Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Iantresman (2nd nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.
- Suspected sockpuppeteer
- Iantresman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Suspected sockpuppets
- 82.35.165.180 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Soupdragon42 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) [1] -- added by Jehochman Talk
- Report submission by
ScienceApologist (talk) 15:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Evidence
Whois and contributions firmly establishes it. ScienceApologist (talk) 15:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
I've added Soupdragon42. I recommend taking this to WP:RFCU as a code G. Jehochman Talk 15:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It seems reasonable to assume that Ian would know the operators of plasmacosmology.net but that does not mean he phoned him up and asked him to attack SA for him. Ian has been calm and patient in his communications with me. Thatcher 16:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Checkuser
Iantresman is not Soupdragon42 or the IP. I would have preferred not to comment on the IP, but under the circumstances I think I can confirm that the IP is in fact Soupdragon. Of course, both the IP and the web site that the IP signed with are in the UK. Ian is also in the UK but on a different ISP and a different city (depending on the accuracy of IP geolocation). Thatcher 16:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There is an entire forum of Ian Tresman allies angry at my activity at Wikipedia: [2]. Soupdragon, it turns out, is one of the names of one of the members there other than Iantresman. ScienceApologist (talk) 16:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Conclusions
Please explain how the whois information establishes it. Nevertheless, the IP has engaged in appalling harassment, and I will be blocking it temporarily, whether or not it is a sock. Jehochman Talk 15:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The society that Ian partially runs functions mostly out of Surrey: [3]. See [4]. ScienceApologist (talk) 15:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ScienceApologist, the claim that the SIS "functions mostly out of Surrey" is quite wrong. The SiS does not have any offices nor computers of its own; it has a membership of a few hundred, half of whom are in the UK, and the rest scattered throughout the English-speaking world. Ian Tresman actually lives in Derbyshire, which is about as close to Surrey as California is to Texas, relatively speaking. The link you list is just a hall hired for bi-annual speaker meeting--feline1 (talk) 16:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There's a reason it's hired in Surrey. ScienceApologist (talk) 16:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Having been a member of SiS in the past, I can tell you that some of the reasons they've hired that hall are: it's nice, clean, cheap, and reasonably easy to get to by private or public transport, as it's just off the orbital London motorway (the M25) in between the UK's two biggest airports and well-connected to some of the main train lines in the country. It is not because anyone in particular lives there. Dare I suggest that, as usual, you haven't much of a clue what you are talking about, but don't allow that to stop you from making the usual vociferous allegations. NEXT WEEK ON WIKIPEDIA: ScienceApologist revealed as having spoken at meeting in New York. All New York IP addresses banned for obvious meatpupptry.--feline1 (talk) 16:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Glad we finally got you to admit to your associations. Oh, and Soupdragon was the person I was referring to. ScienceApologist (talk) 16:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Lol you didn't "finally" get me to "admit" my "associations", as you have never ever asked me about them in the first place. Moreover off the top of my head, the only SiS member that I knew who lived in Redhill, Surrey is, I think, dead, so I doubt he's "soupdragon". Is there anything else you'd like to be wrong about?--feline1 (talk) 16:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm simply happy that your association with Velikovskian societies has been uncovered despite your insistence that you weren't a Velikovskian. By the way the association between the IP and Soupdragon has been confirmed. ScienceApologist (talk) 16:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Lol you didn't "finally" get me to "admit" my "associations", as you have never ever asked me about them in the first place. Moreover off the top of my head, the only SiS member that I knew who lived in Redhill, Surrey is, I think, dead, so I doubt he's "soupdragon". Is there anything else you'd like to be wrong about?--feline1 (talk) 16:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Glad we finally got you to admit to your associations. Oh, and Soupdragon was the person I was referring to. ScienceApologist (talk) 16:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Having been a member of SiS in the past, I can tell you that some of the reasons they've hired that hall are: it's nice, clean, cheap, and reasonably easy to get to by private or public transport, as it's just off the orbital London motorway (the M25) in between the UK's two biggest airports and well-connected to some of the main train lines in the country. It is not because anyone in particular lives there. Dare I suggest that, as usual, you haven't much of a clue what you are talking about, but don't allow that to stop you from making the usual vociferous allegations. NEXT WEEK ON WIKIPEDIA: ScienceApologist revealed as having spoken at meeting in New York. All New York IP addresses banned for obvious meatpupptry.--feline1 (talk) 16:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There's a reason it's hired in Surrey. ScienceApologist (talk) 16:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ScienceApologist, the claim that the SIS "functions mostly out of Surrey" is quite wrong. The SiS does not have any offices nor computers of its own; it has a membership of a few hundred, half of whom are in the UK, and the rest scattered throughout the English-speaking world. Ian Tresman actually lives in Derbyshire, which is about as close to Surrey as California is to Texas, relatively speaking. The link you list is just a hall hired for bi-annual speaker meeting--feline1 (talk) 16:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It does seem like sock puppetry then. Please file WP:RFCU as that may shine light on the situation and identify sleeper socks -- and be sure to notify Thatcher who has already been checking. Jehochman Talk 15:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Socks have been identified and blocked. No further action is required here. Jehochman Talk 16:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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