33, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
27 January 2016
[edit]- Suspected sockpuppets
- Promopersia (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Iranpabarja (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Kavanim (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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All of these accounts have similar behavior and edits on article Ghormeh sabzi:
- Master: [4]
- Socks: Turkspasha restored edits by possible sockmaster [5], [6]. After those edits reverted by other editors, two new accounts appeared and restored previous edits again. Iranpabarja [7] and Kavanim [8]. Also they have very similar edits on other articles. For example, Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ => Master [9], [10], [11], [12] and sock [13]. Promopersia, Turkspasha and Kavanim are involved in Azerbaijanis and Azerbaijani language. Zyma (talk) 09:26, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]- Promopersia (talk · contribs) is Stale. Kavanim (talk · contribs) and Iranpabarja (talk · contribs) are Confirmed to each other and extremely Likely to be Turkspasha (talk · contribs). I found another account, Tarofnadarim (talk · contribs), who is Confirmed as Turkspasha.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:50, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
- Socks blocked and tagged. Closing. Vanjagenije (talk) 20:17, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
02 April 2016
[edit]- Suspected sockpuppets
- Shabkar23 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Compare edits on Ghormeh sabzi [14], [15] with previous blocked socks: User:Iranpabarja [16], User:Kavanim [17]. Zyma (talk) 03:59, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]- CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk - compare this account to those two previous socks (Iranpabarja and Kavanim). Vanjagenije (talk) 13:25, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- The following accounts are Confirmed:
- Persianimmortal2 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Shabkar23 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Shabkhiz23 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Farsiboy334 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Firtinakuzey1 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tehrnaiha45 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Iranianpasha2 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Perspolis12 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Shab2012 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- All blocked.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:49, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Tagged, closing. Courcelles (talk) 18:52, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
13 July 2016
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- Ewr23434 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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It seems Ewr23434 is just another sockpuppet of Turkspasha. Targeted Ghormeh sabzi again. Compare his edit [18] with previous blocked socks. [19], [20]. Wario-Man (talk) 11:41, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]- The technical data of past accounts is stale, but I've compared the results of Ewr23434 to the CU logs and I'm comfortable enough to say that there's a connection. I've blocked Ewr23434 as a proven sock. Mike V • Talk 17:27, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
14 July 2016
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- Farsi24rx (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Ewr23434 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) - added for comparison purposes
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Username is within the same range, target articles are the same,[21][22][23][24][25] not using edit summaries just like the sockmaster + previously CU blocked socks. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]The similarities are striking and in my opinion show all the signs of WP:DUCK. For example:
- "Azerbaijani Turks" Turkspasha [26], Farsi24rx [27] [28]
- Adding/removing a [[Persian language|Persian]] tag: Turkspasha [29] [30], Farsi24rx [31]
- Adding/removing Persian language translations: Turkspasha [32] [33], Farsi24rx [34], [35]
The edits all share the same characteristics of inserting language tags relating to Iran/Persia, or changing Iran to read as Persia or vice versa and basic edits around usage Iran/Persia/Azerbijan. In 99.9% of all cases almost no content is added. Also, as noted above, the edits share the characteristics of having no edit summaries and are all mobile edits. Both exhibit the same style of grammar and diction whenever they wrote anything into articles and finally, Turkspasha learned how to use {{cite book on 20th Jan 2016 and the supposedly new editor Farsi24rx uses complex editting techniques on their 4th edit and also uses the same citing style from the start of their editing. Also, I've no conflict of interest in this topic area and I'm commenting as a neutral third party. -- HighKing++ 15:59, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
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The username is similar to on of the previous blocked sockpuppets Farsiboy334 (talk · contribs). Plus, I used Editor Interaction Analyser and Farsi24rx's targets and behavior are similar to sockmaster and blocked socks. --Wario-Man (talk) 06:15, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Why this SPI case is still open? --Wario-Man (talk) 04:58, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]- Additional information needed @LouisAragon: We need much more behavioral evidence to consider a check. After all, I could say that this user has the same target article. ;) It would be helpful to show common types of contributions, styles of editing, or unique aspects that highlights their similarities. Mike V • Talk 23:18, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Clerk endorsed - Please, compare this account to Ewr23434, the only non-stale sock. Vanjagenije (talk) 08:49, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
- Possible. PhilKnight (talk) 01:16, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- I rechecked the Farsi24x account based on recent edits made and they have now edited from the same IP as previous socks, making it extremely Likely to be a Turkspasha sock when combined with the behavioural cross over. I've blocked and tagged the account accordingly.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
20 January 2017
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- Kuzeyeshgh (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Another easy one.
- Very same target articles
- Never using edit summaries,[36] alike the sockmaster and the socks who are in the archives.[37]
- Focus lays solely on Iran/Azerbaijan/Turkey, alike the sockmaster and the socks in the archives
- Low edit count, but already a significant overlap with the sockmaster, which the Editor Interaction Analyser confirms.
- Never using sources, alike the sockmaster + socks in the archives.
- LouisAragon (talk) 21:22, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]- Confirmed along with Azerisarbaz12 and likely sleeper Sinanakvil. All blocked and tagged.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:32, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
15 July 2018
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
[edit]- Sharaqw1 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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- When the last sweep was conducted (20 January 2017, see archives), "Sharaqw1" hadn't edited for more than half a year, so he was stale. After the sweep was conducted, "Sharaqw1" magically came back to live, and started editing some ~ 18 days after, on 8 Feb 2017, with the very same editorial pattern as Turkspasha et al.;
- Same obsession with Azeri/Azerbaijan/Iran/Turkey articles
- Says that "Parsi" is the original endonym of "Persian",[38] similar to the sockmaster.[39]
- Alike the socks in the archives, "Sharaqw1" is obsessed with changing well-sourced content (without edit summary), in favor of an Azeri POV.[40]
- Alike the sockmaster and CU blocked socks, "Sharaqw1" doesn't use summaries
- Though "Sharaqw1" has made relatively few edits, the EIA shows a high degree of overlap with the sockmaster ("Turkspasha") and CU blocked sock "Kuzeyeshgh", including on numerous very-low profile Azeri/Azerbaijan/Iran/Turkey articles. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:34, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- The added IP's have the exact same editorial pattern and they all geolocate to the same spot. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:34, 15 July 2018 (UTC) LouisAragon (talk) 17:34, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]This case is Stale. However, Sharaqw1 is editing from the same location using the same ISP as previous CU-confirmed socks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:08, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- Sock blocked and tagged. Sro23 (talk) 04:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
08 November 2021
[edit]Suspected sockpuppets
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Same geolocation (Michigan, US), same obsession with Azeri/Azerbaijan/Iran/Turkey articles, same habit (alike the sockmaster and CU blocked socks) to not use edit summaries. Has reinstated edits earlier by the sockmaster & co too.[41]-[42]-[43]-[44] They are being disruptive, so I'm not only adding this for the record, but also asking for this IP to be blocked. - LouisAragon (talk) 13:40, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Tamzin:
- Promopersia (CU blocked): added "Azeri cuisine" to the Kuku (food) article[45]
- IP 68.49.61.21: added "Azerbaijani cuisine" to the Kuku (food) article[46]
- Turkspasha (CU blocked sockmaster): added a link to "Iranian Azerbaijanis" at the Fitilieh programme protests in Iran (2015) article[47]
- IP 68.49.61.21: added a link to "Iranian Azeri" at the Fitilieh programme protests in Iran (2015) article[48]
- In addition, he's the EIA.[53]-[54] - LouisAragon (talk) 00:53, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]This case is being reviewed by Tamzin as part of her training as a clerk. Please allow her to process the entire case without interference. You may pose any questions or concerns either on her talk page or on this page.
- Additional information needed: "My people make this food" and "This person is a member of my people" are pretty common things to see from people making ethnic POV edits. I'm not sure how many Iranian Azeris there are in Michigan, but I'm guessing it's more than one. @LouisAragon: Could you please provide some diffs showing similar behavior, rather than just a similar POV? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 02:19, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Louis, for your fast response. If this were a case involving multiple accounts, I would request a check and defer a decision to then, but since CU cannot be used here, I'm forced to proceed with a bit less confidence than I'd like. My conclusion is that while pro-Iranian-Azeri POV-pushing is not distinctive, the distribution of pages to engage in it on (combined EIA) is. The Tachin diffs demonstrate this, but what really stands out to me is the edits to Mehrdad, a page that gets all of 408 pageviews per month. Promopersia made only 243 edits, but 4 were to that page. Past sox Farsi24rx and Kuzeyeshgh both did as well [55] [56]. Based on that overlap, I am sufficiently confident that this is a Turkspasha sock as to request a block. Edits on this IP go back to 20 July, so Awaiting administrative action: Please block 68.49.61.21 with expiry 4 months (anon. only, account creation disabled). -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 01:53, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Done. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Administrator note IP blocked by RoySmith. clpo13(talk) 02:54, 15 November 2021 (UTC)