Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Diyako

The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

User:Diyako

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Diyako (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - later known as Xebat
Xebat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

D.Kurdistani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
71.222.81.30 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - confirmed D.Kurdistani
71.222.103.144 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - confirmed D.Kurdistani
71.222.66.184 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - confirmed D.Kurdistani

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-- Cat ^chi? 19:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Background

Firstly some background on who Diyako was. Diyako is a user who was banned by arbcom for a year (which has expired recently) for engaging in personal attacks, revet warring and other kinds of disruption such as repetively {{prod}}ding Iranian people claiming they don't exist. At some point Diyako registered a new username under "Xebat" he announced it as his new account. Diyako had one "possible" sockpuppet before. Diyako has a serious history of personal attacks: block log

A checkuser between Diyako and D.kurdistani was filed as far back as 14:00, 7 April 2007. The result was a "decline" as Diyako was long stale by then. A checkuser is not possible as logs have expired. I asked arbitrators and checkusers for possible private logs but no one confirmed having such logs so far.

Evidence

1. D.Kurdistani's first edit on 00:38, 17 August 2006, just roughly two months after Diyako's ban by arbcom on 14:01, 7 May 2006. The "possible" sockpuppet mentioned above showed up roughly the same time arbcom case was closed.
2. User initiated a Nawroz article as his third edit which looks awfully professional for a 3rd edit
   • Diyako was also very active on the article in question (under an alternate title): Newroz as celebrated by Kurds.
   • Diyako considered an article merger to be cultural slavery. See the rfc case for more evidence on this.
3. Very recent NPA vios by D.Kurdistani (while logged out from a dynamic IP range): (1), (2), (3)
4. D.Kurdistani also showed interest in acquiring User:Diyako's former username. He identified himself as a "Diyako" further back

Comments

I have no way to be certain of this (even though I spent fifteen minutes reviewing all the evidence), but I'm about 99% sure that User:D.Kurdistani is a sockpuppet of User:Diyako. In addition to the formidable evidence from WhiteCat/07, you will find that other users refer to D.Kurdistani as "Diyako" on User talk:D.Kurdistani (search for "Diyaki" on that page using your browser's search function). If his real name is Diyako, then it's similar to calling User:Phaedriel as Sharon, or User:SlimVirgin as Sarah, or for that matter User:Shalom as Yechiel. But that begs the question: how many people do you know who are named "Diyako"? By far the most likely explanation is that these are the same person in real life. Shalom ^Hello 14:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Please don’t rush to conclusions yet, you cannot be 99% sure if I am a sockpuppet of Diyako by taking fifteen minutes to investigate this. You don’t know me so how can you tell that I am sockpuppet of Diyako or Xebat. You have to know who the user is and be positive that you are correct to conclude that I am a sockpuppet [1]. I ask you to please take your time and investigate this before you make a statement like that. --D.Kurdistani 06:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I don’t get this why are you doing this Cat, there is no need to go this far. I now you don’t like me and have bias against me, and there has been a history of tensions between us, but still you don’t need to take it this far. I have done nothing wrong on Wikipedia, there is no need to start a case like this based on false and biased pretences.

I repeat, I have done nothing wrong, I am not Diyako or Xebat or the IP addresses you list. --D.Kurdistani 07:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser is pretty conclusive that you are the IPs in question, infact the checkuser revealed your username. Prior I did not have the slightest idea. I would not have filed this case should a checkuser request did not positively identify you as the ips. -- Cat ^chi? 16:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Reply to Evidence

1.I was using Wikipedia (reading and editing articles) for a long time before I got an account, I got an account on August 17, 2006. Diyako and Xebat were both blocked on May 7, 2006 [2], [3], do the math and you see the time frame is 3 months and 11 days between (Diyako or Xebat) getting banned and me getting an account. Do you think he would have waited that long to get another account? I don’t think so. This first piece of evidence can’t be used as evidence, this does not provide a definite link between me and (Diyako or Xebat) in any shape or form. --D.Kurdistani 23:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

2. That does not make any sense; I was using Wikipedia (reading and editing articles) for a long time before I got an account. --D.Kurdistani 07:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

• Look at my history I am not or have I been very active on the Nawroz article. And as a matter of fact I don’t have a single edit on the article Newroz as celebrated by Kurds. --D.Kurdistani 07:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• This does not make sense at all, you have not stated your point and how it could be used as evidence. Don’t provide links and expect us to help you find evidence, make your points clear. --D.Kurdistani 07:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

3. How can you accuse me of sockpuppetry from IP addresses, if I make an edit but do not log in that does not translate to sockpuppetry. Irregardless I am not the IP addresses you claim, it could be someone else that uses my computer or someone else on my wireless network, you can’t be 100% percent sure that it’s me. --D.Kurdistani 07:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

4. I did try to change my user name to Diyako [4], my name is a bit long and just wanted my first name to appear on user account. But I could not change my name because the name already existed, so I asked him if I could have the name since he was not using it [5]. So far he has not replied. So if I was a sockpuppet of Diyako would I ask myself to have a account name that I already had? No, it would not make any sense. --D.Kurdistani 07:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

3. Those IPs are confirmed as you as per the check user case. It isn't an accusation and instead a reaction to a checkuser's conclusion.

4. One possibility is that you forgot your password. Diyako account lacks an email address so the password can't be reminded. (logic based on the assumption that you are Diyako)

-- Cat ^chi? 18:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Conclusions

• After spending some time looking through all the users' contributions, I've concluded that D. Kurdistani is a sockpuppet of Diyako/Xebat. Since Diyako/Xebat was banned for a year in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Aucaman, and D. Kurdistani's activity began during the one-year period, he has violated the ArbCom ban.
• The name Diyako is a form of Deioces, and as a famous king could quite plausibly be a username chosen by different people, and might be a personal name as well. Nevertheless, it's not common, and D. Kurdistani's interest in the name raises suspicions.
• The real smoking gun, however, is that D. Kurdistani created Nawroz as a POV fork with his third edit. Essentially, this article was created to portray Nowruz as a specifically Kurdish holiday (most apparent in this version). Diyako/Xebat was active on this issue (see the archives of Talk:Nowruz and Talk:Newroz) and advocated the existence of separate Kurdish/Persian versions; he also created a POV fork, Nevruz, for the "Turkish" version of the holiday.
• Since this involves an Arbcom case, I'm going to post at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement before taking further action.

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