Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Democratic Republic of the Congo/Archive 1
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The WikiProject Congo was formed on 9 December 2007 to foster better articles on the nation of Democratic Republic of the Congo with a spirit of cooperation. This page and its subpages contain suggestions on formatting and layout of articles, which can be discussed at the project's talk page. To participate, simply add your name at the project member page.
Note: The founder of this page has no desire to claim the name of Congo away from friends of the Republic of Congo. Articles about the Republic of Congo and editors interested in that country are very welcome to participate in this project. In time, there may to two sections of the Wikiproject, the DR Congo and the Republic of Congo.
Scope
This project covers the creation and editing of articles related to the nation of Congo, its cities, counties, geography, transportation, culture, history and so on. It aims to expand Wikipedia's resources on Congo in a fair and accurate manner.
As of December 9, 2007, there are 0 articles within the scope of WikiProject Congo, of which 0 are featured.
Congo discussion from Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals
- Description
- I have formed Wikipedia:WikiProject Congo. Canada has a WikiProject but not one for the Democratic Republic of the Congo. I believe we should freely welcome those interested in the Republic of the Congo so as not to deny those editors the name of "Congo". There is much work to be done. The quality of the articles can be much improved.
- Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
- Comments
I would very much suggest moving the existing page to userspace. Also, there are now separate pages for work groups of WikiProject Africa for both countries named "Congo", although the Africa Project banner evidently hasn't been adjusted to accomodate all the work groups. Using the existing task force, when the banner is prepared for it, might be a lot easier and have a better chance of success. John Carter (talk) 19:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I am making a motion to disband WikiProject Congo with the plan of possibly becoming active at a later date when more members participate and more articles are written or improved. This motion has passed with 100% voter turnout and 100% voting to agree. I have put a redirect while the page is dormant. This WikiProject proposal may be placed in the archives.Congolese (talk) 05:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Spanish WP
Hi! I added the interwiki to the spanish WP. Maybe we can help each other to improve aour work. Saludos. Rakela (talk) 13:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
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An African cinema task force has been proposed at WikiProject Films, which would include the cinema of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Interested editors are encouraged to sign up - if there is enough interest, then the task force will be created! Many thanks, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 03:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Democratic Republic of the Congo-related articles needing geographical coordinates
Based on a search of Wikipedia's articles, I've found some Iraq-related articles that I believe are about places, and could usefully have geographical coordinates added.
The articles in question are listed in Category:Democratic Republic of the Congo articles missing geocoordinate data. At the time of writing, some examples included:
- Bandundu Province
- Djokupunda
- Équateur Province
- Gbadolite Airport
- Kasai Province
- Lubondai
- Orientale, Congo
...and there are many more. At the time of posting this notice, there were 114 articles in this category left to tag with geographical coordinates.
The articles are all marked with {{coord missing}} tags, which need replacing with {{coord}} tags that contain their latitude/longitude coordinates. You can find out how to do this at the Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Please let me know if this is useful! SpencerT♦C 01:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Some PD images and maps
For anyone working on the DRC, especially the 1960s: I stumbled upon Dragon Operations: Hostage Rescues in the Congo, 1964-1965. by Major Thomas P. Odom, Combat Studies Institute. U.S. Army Command and General Staff College. While the content may not be helpful, it is filled with (mostly) public domain images and maps. Anything created by a US govt. employee in the course of his/her duties is automatically Public Domain, and uploadable to the Wikipedia Commons. T L Miles (talk) 20:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, this article is up for deletion and could use some input from users aquainted with the Congo. ThemFromSpace 00:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Crossposted to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Angola, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Republic of the Congo, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Democratic Republic of the Congo
I encountered the above article today during unreferenced BLP cleanup. I can't find any reliable sources for it, and the article's creator couldn't remember what he'd used. Does anyone at this project know of this person, and of any source I could use to verify the article? If I can't find anything in a week or so I will take the article to WP:PROD. Gonzonoir (talk) 14:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
New category: Category:Belgian Congo
I was surprised that such a cat didn't yet exist, so I created it. Still needs some populating (you can take some clues by looking at the French version of the category). Note that this does not cover Leopold's Congo Free State, but rather the 1908-1960 state. Thanks for any help sorting the proper articles into this category. MatthewVanitas (talk) 10:28, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Use the official names in all articles
I know that this has been discussed in the past, but the political situation is much more settled now - names and flags have been established for the long term and so it's worth making the point of sticking to official names again.
Congo-Kinshasa and Congo-Brazaville are historical names; they are also names which are used informally in the capital cities of the two countries, probably because the people who live there think they represent the whole country. It's pretty similar to people in London, or Paris, who think they represent the whole of their respective countries. However, those names are not the official names of any country in present times. It's not even open to discussion really. This is an encyclopaedia - and the names of the two countries are The Democratic Republic of the Congo and The Republic of the Congo (with or without "the") and nothing else. We are going into dangerous territory if we think we can change things. Remember, Wikipedia is used by millions of people as a primary reference. Francis Hannaway 08:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
- Francis, you seem to confuse "Kinshasa", "Brazzaville" and "Congo-Kinshasa" , "Congo-Brazzaville". The two former are the names of the capitals, the two latter are non official names used for the countries. If you want to compare it to other countries it would be like Guinea-Bissau (which is used in the official name) or Guinea-Conakry (which is not official). Whenever Congo-Kinshasa or Congo-Brazzaville have been used, it is not to refer to the capitals, even if some people might wrongfully think those capitals represent the whole of their respective countries as you say. The UN and others were using Congo (Léopoldville) and Congo (Brazzaville) in the sixties, it would be surprising if they were just referring to the capitals. --Moyogo/ (talk) 21:43, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Mbayi Kafwemb - Congo related article for deletion. Can you save it?
Hi editors, the Mbayi Kafwemb article has been marked for deletion. The discussion can be found here. I've tried to find reliable sources for this article to stop the deletion from going ahead but I am not having any luck. If I am right, as expressed by another editor, the name may be transcribed in error. After doing some digging, I think the name Mbayi or Mbaye is the title of a king e.g. Maad a Sinig and Maad Saloum among the Serer people. Unfortunately I am not familiar with the subject or the history. Does anyone know about this subject and stop it from being deleted? Having read other related articles, both in English Wiki and other languages as well as reliable sources, I do not doubt the subject nor do I doubt the notability of this person. However since there are no sources cited nor other names he is commonly known as, trying to find sources have proved difficult. Tamsier (talk) 07:23, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
- Mbayi seems to be a name. The Bena Mbayi (Children of Mbayi, Bena X is common in Central Congo-Kinshasa) are his descendants, that's all I can get from that name, so far. --Moyogo/ (talk) 08:07, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks Moyogo for that contribution. Best regards. Tamsier (talk) 10:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Photos
Hi guys, I'm looking for any free-usage pictures of Le Grand Kalle, his album covers, band etc. to try and beef-up the Congolese Rumba articles - does anyone have any? Brigade Piron (talk) 17:29, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Article edits to Sexual violence in the Democratic Republic of the Congo
Hi all! I am in a Wikipedia contribution class on Poverty, Gender, and Human Development at Rice University and I want to expand upon the Sexual violence in the Democratic Republic of the Congo article. I am very passionate about this topic and I want to add onto this article because I think it will be beneficial to provide information to give the page more depth and portray its complexity. I want to add information on regional differences, different forms of sexual violence, and national and international prevention efforts. I came to this page because the article is very relevant to this Project and I hope to provide a more realistic portrayal of the situation in the DRC. Please let me know if anyone would like to give me any feedback or advice! Juliabarrow3 (talk) 01:50, 6 March 2013 (UTC)Juliabarrow3
Second World War in Congo
Hello, I'm looking for the Kikongo/Lingala translation of "Second World War" for an article under construction. Anyone know? --Brigade Piron (talk) 14:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- If anyone's interested, I'm looking for someone to do a GA review on the same article (Belgian Congo in World War II).Brigade Piron (talk) 08:39, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
This year's copy and the 1914 allegedly racist exhibition
At a world exhition, the 1914 Jubilee Exhibition there was an exhibition stand called the Congo Village (kongolandsbyen). Can anyone say for sure that the Congo Village is not a notable subject? This year there is scheduled a Congo Village art event in Oslo, named after the first mentioned village. Has anyone heard anything that might help my Norwegian perspective in writing about this event (or the 100 year old event)? Three residents or citizens wrote in a newspaper article, "We will not know until the 17th of May, if the Kongo Village of 2014 will amplify or kill prejudices". That article, "The Congo Village on wrong tracks" was in daily Aftenposten, Kongolandsby på ville veier. One of the wikipedias uses the term Human zoo about the original Congo Village. If there are no replies: does anyone have any words of encouragement for an article about the Congo Village? --Ethno decentrism (talk) 09:59, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Help requested to find French language sources about Stellar Airways
At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stellar Airways we need to find some sources about this airline. I saw a video of a Congolese news broadcast but I need a written article from a Congolese newspaper. WhisperToMe (talk) 09:35, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
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- I'm sorry but I don't think we have any (active) project members in the DRC itself :( Brigade Piron (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Pleas add information about this country to this articles--Kaiyr (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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"Congo Free State" - Article Frederick Starr
Hi, could one of your experts have a look at the article Frederick Starr please? - There seems to be a confusion of names. Perhaps you can sort that out.
Btw.: Project Gutenberg has just published Starr's ignominious whitewash by the name of "The Truth About the Congo" (sic!). - Thanks--176.2.66.46 (talk) 10:06, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- No more need for that, made the correction myself. - Just to mention it: In the meantime Project Gutenberg has published the Casement Report as well. --176.4.100.185 (talk) 00:00, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
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Congolese names
I've noticed there seems to be some confusion on Wikipedia about how Congolese personal names works. As I understand it, it is common for Congolese people to have three names of which only two are commonly used. For example, Lucien Bahuma whose actual name is Lucien Bahuma Ambamba or Joseph Kabila whose real name is Joseph Kabila Kabange. I was wondering if members of this project thought it might be worth creating a hatnote, similar to the ones that are used for Spanish people? —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:37, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- I agree, though I'm not really sure about the particulars of this rule (I've seen the same names written in a variety of ways). I suppose we should get one. -Indy beetle (talk) 06:35, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
- The best summary of the rule I have found is this and, while it doesn't work 100% of the time, generally functions pretty well: "Firstname Surname Postname".—Brigade Piron (talk) 23:19, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
New articles: Albert Yuma Mulimbi and Congolese Employers Federation
Hello. I am not a member of this WP, but I recently created two articles you may want to expand: Albert Yuma Mulimbi and Congolese Employers Federation. There are also several red links. The issue to find reliable third-party sources. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:49, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
- I've taken a look. Afraid there's not much I can do, seeing as I don't speak French, but the article on Mulimbi looks promising. Keep up the good work! -Indy beetle (talk) 06:33, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello. I've just created Kibua, which has been a base both for the MONUSCO and the FDLR. It could probably be expanded.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:03, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- Not a lot out there, but I'll see what I can do. -Indy beetle (talk) 02:53, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, the sources are difficult to find for the DRC.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:09, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
User:Wykx created Kasaï-Central clashes (2016–present). I tried to expand it a bit but it's a lot of work and a great article to work on together as a project!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- It might make sense to add a "background" section before the "timeline" section with more info about the Kamwina Nsapu. I also wonder if we should create an article about Jean-Pierre Pandi, the founder of the militia; however, I am afraid it would only be a stub at this point. Heir to the local land from his father, medical doctor, spent some years in South Africa--that's all I could find.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:32, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
I've created Cifunzi.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:09, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Could someone please create an article about the documentary When Elephants Fight?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:13, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
FAR for Armed Forces of the DRC
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Lever Brothers
Seeking assistance with the Lever Brothers article. Lever Brothers is a company that extensively used forced labor in the Belgian Congo. There is a request for comment here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lever_Brothers The dispute involves an another editor who shows no interest in reviewing references deleting large amounts of information from the article, seemingly at random. I expect to be blocked soon for disagreeing with him so if that happens I may not be able to respond to people unless they come to my talk page. Ashy Waves (talk) 18:06, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Ashy Waves: Hello there, thank you for your contributions concerning the Congo Free State and Belgian Congo. The focus of the forced labour discussion appears to revolve around the activities of the Lever Brothers subsidiary, Huileries du Congo Belge (HCB). I think the level of detail of the information at the Lever Brothers article is perhaps WP:UNDUE. I'd recommend writing a whole new article for the HCB and then moving most of that information there. I'd be more than willing to help. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:13, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Indy beetle, As long as the Lever Brothers article contains at least a summary, sufficient to get the point across that genuine forced labour was extensively used, with a link to the HCB article at the top of that summary, I don't see a major problem with that. However, it is important that the information be included in some way regardless of whether the subsidiary was used for whatever legal reason. Lord Lever still played a rather direct role in organizing the forced labour. Ashy Waves (talk) 19:33, 17 March 2018 (UTC) Like it wasn't an independent, separate subsidiary. William Lever personally traveled to the Congo to negotiate with the Belgian government. The HCB was simply another company set up by William Lever, to provide palm oil for the soap his company made. Some of the less detailed references simply attribute the forced labour to Lever Brothers or Unilever, rather than bothering to mention the involvement of the subsidiary. Ashy Waves (talk) 19:37, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
On my talk page someone left a comment stating, "Stop spamming your proposed content all over the place and read WP:CANVASS. Also, do not create RFCs with invalid opening statements." This seems to confirm my fears that I may be blocked soon just for disagreeing with people on talk pages. If that happens I hope you or someone else will talk to me on my talk page, Indy beetle. Ashy Waves (talk) 14:25, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Crimes against humanity in the Congo Free State
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Welcome to the Months of African Cinema!
Greetings!
The AfroCine Project welcomes you to October, the first out of the two months which has been dedicated to improving contents that centre around the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora.
This is a global online edit-a-thon, which is happening in at least 5 language editions of Wikipedia, including the English Wikipedia! Join us in this exciting venture, by helping to create or expand articles which are connected to this scope. Also remember to list your name under the participants section, if you haven't done so already.
On English Wikipedia, we would be recognizing Users who are able to achieve the following:
- Overall winner (1st, 2nd, 3rd places)
- Country Winners
- Diversity winner
- High quality contributors
- Gender-gap fillers
- Page improvers
- Wikidata Translators
For further information about the contest, the recognition categories and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. See you around :).--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:50, 03 October 2018 (UTC)