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Wikidata weekly summary #657

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2024-12-09. Missed the previous one? See issue #656

Discussions

  • New requests for permissions/Bot: KlaraBot - Task(s): Append a human's lifespan to descriptions when they can be authoritatively sourced.
  • Closed request for comments: Audio transcription (P9533) - Closed with no consensus. The discussion is ongoing on the Property P5933 talk page.

Events

  • Past: Amical Wikimedia, the Catalan-language and culture focused thematic Wikimedia Organization organized the Celebrem Wikidata (Let's celebrate Wikidata) project to celebrate Wikidata's 12th anniversary, from November 10 - 30. This included a Wikidata introduction workshop to equip participants with the editing skills to tackle the project's main aim. This was presented as a game to delete duplicate info on Wikidata and Catalan Viquipèdia infoboxes, in three areas: protected buildings, officers' positions and data related to sports teams players. At the end of the event, ~200 Wikidata-fed infoboxes and Wikidata items were improved and many Wikipedia editors edited Wikidata for the first time!
  • Upcoming events:
    • (Deutsch)Wikidata for Legal Historians - Tue. 10 December, 3pm - 7pm (UTC+1). This presentation explores Wikidata as a key platform for LOD, explains its Semantic Web foundation, introduces FactGrid (a Wikidata-based platform for historical research). Highlights potential of both platforms using examples and encourages discussion for legal historical research. Register here.
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Development

Weekly Tasks

Tech News: 2024-50

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • Technical documentation contributors can find updated resources, and new ways to connect with each other and the Wikimedia Technical Documentation Team, at the Documentation hub on MediaWiki.org. This page links to: resources for writing and improving documentation, a new #wikimedia-techdocs IRC channel on libera.chat, a listing of past and upcoming documentation events, and ways to request a documentation consultation or review. If you have any feedback or ideas for improvements to the documentation ecosystem, please contact the Technical Documentation Team.

Updates for editors

Layout change for the Edit Check feature
  • Later this week, Edit Check will be relocated to a sidebar on desktop. Edit check is the feature for new editors to help them follow policies and guidelines. This layout change creates space to present people with new Checks that appear while they are typing. The initial results show newcomers encountering Edit Check are 2.2 times more likely to publish a new content edit that includes a reference and is not reverted.
  • The Chart extension, which enables editors to create data visualizations, was successfully made available on MediaWiki.org and three pilot wikis (Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedias). You can see a working examples on Testwiki and read the November project update for more details.
  • Translators in wikis where the mobile experience of Content Translation is available, can now discover articles in Wikiproject campaigns of their interest from the "All collection" category in the articles suggestion feature. Wikiproject Campaign organizers can use this feature, to help translators to discover articles of interest, by adding the <page-collection> </page-collection> tag to their campaign article list page on Meta-wiki. This will make those articles discoverable in the Content Translation tool. For more detailed information on how to use the tool and tag, please refer to the step-by-step guide. [1]
  • The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, now has a multiselect filter for namespace selection. This enables users to select multiple specific namespaces, instead of only one or all, when fetching pages for deletion.
  • The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions. Thanks to Chlod and the Moderator Tools team for both of these improvements. [2]
  • The Editing Team is working on making it easier to populate citations from archive.org using the Citoid tool, the auto-filled citation generator. They are asking communities to add two parameters preemptively, archiveUrl and archiveDate, within the TemplateData for each citation template using Citoid. You can see an example of a change in a template, and a list of all relevant templates. [3]
  • One new wiki has been created: a Wikivoyage in Indonesian (voy:id:) [4]
  • Last week, all wikis had problems serving pages to logged-in users and some logged-out users for 30–45 minutes. This was caused by a database problem, and investigation is ongoing. [5]
  • Recurrent item View all 19 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a bug in the Add Link feature has been fixed. Previously, the list of sections which are excluded from Add Link was partially ignored in certain cases. [6][7]

Updates for technical contributors

  • Codex, the design system for Wikimedia, now has an early-stage implementation in PHP. It is available for general use in MediaWiki extensions and Toolforge apps through Composer, with use in MediaWiki core coming soon. More information is available in the documentation. Thanks to Doğu for the inspiration and many contributions to the library. [8]
  • Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. On December 4, the MediaWiki Interfaces team began rerouting page/revision metadata and rendered HTML content endpoints on testwiki from RESTbase to comparable MediaWiki REST API endpoints. The team encourages active users of these endpoints to verify their tool's behavior on testwiki and raise any concerns on the related Phabricator ticket before the end of the year, as they intend to roll out the same change across all Wikimedia projects in early January. These changes are part of the work to replace the outdated RESTBase system.
  • The 2024 Developer Satisfaction Survey is seeking the opinions of the Wikimedia developer community. Please take the survey if you have any role in developing software for the Wikimedia ecosystem. The survey is open until 3 January 2025, and has an associated privacy statement.
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week. [9]

Meetings and events

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

English

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Hi Cassiopeia, thanks for your AIV report. I personally found the discussion with the reported user painful to read because of internet slang abbreviations ("Pls" everywhere) and bad English ("You have received [a] final warning", "not all source[d] info [needs] to be elabrate[d] to such exten[t]" et cetera). If this is a matter of effort invested into writing, please do invest more of it to avoid confusion and to improve the impression your messages have on new users. Most newcomers will take your messages, especially if they're warnings, as a representation of the community or the administration. You are the voice of Wikipedia to these people. It should at least not be full of "Pls". ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ToBeFree I understand where you coming from but when an editor lied about they took TWA yet their violated the Wikipedia guidelines in their edits and that is not a good faith edits. I will always help editors who want to learn or understand Wikipedia guidelines. I doubt in this case words such as please will make any different of their edits nor approach want to know more (I provide TWA links). However, thank you for your outreach and and message. I know 4 languages and English is my third language but master of none. Just to let you know that I have mild condition of Irlen syndrome - see here for I see more white space with and some texts disappear to the background. I know this is my problems and I have no qualms for anyone points out or corrects the grammatical mistakes I made in Wikipedia. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 23:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of that condition! The use of "pls" (which appears to be independent of this) made me incorrectly assume that all of the language was affected by a lack of effort rather than something out of your control, which I'm sorry to have criticized you for. I think reducing the use of such abbreviations (if there are more) or specifically not abbreviating "please" to "pls" would already help a lot.
Regarding good or bad faith, I'm not entirely sure. The user does seem to have tried The Wikipedia Adventure, resulting in an automated message to themselves on their talk page. They didn't do much more than having a look, I guess, as that would cause far more of these contributions and lead to the creation of user subpages (yet there are none). So when they say "I removed the TWA program messages cause I already went through with it", that does appear to be factually incorrect. They are probably not aware that this can be checked easily. But instead of interpreting this as bad faith, can we perhaps assume that the user is simply not interested in this entirely optional space-game-themed tutorial? I tried TWA too and didn't go beyond creating a single page either. I didn't even edit that page. When I learned about TWA, it was far "too late", if you like, for playing with it, and I was afraid it could even look unprofessional and have an impact on the adminship I already thought about applying for. I can also understand if a new user is uninterested in it and dismisses your invitation with a rather harmless lie to avoid a discussion about their legitimate choice.
If the user (whom I think we should ping as a courtesy) continues editing disruptively, WP:ANI would be a good place to report this, or even WP:ANEW if it results in them edit warring against more than one disagreeing editor. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:04, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ToBeFree and Songsten: ToBeFree, Dont worry, I am the one who has the syndrome and it is my problems as I have delt with that since I was a child, in school, in university and at work for I lost many opportunities of being promoted or advance in anything that need me to write eloquently. It is what it is. Here is the background: There is an editor kept on adding NPOV content and when their were warned and told/discussion on the article talk page the stopped editing but IP addresses doing the same things after that and resulted the article is protected for one year. Then this editor (Songstern) joined Wikipedia after the article is protected, adding back the non NPOV content just like the said editor and IP editors and also edited in boxing related pages. I see same patterns but can not IP check them and I see them not addressing the issues and asking questions which I have already addressed and they did not read the provided guidelines and lied about TWA that they said they have taken the program and yet had edited unsourced content, removed sourced content and added NPOV content prior. Not wanting to do optional TWA or do not know the Wikipedia guidelines is one thing, lying about it and lying after proved they didnt take TWA and state "I dont know what happened" it is another - for that is the "intention" we are talking about. Intentional lying can not considered a good faith here. I have informed the editor to go to the article talk page if they disagree with the content added/removal. We might see a little different here but I understand your intentions and you come here in good-will.
Songsten, The admin decided not to block you and give you an benefit of doubt for you are new to Wikipedia. So (1) Please read the basic Wikipedia guidelines if you want to be a constructive editor and do not want to get blocked. (2) If you dont want to do the TWA then pls click on the links which provided to you on the "Welcome message" on your talk page. (3) One very important guidelines here is verification which is the core policy of Wikipedia. The editor who change/add the content need to provide the source (independent, reliable sources such as from the newspapers or books) - see WP:PROVEIT. (4) Go to the article talk page if you have any disagree of the content and discuss civilly and do not change the article until consensus is reached. (5) Be civil and polite when talk to other editor. (6) Ask questions if you have any and if guidelines (highlighted texts) are provided and read them. Cassiopeia talk 00:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cassiopeia you have to do a better job communicating with new users to Wikipedia. Cause you have not a good job communicating with me, which has painted a bad picture of Wikipedia community in my mind. But it's okay cause I'm willing to give a second chance. Good luck. Also why did you lie saying I removed sourced content and added unsourced content. And it was you who removed sourced content telling me that not all sourced info need to be elabrated to such extent. And I have not violated the Wikipedia guidelines in my edits, so you don't need to lie to get your point across. And I was not lying when I said, I tried The Wikipedia Adventure, as you can see it resulted in an automated message on my talk page. I had a look and wasn't getting much info cause I was on my phone when I tried it and the words weren't displaying on screen clearly. So frustrated I removed it. But I'm quite disappointed that you reported me based on that. But it seems like English is your third language and you have mild condition of Irlen syndrome, and guess what English is also my third language as well. So I can understand maybe we got off on the wrong footing. But I hope we can get long better.Songsten (talk) 02:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ToBeFree and Songsten: Even with what you said "not good at communicating" with you, there are plenty of warnings messages which not written by me and all the Wikipedia guidelines links which provided for you if you read them to understand the issues/what to do/explanations which you did not. As I have mentioned to you not all sourced content should be in the article for Wikipedia is not a book, newspapers, magazines especially what you added in is non-WP:NPOV which I have mentioned to you several times and link was provided. If you disagree then go to the talk page. I suggest you to edit constructively here on, read the guidelines provided and ask for assistance/questions if needed and not continuing the edits that violate Wikipedia guidelines if needed and not continuing the edits that violate Wikipedia guidelines if you want to continue editing Wikipedia pages. Cassiopeia talk 03:14, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ToBeFree and Songsten: If you want to do TWA, do it on laptop or desktop or click on "Introduction" link on the "Welcome message" on your talk page - you will find some important Wikipedia guidelines. If you want to learn editing constructively and communicate politely, not only me are happy to help you but all experienced Wikipedians will also welcome your outreach but you have to take on their advice and "READ" the provided guidelines and adhere to them when editing. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you and I will try TWA on a desktop. And all the best to you as well. Songsten (talk) 03:38, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ToBeFree and Songsten: Thank you for communicating and be safe. Cassiopeia talk 03:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thalappakatti and its Trademarks

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https://tmrsearch.ipindia.gov.in/tmrpublicsearch/ Baalaguru (talk) 09:38, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baalaguru Good day. Pls note that you need to provide independent, reliable source such as from the newspapers or books. The source you provided is from gov and it is considered not reliable. All social media, government, private companies, education sites are considered not reliable and/or not independent. Pls find source from books or newspaper to support your claim for verification. You can use Template:Cite web and WP:Cite book for inline citation if the source is from web and book respectively. Thank you Cassiopeia talk 09:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot Baalaguru (talk) 09:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why "pls" directly in the section below the discussion about it? :( I guess it's a habit, but you could at least change that one. Well, perhaps if at least one other person agrees that "pls" looks strange. You don't have to change your writing style just because one person complains. Ask anyone you trust. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ToBeFree Thank you for the outreach. I dont know that is a guidelines in Wikipedia indicates not to abbreviations the word for it might not be right or polite or formal way of talking to other editors. If there is a guideline then pls forward me the link. It might look strange to you to see "pls" and I dont have a single complaint about my "pls" in writing at work of all the years working in the multinational corporation (MNC) in the regional office in emails or text messages (not in proper documents of course). However, I understand if might not be formal enough for some ppl not to see the full spelling of certain words. Have a good day ToBeFree. Stay safe. Cassiopeia talk 22:37, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Complaints about such things are rare because people are nice. :) "Pls" and "ppl" look unprofessional to me and would even be too informal for e-mail conversation with well-known colleagues to me. There is (probably) no Wikipedia guideline about this, but especially the word "please", used to ask others to do things, should generally be written without a visible lack of effort as a matter of respect. You're communicating with colleagues, not chatting in an online game. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ToBeFree Maybe it is the company culture thing, working in a regional position, I have to work with colleagues from Europe, MENA (Middle East North Africa) and Asia Pacific, they typed "pls" in their emails to me too. I dont think all the top executives, directors, vice president, president of the business units who I have to work with in my company would care about being nice to me if they want to tell me off that I use abbreviations in internal emails to other collogues. MY collogues and bosses would care that I finish the work/project/bid on time because they company will loss a lot of money if we miss the date line. To say all that, I understand your intention and I agree it is more professional or formal if abbreviations are not used. Thank you that you take time to communicate with me and stay safe. Cassiopeia talk 01:16, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 12 December 2024

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2025 in Cage Warriors

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Hi brother, Cage Warriors event in 2025 page, should i do create or not? Because other organization such as UAE Warriors, Oktagon MMA.... it has already been released. AddedUpdatePoster (talk) 15:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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