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Can deletion reviews only be closed by admins?
Can deletion reviews only be closed by admins? The instructions would seem to say so, but that conflicts with the instructions at WP:ANRFC. I ask because I'm prepared to close a DR discussion that has been open for more than 30 days.- MrX 16:07, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- One thing deletion review teaches you is that admins don't have the wisdom of Solomon. No: non-admins can and do close deletion reviews (particularly Armbrust, but I've done it as well). You need to be 100% sure your close is right because a bad DRV close is unwelcome.—S Marshall T/C 16:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification S Marshall.- MrX 16:45, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Err, and if this is Knights of the Order of the Netherlands Lion, then I'd tend to suggest that might not be a good one for a novice.—S Marshall T/C 17:30, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Too late. I guess we'll see.- MrX 17:35, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Mmmm the basic rule is that non-admins shouldn't close DRVs because the final step of the deletion process should be done properly with the closer not being constrained in their decision by the toolset they have access too. In practise, the regular non-admins know enough about the ethos and expected outcomes here to get away with NACs. I wouldn't recommend it to a non-regular because most reviews are closed on time (we have 3-4 admins who are here enough to routinely close completed discussions) and being left is a really good sign that the discussion is hard or the regular admins don't fancy doing it for whatever reason. Spartaz Humbug! 19:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Interesting. If we want only admins to close DRs then we should probably make change WP:ANRFC to reflect that. In any case, the DR was open for 47 days, with the last comment 16 days ago. It was probably time to close it per perfect is the enemy of good.- MrX 20:15, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Mmmm the basic rule is that non-admins shouldn't close DRVs because the final step of the deletion process should be done properly with the closer not being constrained in their decision by the toolset they have access too. In practise, the regular non-admins know enough about the ethos and expected outcomes here to get away with NACs. I wouldn't recommend it to a non-regular because most reviews are closed on time (we have 3-4 admins who are here enough to routinely close completed discussions) and being left is a really good sign that the discussion is hard or the regular admins don't fancy doing it for whatever reason. Spartaz Humbug! 19:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Too late. I guess we'll see.- MrX 17:35, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Err, and if this is Knights of the Order of the Netherlands Lion, then I'd tend to suggest that might not be a good one for a novice.—S Marshall T/C 17:30, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification S Marshall.- MrX 16:45, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- MrX, where were the categories relisted? Kraxler (talk) 20:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Considering how long it's overrun and considering that at the time of closure this was the longest-listed discussion at WP:ANRFC, and also considering that that was probably the best available close in the circumstances, I'm grateful to MrX for stepping up.—S Marshall T/C 20:55, 14 October 2015 (UTC)