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Helicarrier (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This fails WP:SIGCOV. Most of the references are listicles that are either unreliable or not significant outside of discussions of Marvel and [S.H.I.E.L.D.]]. This could be redirected to S.H.I.E.L.D. with any passing mentions in sources that can be salvaged. Jontesta (talk) 20:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edd Gould (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I've been pondering on nominating this for AfD, and I've finally come to the conclusion that this article is not eligible for standalone notability and should either be deleted or merged into Eddsworld (if that article is even notable at this point with such sketchy sourcing). A WP:BEFORE search brings up obituary-style sources and passing mentions in articles. 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ (CALL ME IF YOU GET LOST) 01:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: while i agree Eddsworld isn't sourced properly (and that it probably is impossible to source well given the mainstream media snobness about early-2000s internet culture), this article in particular seems pretty well sourced to me. That his notability mostly comes from the continuation of his work by Ridgewell (ie he became notable mostly posthumously) is irrelevant because he is notable. I think EddsWorld should be merged into etiher TomSka or this article, but that's not the subject.
Themoonisacheese (talk) 09:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • There aren't very many in-depth sources (including in the article) but I think there are just enough to support a short article on Gould or Eddsworld. However, most of the coverage is overlapping between Gould and Eddsworld and I don't think there is enough to justify articles on both of them so I would support a merge to Eddsworld (or vice versa). Shapeyness (talk) 15:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
H.A.M.M.E.R. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Kept in AfD 10 years ago, so prod-ineligible - but at PROD level, sigh. Pure plot summary with a few mentions of comics etc. this organization appeared in, no analysis/reception. The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline requirement nor the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) supplementary essay. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. We can consider redirecting this per ATD-R to List of Marvel Comics teams and organizations Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Punch dimension (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable fictional concept. The references included outside of primary sources only consist of trivial coverage, largely from content farms. Searches are not turning up any significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources, making it a failure of the WP:GNG. I would have suggested redirecting it to Cyclops (Marvel Comics), except I don't think the name "Punch dimension" has ever actually been used in any official capacity in the comics, and is just a joke/meme name made up by fans. Rorshacma (talk) 17:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - The concept of Cyclops' power being powered by another dimension is not the made up joke/meme, its the name "Punch Dimension" to describe it that is. The actual quote from the 1983 Official Handbook on the topic is quoted in this article - note that the name "Punch dimension" does not appear in it. Merging is not necessary because the full description of Cyclops' powers, including the concept of it being generated by portals to a dimension of kinetic energy is already described in Cyclops (Marvel Comics)#Powers and abilities. And Redirection would not be appropriate as the name "Punch Dimension" is not the official name of that dimension in the comics themselves, and is not named as such in the Cyclops article. Rorshacma (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, just to be sure I've understood correctly, said dimension is not named in 1983 Official Handbook anywhere outside the quoted passage? In that case we still have secondary sources like Collider, which I assume to be reliable, and ScreenRant, where consensus is "reliable for entertainment-related topics", which this is, which report on that fan-generated name. So we can and should briefly include this somewhere on Wikipedia based on those sources, and Cyclops still seems a fitting target for this bit of information to me. (And this, unexpectedly, makes it a non-plot, real-world related factum.) Daranios (talk) 14:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did I fly too close to the sun with this article? Perhaps. But was it worth it? Yes, yes it was. Er, I mean, I don't really object, because the name is a meme, but the dimension is real. Alliterator85 (talk) 19:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As everything is referenced and an additional source is listed above, WP:OR seems very unlikely. Daranios (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Cyclops. No real SIGCOV, but it is a concept attached to Cyclops already described at his article that is a valid target for this. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 13:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hell (DC Comics) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable fictional location. News, Books, and Scholar turned up nothing about specifically DC's version of Hell, and the current article seems to be a nasty case of OR and SYNTH, since it combines many different interpretations of Hell from across DC canons into one article when they're unrelated to each other entirely, even in-universe. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Butt-Head (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Like Beavis, this article has no WP:SIGCOV at all per WP:BEFORE. Most of the sources talked about the film Beavis and Butt-Head, instead of the characters. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 10:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Shooterwalker. Series is notable but there's not really much discussing Butt-Head independently of the series, or even Beavis himself. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorcerer Supreme (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable role that lists every non-notable character to fill said role in the comics, or every time a character briefly took on the mantle. This role isn't individually notable of any of the actual significant characters who held the role as a major part of their characters, such as Strange or the Ancient One. News searches turned up WP:ROUTINE coverage of the role's various changes in the comics, WP:VALNET sources that don't contribute to notability, or summary style articles that only recap plot info. Scholar and Books yield a few hits that look promising at a glance, but the sources that mention the role are predominantly discussing Doctor Strange, with the role only being brought up as a significant part of his character. This role is not independently notable of Strange or any other character, and is better off redirected to Strange's article, given the bulk of coverage predominantly discusses the mantle in the form of Strange's usage of it. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 06:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Phoenix Force. Daniel (talk) 15:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

White Hot Room (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most of the article is just WP:FANCRUFT. A WP:BEFORE search yield no WP:RS source talking about the character. WP:CBR and ScreenRant is not a source to determine reliability per WP:VALNET. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed what I believe was a bunch of the cruft. That link says that ScreenRant is "marginally reliable" so I believe those citations are fine, but I also added some more additional citations from non-CBR and non-ScreenRant sources. How does it read now? Alliterator85 (talk) 12:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Rorschacma. Non-notable concept that has no notability independent of the Pheonix Force. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 23:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. No support for deletion. Owen× 14:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Chinese animated series (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I notice that Wikipedia's notability guidelines for lists are frustratingly vague. However, I would like to be bold in suggesting that this article is superfluous. We already have articles on general lists of animated series by year and a handful for animated series by country, and adding a third dimension of language seems unnecessary. Where does it end, is my question. The point of an encyclopedia is not to create exhaustive lists for every imaginable category. Having a common language is a rather trivial attribute that establishes no meaningful connection between these series. Anonymous 07:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per WP:LISTCRIT and WP:LISTPURP. Clearly pass the informational criterion but the page sure does need cleaning up. This is the same case of pages like List of Philippine animated films. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Again, this is a list by language, not national origin. No other such article exists, nor does creating more seem like a worthwhile endeavor. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Therefore, I would argue that this list does not serve an organizational purpose. Anonymous 16:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most sources I found, especially on Baidu, focus on national origin (search terms: 中文动画剧 and 中文动画列表). Same for the zhwiki article zh:中国动画列表. However, it seems to me that language is a far more useful and practical criterion for readers than a list by national origin, assuming readers are looking to watch series in a language they can understand. Important to this context, language is also more objective and less controversial. I don't particularly care if this stays or goes, but I'm pretty sure the bar of WP:NLIST is low enough that this list passes. Toadspike [Talk] 16:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    If this is kept, I strongly support a move to List of Mandarin Chinese animated series or List of Standard Chinese animated series. Toadspike [Talk] 16:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I would imagine an list of series that were produced in China and series that use the Chinese language would nearly be the same list, the issue about it being Mandarin series only could be fixed by adding series that use other dialogs. Jumpytoo Talk 03:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It meets criteria and I also disagree with the notion that the list is by language rather than national origin. The list plainly states that it is a list of animations from Mainland China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan only. Collectively, all of the listed locations are regarded legally as "China" in varying degrees where Taiwan is concerned. Singapore, which also has Mandarin as an official language, is excluded from the list. --Emm90 (talk) 23:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Emm90: It also explicitly states that they are all in Mandarin Chinese. Which is it? I've been swayed to believe that either would be a valid list, but surely it can't be both at once. Anonymous 23:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Mandarin Chinese is the primary language of China, Cantonese is a common language in certain prefectures, like Hong Kong. It's no different imho than List of French television series saying It includes series made by France alone as well as those produced in collaboration with various other countries. Almost all are in the French language or List of Spanish television series saying The spoken language (in original presentation) is in Spanish unless otherwise noted. It's just worded worse, and needing the wording revised isn't a good enough reason to delete imo. Emm90 (talk) 00:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That doesn't exactly answer my question. As it stands, there is a sentence saying that all entries are in Mandarin Chinese (which I interpret as a poorly worded attempt at saying only Mandarin Chinese series should be added). To be clear, are you in favor of removing this sentence and all linguistic criteria, so long as the series are from China? Anonymous 03:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The list saying it's in Mandarin is no more egregious than the List of Spanish television series saying the spoken language is Spanish unless otherwise noted. It should perhaps be reworded to "the spoken language is Mandarian unless otherwise noted", because the majority of the content is probably going to be in Mandarin de facto. Emm90 (talk) 04:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It list things from 1980s, and the democracy of Taiwan was already an independent country from communist China for quite some time. China keeps lying to its people claiming Taiwan is part of China, so including them together is a political thing. So I removed mention of Taiwan. Anyway, the template at the bottom of the article shows other articles of this type for different nations. Anything on the list that doesn't have its own article or other proof of notability, should be removed. This is a valid navigational and information list. Dream Focus 04:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Josh Selig#Filmography. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Go, Baby! (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication of notability, even with the primary sources shown, simply listing IMDB and Disney deprives this article's notability TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Lionel Luthor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I know this article is GA, but everything are cited as primary sources. Did WP:BEFORE, but found zero WP:SIGCOV. A source for ex like this [2] isn't. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 06:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Found it, here. This paper does have a lot of plot summary on Lionel Luthor, but also evaluation of his role, although mostly in relation to Lex Luthor (Smallville). Daranios (talk) 16:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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