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The result was nomination withdrawn. (Non-admin closure). -- Shivam Setu (U-T-C) 18:13, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The article is meant to promote the subject. May I quote here that the article is apparently created by the producer ShivangSehgal/ Now blocked production house User:LegacyFilms of the movie. It was earlier under a different title W (2013 film), later moved to W (2014 film). Still releasing... However the primary concern is none of the above but WP:NF. AnupMehra 15:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: The article obeys policy in not being promotional. WP:PROMO #5 says, "Information about companies and products must be written in an objective and unbiased style, free of puffery." Now we need to look for reliable sources that cover the film in detail to demonstrate notability. This is one source for consideration, while this is just a reprinted press release. EDIT: This is another source I found. I am not familiar enough with Indian sources to know which ones are reliable or not. If others can comment on their reliability, that would be great. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 16:35, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    First one is a reliable source. Lets concentrate on content of the source, Legacy Film Productions' first Hindi Feature Film titled W, which was launched in the month of September 2012 is all set to hit the theatres in June 2013. It is not released till date. Now it is said by the producer of the movie in the article, that it would be releasing on 14 MARCH 2014. No recent source found on Google. Might be, it is the one alphabet title causing trouble finding sources even available. Second is a reprint of the press release, hence doesn't contribute to establish notability. third one seems reliable, it says the same, it will be releasing soon in 2013 in to Indian cinemas. AnupMehra 16:55, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    As the press release mentions, W screened at the Navi Mumbai International Film Festival. We can use that term in a search to find any independent coverage. It is a little tricky to search with that one-letter title, though. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 17:00, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: At one point someone removed a lot of the sourcing I'd found for the film, so I've re-added the sourcing. I'm not sure why it was removed. This isn't an argument for notability, just that there's more sourcing than there initially was. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:28, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't that someone. (page history). Thanks for re-adding sources. The article now looks good enough notable for inclusion (There was zero sources the moment I nominated the page for deletion). I guess, I should withdraw my nomination now. Thank you again. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 11:10, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment by the nominator: I withdraw the nomination as multiple sources are made available by respected editors (There might be many more coming with dates closing to the release). I should have given myself some more time finding references and updating article rather than nominating. Regards, Anupmehra -Let's talk! 11:10, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. While this person is covered in "sources", there doesn't appear to be agreement on whether those sources are substantial or reliable. I assume that User:Nyttend's comment about "independent" sources is a typo and they meant "substantial", since quite clearly the local newspapers are hopefully independent of the mayor's office. Lankiveil (speak to me) 13:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable individual. Fails WP:POLITICIAN. References are either press releases, obits, or unrelated. reddogsix (talk) 14:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - There are 218 other Texas mayors with Wikipedia articles. The city of Bryan is larger than some of the other cities whose mayors have articles. The Stabler article has sources from Bryan-College Station Eagle and three articles on two network television stations. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:37, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep evidently plenty of local news sources for WP:GNG ... and per User:Billy Hathorn In ictu oculi (talk) 03:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No coverage in independent sources. Everything's from local publications, with nothing from independent sources from other places. Any mayor in a place with its own media will get plenty of news coverage from the local publication(s), but that's not sufficient: we need secondary sources, not simply the primary coverage from the local TV stations and newspaper. Wait until he gets coverage in books or academic journals, or until he gets discussed in news articles from other cities or from Bryan media long after his death. Nyttend (talk) 15:34, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I am torn between poor sourcing and my experience that being a mayor is notable by default. If he was historical, referenced to few obscure books, we would keep him. I think that being modern and referenced to few local websites is little different. The question is, again, where to draw the lone? User:Billy Hathorn did a wonderful job on a very borderline (notability-wise) topi. WP:POLITICIAN states "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage". The hard part is defining significant. He received coverage in local newspaper and stations, but as User:Nyttend notes, those kind of obits are to be expected. In the end I am having trouble making a choice either way; if this is deleted I strongly suggest userfication in creator's namespace. Ping with through WP:ECHO if anyone wants to reply to me directly here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Keep per WP:SNOW. Andrew (talk) 14:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Unreferenced BLP that doesn't indicate notability. Launchballer 13:56, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Bad form nomination. Did the nominator read the article? This is not a BLP, it's about a figure in Chinese mythology. You might as well delete Thor for being a BLP lacking references. Shii (tock) 14:49, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thor has 58 references...--Launchballer 14:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There are plenty of references on the Chinese, Vietnamese, Polish, and French versions of this article. Why didn't you look at those before trying to delete this "living person"? Shii (tock) 15:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I go into reflex mode when I see an unreferenced biography.--Launchballer 15:43, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fix and keep. Here is a solid English-language source for Du Kang (also called Shao Kang) as a legendary founder of the Chinese liquor trade: Zhengping Li, Chinese Wine (Cambridge University Press, 2011), pp. 14ff. GBooks appears to have multiple additional sources consistent with this. --Arxiloxos (talk) 15:09, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep:
    • Peter Lovrick; Wang-Ngai Siu (1 January 2011). Chinese Opera: Images and Stories. UBC Press. pp. 155–. ISBN 978-0-7748-4445-1.
    • Jian Chen; Yang Zhu (23 November 2013). Solid State Fermentation for Foods and Beverages. CRC Press. pp. 102–. ISBN 978-1-4398-4496-0.
    • Yinke Deng (3 March 2011). Ancient Chinese Inventions. Cambridge University Press. pp. 51–. ISBN 978-0-521-18692-6.
    • Dwight B. Heath (1 January 1995). International Handbook on Alcohol and Culture. Greenwood Publishing Group. pp. 44–. ISBN 978-0-313-25234-1.
Etc. — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 01:02, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus (Non-admin closure) --Regards, MrScorch6200 (talk · contribs) 17:54, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. Airplay falls short of rotation. Releases not on an important label. Lacks coverage about him in independent reliable sources. Has a lot of sources but none are independent reliable sources that provide any depth of coverage about Ason. Reposting a video on a website is not independent coverage. The bio hosted on BBC is a Wikipedia mirror. SBTV and rightchordmusic do not have significant coverage. The best is probably freshonthenet but it's a blog and is only a paragraph. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. slakrtalk / 14:45, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. Lacks coverage about her in independent reliable sources. No significant roles in notable productions. Prod was removed with the dubious claim she has "mid-importance role in the upcoming film Captain America: The Winter Soldier". The imdb page used to support this statement does not list Doss at all, let alone for any "mid-importance" part. The claim of activism appears to be original research. It lists a 26 year old student Amanda Catherine Doss with no way of knowing if it's producer, actress, filmmaker Cat Doss. Even if those two things were supported by a reliable source they would not make her notable. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:27, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep What else are you looking for? The person's had quite a few film roles and is a reporter. Clearly people are looking for information about her since the page has been visited over 600 times in the past 90 days: http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/Cat_Doss. Its notable and people are looking for this information. How exactly would they be serviced by deleting the page? Perfect Orange Sphere (talk) 17:54, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What more am I looking for? Notability, verifiability, no original research. Just being in a few films does not make her notable. Just being a reporter is just someone doing a job, nothing notable there either. 600 views is not many, nothing special there (and how many of them are from you). Almost a third appear to be on the first day when the page was under construction, with you and new page patrollers looking at the page for construction reasons, not to look for info about her. Take them out and the figures are even more ordinary. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:07, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Circle of Magic. The Bushranger One ping only 01:57, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not a significant enough subject to have a stand-alone article. ☾Loriendrew☽ (talk) 04:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) --Regards, MrScorch6200 (talk · contribs) 18:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Even the FT article is just a press release -- n oactual accomplishments DGG ( talk ) 02:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:24, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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seems to be limited to the Boston University Campus. Despite the published article based probably on local interest and their press releases, not notable. DGG ( talk ) 02:31, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete A small local company. It was mentioned in the Boston Globe but still I am really questioning the notability. I must add its a nice idea behind the company. Let it grow abit. Let it add more towns and it will get notability. Untill then I vote delete.Stepojevac (talk) 17:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:25, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Prod was disputed. No non-trivial third party RS to support WP:CORP notability. This source (a non-notable marketing site) devotes about a sentence to Dealply. This source only mentions Dealply's parent company, devoting a paragraph to it. This one appears to be a press release, and the remaining ones simply ID Dealply as having been picked up by anti-malware software. OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:23, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Disclosure: I am the article's creator. Replaced press release with a reliable source and updated information based on source change. Fact remains that with millions of users, the company is a notable one. Continuing to find and addmore reliable sources regarding notability. Article does not warrant deletion. Ymd2004 (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The link you added is just a "success story" from another non-notable company that sold something to Dealply. That hardly qualifies under WP:RS. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:15, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete It's a notable topic, but the topic here is privacy-invasive browser toolbars, not Dealply specifically. I'd welcome a broad article on such, but this product is a footnote or section, not an article. No objection to userfying it as a starting point for such a broadened article though. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:35, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Good point, Andy; alternatively, that topic could easily be expanded in Browser toolbar. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:32, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'd rather keep browser toolbar for those (good or bad) that are literally toolbars in browsers. The privacy-invasive aspect is independently notable and it can apply to many things other than toolbars: from Comet Cursor to Angry Birds. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - Software article of unclear notability, lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. Sources provided are incidental mentions, not RS, or are associated with the company. A search did not turn up any significant RS references.Dialectric (talk) 12:41, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 01:57, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Minor organisation that never met WP:ORG or WP:GNG and that was dissolved last year, see [1] - no chapters were ever actually created. Dougweller (talk) 11:43, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was SPEEDY CLOSE (userfied during edit conflict). Cindy(talk) 11:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable software, only in the planning stages, nearly no Google hits (in Verbatim mode, to avoid instances of "niot so"). Also, the writer is using Wikipedia to communicate directly to readers in violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST. (See the original version, written in the first person plural before I had PRODded the article.) —Largo Plazo (talk) 11:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 01:57, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Software that doesn't seem to be notable. Fails WP:GNG & WP:NSOFT. ~ twsx | talkcont | ~ 10:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Snow close as delete. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:42, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't find any sources which suggest that this character is real, though I may just be looking in the wrong place. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 10:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:52, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable individual. More like a resume. Self-published references. The fact that he has had some photographs published does not make him notable. Was previously deleted at WP:AFD, but recreated. Rob Sinden (talk) 08:47, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • What I wrote last time around (5 January 2009) -- Hill seems to be no more than one in tens of thousands of rock photographers. He's young; he may go far. If/when he goes significantly further (solo exhibitions, books noted for the photographer as well as the subject matter, critical commentary), he can get an article; till then, 'fraid not. Delete. -- still seems apposite. But I'm open to evidence-based persuasion to the contrary. If this is deleted, then please also salt: a newly notable Peter Hill could of course still get an article. -- Hoary (talk) 09:06, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. The article shows no sign of notability as demonstrated by reliable, disinterested, sources; nor does it show any indication of notability even with unsourced claims. -Lopifalko (talk)
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The result was redirect to Ottoman Armenian casualties. Anything worthwhile can be merged from the history.  Sandstein  08:53, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This article has a serious number of issues. It has been tagged as original research and disputed material for over 6 years now. But more importantly, this is a classic case of WP:FORK. All of this content can be merged in the Armenian Genocide article if need be. As far as I can see, much of the information found in this article is on that page anyhow. Other pages include Ottoman Armenian casualties and Armenian Genocide survivors, which are almost the same topic and have almost the same information. All these may need to be merged or deleted. I think we should just focus with this article for now. Étienne Dolet (talk) 06:34, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. ‑Scottywong| communicate _ 05:10, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to fail WP:GNG as well as WP:NAUTHOR. PROD declined by article creator. I don't see any indication that he meets any of the Creative Professional guidelines. Safiel (talk) 23:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Don't Delete (by the creator of the article) I'm only using a single user account because I infrequently edit Wikipedia and don't see a need to keep a single voice on it. I had an earlier account that I've been unable to retrieve my password from, but it's immaterial to me. Furthermore, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA suggests, "Existing editors must assume good faith concerning the user account, act fairly, civilly, not bite newcomers, and remember everyone was new at some time. Care is needed if addressing single-purpose accounts on their edits." Also, I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me the difference between this article and the one on "Ernest Hill (author)", or, I strongly suspect, hundreds of others I could find if I had the time. Finally, no, I am not Joseph G. Peterson, nor associated with his publishers. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tidbit9 (talkcontribs) 17:13, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I just proposed deletion of the Ernest Hill article for pretty much the same reason that I took this one to AfD for. In any event, refer to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If I had time to run around to search and delete articles of insignificant people of any profession I would. But there are only so many hours in a day and so there are likely to be plenty of articles on Wikipedia that probably shouldn't exist. Safiel (talk) 22:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Beautiful Piece was reviewed in Prairie Schooner[3], Chicago Sun-Times[4], Illinois Times[5], Chicago Now[6]; Inside the Whale was reviewed in Publishers Weekly.[7] Right now I'm not sure if all of those are good sources (there's also a blogcritics.org review but I think they take anybody?). --Colapeninsula (talk) 17:17, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I overhauled this article to include review coverage and get rid of a lot of the irrelevant outlinks. One of Peterson's novels has been cited as an example of nonlinear narrative. Another has entered the literature as an exemplar of post-recession fiction.Dblobaum (talk) 17:30, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • STRONG DELETE per WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR, and because the claim of "cited as an example of nonlinear narrative" applies to almost anything written after Joyce's Ulysses that isn't trade fiction and doesn't make this guy's work special. Coverage required with WP:BKCRIT would make his work special.--ColonelHenry (talk) 18:06, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment WP:BKCRIT is not relevant. No one is suggesting an article for a book. The article in question is for an author of a body of work, which work has been reviewed in significant places and has been discussed in the critical literature.Dblobaum (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:37, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Four book reviews (I just added another) is enough for WP:NAUTHOR #1, multiple reviews. The Delete voters seem to be ignoring the book reviews which is how we usually determine notability of authors. -- GreenC 16:09, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Green's sources apparently show basic notability. That they are not in the article yet does not mean the subject is not notable (see WP:N, particularly #Article content does not determine notability)  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:30, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced BLP about an apparently non-notable playwright, and I could not find any reliable sources that would indicate notability. Jinkinson talk to me 23:43, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • DELETE unless this article was restructured into well-sourced encyclopaedic prose quickly. Wikipedia is not the place for posting a resume or curriculum vitae--otherwise I'd suggest monster.com or linkedin to the article's creator if that was his/her intent.--ColonelHenry (talk) 18:12, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'll work on the article if it closes Keep using the multiple reliable sources listed above per WP:GNG. AfD is a topic-level discussion not content-level. -- GreenC 01:42, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) --Regards, MrScorch6200 (talk · contribs) 18:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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References provided do not support the claims of notability made in the article. Not clear how this might meet WP:BIO RadioFan (talk) 23:22, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Following Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2014_February_18 I have deleted the article. Spartaz Humbug! 22:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) --Regards, MrScorch6200 (talk · contribs) 18:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. Late round NFL draft prospect that lacks any sort of notability right now. Yankees10 23:04, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Can be userfied upon request. ‑Scottywong| converse _ 05:09, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NGRIDIRON hasn't played in the NFL. Fails WP:GNG as he hasn't been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources. Hack (talk) 07:17, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Clear fail on WP:NGRIDIRON having not played professionally. Checking sources, I find none that seem to pass WP:GNG. Without playing professionally, we need to judge notability on his college career. Typically, offensive collegiate linemen do not generate enough press to pass and I believe this is the case here.--Paul McDonald (talk) 04:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. G7 slakrtalk / 09:19, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is just the primary document, no history, no discussion, just a transcript of the document.

It should be deleted here and moved to wikiquote. ColonelHenry (talk) 06:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy to have it moved to wikiquote. I am not familiar with this resource. The purpose of the entry - which I "translated" from a document dated 1825, which itself is a copy from the original MS in Latin from 1633, is to allow various other articles to reference important wording for the residents of the hospital in 1633. If wikiquote is the right place and it can be referenced , e.g. seeDr Guild Mortification etc.. for a wikipedia article - then OK.

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OK let's try another "location" It is rather confusing. All I want to do is 1 provide a series of wiki articles for others to read 2 provide detailed sources/ references so that others can evaluate the wiki articles.

I don't find time to enter into interesting discussions about process. My apologies. Just indicate where the material that I teanscribed might be located AND suggest how readers might easily link from the wiki article to the "evidence" Any help welcome Ray


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6/2/14 There is a general principle involved here. As I understand Wikipedia, the entries should contain sufficient information for readers to cross-reference and corroborate views/ facts/ etc. Together with the "open" system of moderation and editing this gives a reasonably good quality check on the content of entries. In the case of historical events/ places/ movements there are many original documents dating from medieval times. In one entry I have made Bishop Dunbar's Hospital I have the original Ms from James V (1531) giving authority to the establishment of the Hospital AND most importantly laying down the nature of the institution IN THE WORDING and SENTIMENTS of the day. The Dr Guild Mortification (1633) is a similar situation - except that so far I have been unable to trace the original MS. The Wikiquote entry is my “translation” of an document from 1825 which itself is probably a translation ( from the 17th C Scots). There are many other important contemporary or near contemporary documents that would be useful for readers of general entries to read in full. I think this is the heart of the issue. How should Wikipedia present documents (out of copyright etc etc) to allow readers corroborate / check claims made in entries? Ray Oaks

Documents can be uploaded on WikiSource. Wikipedia is not for original documents, or for original research using old documents; a Wikipedia article should be a summary of what people write about original documents. Note that documents on WikiSource aren't normally considered reliable sources for Wikipedia articles, but they can be referenced or linked to from Wikipedia. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:31, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Architect who has served on Memphis City Council for over 20 years. My guess is that the article was written primarily by someone close to source, and I am not certain as to whether this meets notability guidelines Flaming Ferrari (talk) 05:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:CREATIVE #3 and #4 apply to architects: if the person has played a major role in designing significant or well-known buildings, they are (generally) notable. Whether this is the case here, I'm less sure, and the person's buildings don't seem to have attracted Wikipedia articles. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:25, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The Bushranger One ping only 01:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet WP:NOTFILM.  —Josh3580talk/hist 04:39, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:32, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Can't see any grounds for notability here. Positions held to date are not considered inherently notable Flaming Ferrari (talk) 03:24, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. It definitely looks as if the "delete" votes are factually confused. Why are we going to tell Who's Who that we know better than they who the important, coverage-worthy people are? They and Debrett's provide substantial coverage of important people; they are reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, and their reputations are longstanding: Who's Who has published since the early Victoria era, and Debrett's has been established for more than a quarter-millennium. They're not just taking random Joe Bloggs off the street: they're professionals who are picking leading members of society. As noted at the other AFD, some factual stuff is submitted, but the problem with subject-submitted content is typically that it's published without review. This is completely different, as the editors review submitted content and news to ensure that the biographies remain up-to-date and accurate. See here; while content is partially autobiographical, it's independently researched in order to maintain reliability. Again, why would we tell the editors of these publications, established reference works for several lives of men, that we know better than they who the notable people are? Nyttend (talk) 15:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. No prejudice against recreation when notability is established. The Bushranger One ping only 01:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NGRIDIRON, hasn't played in the NFL. Fails WP:GNG, hasn't been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources. There is a large amount of routine coverage of the fact that he was drafted but this doesn't address him in significant detail. Hack (talk) 02:30, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 01:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertising. Not notable. Philafrenzy (talk) 01:07, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. When I searched I found mention of a brand by the same name that is sold by Trader Joe's, but isn't the same thing as this brand. Even if it was, the coverage wasn't in anything we'd consider to be a RS. There's nothing out there to show that this brand is ultimately notable. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 04:27, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) --Regards, MrScorch6200 (talk · contribs) 18:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. Philafrenzy (talk) 01:00, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:25, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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essentially promotional article for business service company. DGG ( talk ) 00:54, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:03, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to be promotional. Daily Mail is not a reliable source. No substantial coverage. Not WP:FUTUREPROOF. Barney the barney barney (talk) 17:43, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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21 January 2014 - The creator of this page has removed the 'Daily Mail' citation since it is marked as an unreliable source above. This page was not created for a promotional end, but as an informational guide for the growing number of readers inquiring about the process of online lending. There are other Wikipedia pages of its like: iwoca and kabbage for example. The creator of this page wishes to respect the wikipedia guidelines and will edit the page as needed, as well as add relevant citations. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asafbraverman (talkcontribs) 21:51, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE. The Bushranger One ping only 02:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I find this of very low notability, as does seem the rest of the world. The rewards have been given to e.g. George W. Bush, Vladimir Putin and Jacques Chirac, but that has apparently not been met by world news coverage (nor is it of interest to Wikipedia to link from these articles to this article). This appears to be the result of paid editing, and not necessarily because this is an article that meets our inclusion standards. Dirk Beetstra T C 03:43, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable record company lacking non-trivial support. Fails WP:COMPANY. reddogsix (talk) 00:23, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable despite the same awards that everyone in that industry has. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:21, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertising and not notable despite some awards like they all have. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:17, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Aegis Group. The Bushranger One ping only 02:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The Bushranger One ping only 02:02, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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One news story relating to Facebook, rest of sources seem weak. Firm not notable. This is an advert. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Probably keep – The article doesn't have a promotional tone, and it's likely that more pre-internet print sources are available, since the company was established in 1889. Coverage exists in The London Gazette. Additional sources available online include:
 – Northamerica1000(talk) 14:48, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Law firm of 100+ years old has unusual longevity; that's practically per se notable for larger firms. --Lquilter (talk) 22:16, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Northamerica1000. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:36, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment on sources. The Telegraph story is OK but the others mean nothing. Two are stories in local newspapers to the firm that are clearly based on press releases issued by the firm about somebody joining and staff doing some charity work. Every local newspaper is full of this stuff, they have to fill the pages with something. The reference to the London Gazette is also no good because that is an official government publication that exists precisely so that legal firms and the like can place notices about their clients, e.g. bankrupcy etc. None of these, apart from the Telegraph, is real journalism about the firm and lists like this in the deletion debate create a misleading impression for other editors about the level of notice that the subject has really had. Philafrenzy (talk) 03:00, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) --Regards, MrScorch6200 (talk · contribs) 18:05, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. Just another firm of lawyers. Coverage seems to be mainly about appointments. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Closed with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Mz7 (talk) 03:57, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Just another firm of lawyers. Not notable. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:43, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) --Regards, MrScorch6200 (talk · contribs) 18:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. Coverage is about appointments and who they have acted for rather than the firm itself which does not seem distinctive. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The Bushranger One ping only 02:02, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Old but not notable. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was no consensus. (Non-administrator closure.) NorthAmerica1000 11:38, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertising and not notable. Nothing distinctive about this law firm. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - with 60 attorneys, and being over 150 years old, this passes my standards. Bearian (talk) 20:47, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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  • Delete Notability of a law firm shouldn't be automatic nor any different from other companies. I've looked for useful sources and there are none that establish sufficient notability to meet WP:CORP. This was the best I could find. SmartSE (talk) 20:16, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Added cite. It would be odd if a 170+ year old firm didn't have a large number of non-web cites available. Has enough cites currently in order to not be deleted. VMS Mosaic (talk) 08:12, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • As in WP:MUSTBESOURCES? The cite you added doesn't demonstrate notability, and those already cited are trivial mentions in low-quality sources. I'm cutting the blatantly promotional content about charity events (which companies don't do this?). SmartSE (talk)
      • The firm has a separate charity law section, so their support of charities might be notable. I added more cites supporting some of the listed law sections and a little of the history. My point was that the available print references could only be found by someone willing to dig into archives of 1800s and 1900s newspapers, books, etc. Per WP:NTEMP, if the firm would have passed WP:GNG during any one of the 170+ years, then it passes WP:GNG today. VMS Mosaic (talk) 06:13, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very weak keepbut only if all unreferenced stuff (which is virtually everything and still with much promo) and living non-notable people are removed, which would reduce it to a short stub. I concur with SmartSE's WP:MUSTBESOURCES here, which would apply to all statements in the article. In reply to Bearian's "being over 150 years old" (above), the law firm example given through a nav-through provides verified reliable evidence for all statements – this article doesn't. The problem with articles such as this, with few to no sources to prove notability in Wikipedia terms, is that if it is kept, a whole load more promo and uncited stuff will ride in on its saddle. I have removed the wikilink to the wrong Joseph Kaye – cricketer, not builder. Acabashi (talk) 14:52, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Which currently living people are you referring to? It is standard practice to include the top level people in the Infobox especially if properly cited as done here. Hoovers is explicitly noted as a suitable source by WP:LISTED.VMS Mosaic (talk) 05:35, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to United States Senate election in Texas, 2014. The Bushranger One ping only 02:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet the criteria of WP:POLITICIAN or WP:GNG. Politically active dentist from Texas who has run for (and lost at the primary level) one House of Representatives seat, and is now running for (at the primary level so far) the Texas Senate seat in 2014. Local coverage related to his political bid only. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:35, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: he's notable for his large political donations, business activities, and political candidacies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orser67 (talkcontribs)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) --Regards, MrScorch6200 (talk · contribs) 18:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Stub article for a product with little notability on its own, part of a larger company. Did a redirect to the larger company but it was reverted. Mrfrobinson (talk) 15:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Strong Keep Very notable and influential cookware line used by some of France's most famous chefs (Paul Bocuse for example). Notability does not expire, and even if production of the line has ceased, it is still a notable subject. Sources include articles such as this one in New YOrk Magazine. Many more sources in French. And the company's website is helpful as well. Candleabracadabra (talk) 19:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable sports team. Hasn't been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources, fails WP:GNG Hack (talk) 08:26, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - They are runners up in the F-League in 2012 and have a number of futsalroos players in their side. The very fact that they play at the highest level of futsal in Australia should be notable in itself. The article perhaps needs improvement but not deletion.Simione001 (talk) 08:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There is no in-depth coverage of this club at all in reliable sources. Searches for this club yielded the following result - Fairfax News Store - nil; Factiva - two results mentioning that particular players play for this club; Ebsco Australia - one result showing the club in a fixture list; Google News - nil. National level clubs in outdoor football are usually given a free pass because they usually have had serious coverage but this does not apply to futsal clubs. Hack (talk) 09:20, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Indeed. Even a look at the club's own web page reveals a complete lack of any in-depth information. It's more of a holding page. Except, of course, for some video clips which reveal a complete absence of any spectators. Using the "competes at the highest level of a national league" could equally well be used to justify inclusion of tiddlywinks clubs or computer gamers. H6PAYH (talk) 23:04, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Delete Futsal has no visibility here in Australia and I had not even heard of it until seeing this article for deletion. The club itself was founded only in 2012 so has hardly had time to become notable. I would suggest there is no need for individual Australian futsal clubs to have Wikipedia pages unless/until the sport gets some level of independent coverage. H6PAYH (talk) 11:26, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't realise that there are degrees of strength in regards to deletion. Either delete or not.Simione001 (talk) 02:30, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever H6PAYH (talk) 03:49, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - plays in the top division of their sport in their country - article needs improving/expanding, not deleting. GiantSnowman 12:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to F-League. The fact that a team plays at the "highest level" (which apparently incorporates teams from only three of Australia's eight states and territories, but perhaps that's beside the point) of a particular sport in a particular country doesn't mean squat if that particular sport has very little presence or generates very little attention in that particular country, as is the case with futsal in Australia. Cricket probably has some presence in Kyrgyzstan, but that doesn't mean the local teams suddenly get Wikipedia articles. The search term "East Coast Heat" returns zero hits on Google News, which can hardly be said to constitute "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". However, "East Coast Heat" is probably a plausible search term, so we might as redirect to the league page – our readers can basically gain the same amount of information from the list of teams which already exists there. IgnorantArmies 13:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - per GS, team is playing in top level league in its country, so passes WP:FOOTYN. Concede there are potential GNG issues here though, but want to see the article expanded if possible, as per current consensus at WP:FOOTY on clubs. Fenix down (talk) 14:03, 29 January 2014 (UTC)`[reply]
'Comment' - FOOTYN makes no such claim to ONLY be concerned with 11-a-side. Fenix down (talk) 08:55, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're arguing about semantics. How exactly does this club meet WP:GNG? Hack (talk) 09:18, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think we have agreed that the article needs improving.Simione001 (talk) 09:26, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Arguing that futsal is inherently the same as football rather knocks a hole in the argument that this club plays in the top league. The top football league in Australia is the A League - this is beyond dispute. By arguing to consider futsal and football using the same criteria, teams playing variants of football in leagues other than the A League would not be playing in the top league. H6PAYH (talk) 01:44, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. But your argument is that futsal is a variation of football, therefore being successful at futsal should be seen as equivalent to being successful at football. This is simply not the case. A futsal club is not notable because futsal is not notable. It receives no coverage; it does not even seem to generate its own web presence. It is a pastime that is probably very enjoyable, but it is not commercial, outward-facing or notable in any way. Most people have never heard of futsal whcih might justify a Wikipedia page to explain what futsal is, but it makes it impossible to argue that teams participating in futsal are notable. In this case, you've got a team that was founded less than two years ago and zero public recognition. I can see only one person arguing for the retention of the page - makes me wonder whether it is being considered with a neutral point of view. H6PAYH (talk) 01:15, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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For some reason, these guys don't seem notable enough per the notability guidelines (especially for musicians and performers)...no "significant coverage". A mention on the Guardian's music blog is cool, but so are other not-really-notable garage bands they've reviewed on the blog that never went anywhere. I'll let AfD sort it out. ColonelHenry (talk) 06:04, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Agreed - this is not a notable band with independent coverage. H6PAYH (talk) 11:29, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - These guys are getting good enough coverage in the UK press right now. I've stuck a few more of the more notable sources into the article as references. This ought to be a fairly straight-forward keep-decision. Pasicles (talk) 00:54, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Though the article does need some developing, the subject is notable as per WP:BAND. I agree with the users above that there is considerable inclusion of the band in independent sources that can be used for verification. N4 (talk) 03:12, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:33, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Small dam which does not meet WP:GNG. Has been tagged for notability since April 2010; however, no improvements were made for establishing notability. No English search results, except different wikies based on this page. There may be more deep coverage in Farsi. Beagel (talk) 18:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not every hydroplant and dam is notable, particularly in the case of micro- and small hydro projects. You can't just asume a notability of every micro- and small scale project. If there are sources satisfying WP:GNG, the article should be kept. Otherwise, it should be deleted. During almost four years nobody has provided any reliable third party source providing a significant coverage addressing the topic directly and in detail. Just mentioning the name of the dam by sources is not enough for WP:GNG. As for Systemic bias, it may be an issue, of course, but unlikely. During the last four years, members of WP:DAMS, particularly user:NortyNort has expanded all similar stubs created by the same author. Remained only stubs where no sources available. There is also no article in Farsi. Beagel (talk) 06:05, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:07, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet notability guidelines for albums and musical works, album is not released (per WP:CRYSTAL). ColonelHenry (talk) 03:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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What do you mean it doesnt meet notability guidlines, the actual artist has confirmed the release of the album, that it actually exists, and numerous sites have confirmed it. The official tweet of the artist is not enough proof of that?. User:Alexandros (talk) 14:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. SmartSE (talk) 21:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable novel. There appear to be no professional reviews, and the article cites nothing but blogs and amazon reviews. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability per WP:MUSBIO not supported by any sources.  —Josh3580talk/hist 01:59, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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seems like very less or no sign of notability. Fails to satisfy WP:PEOPLE. No reliable independent reference is there. Mr RD 18:07, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nom, or redirect to Esalen per WP:CHEAP. Bearian (talk) 23:03, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The article as nominated was spammy, but I found sources in commercial databases that assert notability: "leaders in the neotantra movement", "at the forefront of a movement", "probably the best known teachers of Western Tantra", "described as the grandparents of the modern tantra movement". Integrated some into the article and deleted a lot of promo stuff. -- GreenC 06:07, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. The Bushranger One ping only 02:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Unremarkable coffee/doughnut shop chain; no independent sources; fails WP:CORP. Jinkinson talk to me 21:53, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I found coverage in a reliable independent source. Covered as part of the history of Canada's donut trade. Not the most earth shaking subject, but worth including. Some of their outlets remain in business. Candleabracadabra (talk) 19:25, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delte per WP:CORP and WP:SIGCOV. Reference cited gives the chain mention in just one sentence.Blue Riband► 13:52, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are mistaken. It is discussed on 4 different pages of that source including some significant coverage of the company's founding, history, number of stores, region of operations, discussion of the donut reailing environment when it was esablished and competitive pressures that developed over time. Donuts are a fairly big deal in Canada. And that's just the coverage from one source. Candleabracadabra (talk) 04:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Multiple mentions within a single source does not make WP:SIGCOV. If there is more than "just the coverage from one source" it should not present a problem to include those sources to support the chain's notability. Blue Riband► 02:22, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment A few odd sources is all I could find. Probably need someone with access to Canadian databases.
  • Hamilton Spectator (2/05/2002). "Police Charge Coffee Shop Mooner". Quote: "A woman who mooned customers in a Hamilton [Donut Diner] coffee shop and shouted abuse at them Tuesday morning has been charged with creating a disturbance." (Database: EBSCO)
  • Toronto Star (06/16/2004) "Now this is good toast". Quote: "Toast enthusiasts are a strange breed. Like the Connecticut woman who posted "Donut Diner: The Most Delicious Toast In The Universe" on Epinions.com about her favourite highway-side shop near Brantford, Ont. This is, bar none, the most surreal review I have read on my home province," one reader groused." (Database: EBSCO)
  • Hamilton Spectator (12/16/2009). "Store Good For What Ails". Quote: "And at the drive-thru window left over from the Donut Diner that used to occupy this space, he serves $2 bowls of soup, his grandma's recipe." (Database: EBSCO)
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  • Keep. Enough commentary in sourcing exists. By being a defunct franchise, the article is not promoting anything, and is to be less harshly judged under WP:CORP. Historical topics get more leeway. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The one source gives the chain one sentence on two pages and a passing mention on the third. Couldn't find any significant sources. "Major competitor" to Tim Hortons? I think not. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:28, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Regarding potential for a merge, a merge discussion can continue on an article talk page. (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:39, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The sources for tollywood boxoffice are often and almost always unreliable....I don't think this article will ever be accurate and accountable..... ƬheStrikeΣagle sorties 08:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proof
South Indian cinema never crossed 100 crore mark
Dookudu touched 1 Billion mark
Attarintiki Daredi is highest grossing Telugu film
Eega collects 125 crore
Gabbar Singh collects 1.5 billion
From the above, you can see that Attarintiki Daredi is universally accepted as the highest grossing telugu film by collecting ~80 crore. But other sources including TOI, India Today show other movies grossing as much as 1.5 billion. When the most reliable sources like TOI become so unreliable, don't expect other sources to be better with some reporting box office of Nayak and other movies in excess of 190 crore! This list will never be complete so I hereby propose to delete it and clear the mess. See the page history and you will realize that the fans of Mahesh Babu and Pawan Kalyan are already fighting for the first place... Thanks, ƬheStrikeΣagle sorties 08:19, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep,

South Indian Cinema never cross 100 crore mark is true in case of share collections which is considered everywhere. And Attarintiki Daredi share collections are ~ 80 crores is also true but gross collections may be 150+ crores. Know clearly what showed in TOI and India Today, then show proofs. If we maintain with proper references we can give real information. So if you can, help to improve the article. Merging results List of highest-grossing Indian films appears like List of highest-grossing Tollywood (Telugu) films . Phani M (talk)


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The result was no consensus. (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Promotional article on non-notable person. Article on this person previosly deleted: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarah-Jayne Gratton. I'd speedy this, but being unable to view original article am not sure it meets the strict criteria. TheLongTone (talk) 15:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a considerable improvement over the deleted article. It's no longer a promotional piece as suggested and has been deemed to be within the scope of WikiProject Biography, as indicated on the article's talk page. {{WikiProject Biography|living=yes}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.140.96.21 (talkcontribs) 18:04, 17 January 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, the new article is significantly better than the previous one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbaniston (talkcontribs) 09:08, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
CommentAbove added by article creator, a SPA. Article has unfounded claims and relies on flaky sources.TheLongTone (talk) 09:34, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I would regard Cambridge Business magazine, In Spire magazine and Glyndŵr University as credible secondary sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidbaniston (talkcontribs) 23:45, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You might. The university I'll buy: it's used to support the claim of an MBA. The Cambridge Business magazine is a useless cite, since the url just dumps you at the head of a 100plus page pdf document. As to the last, I beg to differ.TheLongTone (talk) 00:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be possible to directly link to the article in Cambridge Business magazine. The article is on page 69? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.140.96.21 (talkcontribs) 10:30, 28 January 2014

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The secondary sources provided in this article establishes notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.140.96.21 (talkcontribs) 10:30, 28 January 2014
Where, I don't see many. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The interview with Gratton in the Cambridge magazine is comprehensive and confirms her notability, along with her early career as an actress. There are other articles, which are referenced too; again, establishing notability and validates the Wiki article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.140.96.21 (talk) 11:20, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The In Spire piece is useless as a cite, since it principally selfmade assertions. It's not exactly a heavyweight source, and the Cambridge magazine is little better. The woman is a relentless self-promoter: it would be remarkable if there was zero coverageTheLongTone (talk) 01:31, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to The Freedom Writers Diary.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet notability guidelines per WP:BKCRIT. All assertions of notability are unsourced.  —Josh3580talk/hist 05:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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apparently one person's theory. I can not really fix it, because I cannot figure out what it is talking about. DGG ( talk ) 06:38, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete, largely because of the total lack of clearly-pertinent English sources. Take something that's published entirely in a different language, and you could write about what the sources say on that topic, but it would have to be something specifically about the foreign-language phrase. We might well be able to have an article on "Mediatisierung kommunikativen Handelns", talking strictly about the different German sources that explore the idea, but something that's deeply theoretical (funny how "highly theoretical" and "deeply theoretical" are the same...) and not in English really can't cover the concept itself appropriately. All we can do is basically an extended literature review right now, without bringing in English sources to establish facts in fields that might be related to the topic. Nyttend (talk) 16:06, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:26, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is little more than an extended promotion for Dr.Mew's Biobloc Orthotropics® method WQUlrich (talk) 23:46, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I would say Delete this article which looks like an advertisement, but it would be good to redirect this and the other product names (such as Twin bloc) to an article on the broader subject of orthodontic jaw posturing devices. Is there a term or generic phrasing for this type of product so we can cover it encyclopedically? Candleabracadabra (talk) 02:11, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE The Bushranger One ping only 02:05, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:BIO and WP:DIPLOMAT. being an ambassador does not grant automatic notability. all the coverage merely confirms he has been an ambassador rather than anything indepth. LibStar (talk) 23:37, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - I found more hits using the name "AM Fachir", but since most of the pages were in Indonesian and I don't have any knowledge of Indonesian, I couldn't tell if they were reliable or not. Nevertheless, from a cursory look, with the help of Google Translate, I can say that none of the hits I saw were actually about him; at most, they were statements by him or were releases from Indonesia's Foreign Ministry. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:06, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable Bazonka (talk) 22:10, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete I would think it's a speedy deletion candidate. I don't see an assertion of notability. There is also an issue about the subject or someone apparently close or related to the subject creating and editing the article. Candleabracadabra (talk) 02:26, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:06, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable athlete - fails WP:GNG as he hasn't been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources. Fails WP:NGRIDIRON as he has not played in the NFL. Also fails WP:NCOLLATH as he was not the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources for his college career beyond mentions in routine coverage. Hack (talk) 04:38, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete it stinks to be an offensive linemen for Wikipedia, but they just hardly ever have any coverage to surpass WP:GNG and that is also the case here. Without winning a national award at the college level and having not played professionally, I cannot find any measure to pass WP:N or any other measure at this time.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:34, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Strong delete. WP:N has not been established here. Article also fails WP:V. N4 (talk) 03:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Requirements aren't met, so deletion is the necessary outcome, however I think separate notability guidelines should be established for offensive linemen since it is really hard for them met notability requirement especially player like Johnson who are Practice Squad members.--Rockchalk717 00:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. After over a month and three relistings, there is no consensus at this time regarding retention or deletion of the article. There are distinct possibilities of a page move and/or merge(s), the discussion of which can continue on an article talk page. (Non-administrator closure.) NorthAmerica1000 11:46, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a cleverly crafted article about the subject but who's fundamental notability for an article here requires discussion. He appeared briefly in a TV reality show. The article appears stuffed with fluff to make the subject significantly more notable than they are. Leaky Caldron 20:08, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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An article about him has been created on the London Wiki - possibly needing some development, so a compromise with WP can be reached. Jackiespeel (talk) 00:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Third relist rationale - While there is a decent quantity of discussion here, there is not much policy-based discussion on whether or not this individual passes WP:GNG (and why, or why not). I think the discussion is close to attaining a consensus, but not quite there yet. ‑Scottywong| converse _ 05:06, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Most sources refer to/highlight his appearance on The Apprentice, which does not merit notability. The article, as the nomination states, is fancruft to keep him visible. — Wyliepedia 17:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. slakrtalk / 14:44, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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They are big but not distinctive or notable. This is pure advertising. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If a business is unusually large, that is distinctive. James500 (talk) 06:29, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, but the books aren't about them are they? They are mostly legal directories like yellow pages. Every firm has an entry. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:09, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you think every firm gets an entry? Where does it say that? Link please. James500 (talk) 04:09, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The Lawyer" has an overview of the firm here. They say it is the 75th largest by turnover. I can't access the "The Lawyer UK 200 2013" either, but I suspect that is because I am neither subscribed nor logged in. Sources are not required to be free. James500 (talk) 19:28, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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That is manifest nonsense. There are reliable sources, particularly in GBooks (e.g. Chambers [17] and Pritchard's "The Legal 500" [18]). The issue that has been raised is the depth of coverage (which I am not sure I agree with since the firm is mentioned on 43 pages in one book and 33 in the other and some of the comments don't look like entries in a phonebook). James500 (talk) 03:52, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Redacted. If you address the issue - depth of coverage - I'll redact the delete too, otherwise I'll stay with it. Szzuk (talk) 18:12, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:06, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails PORNBIO and the GNG. No nonscene awards, just nominations, No independent, reliably sourced content. No reliably sourced biographical content. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 23:29, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:06, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails PORNBIO and the GNG. No nonscene awards, just nominations, No independent, reliably sourced content. No reliably sourced biographical content. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 23:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) NorthAmerica1000 11:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The only RS ref I could locate was the LA Times story cited in the article, which is primarily based on an interview with the subject and not usable to show notability. In addition, there seems to be a flurry of additions of this guys name to different articles, prompting me to suspect this may be a promotional article. John from Idegon (talk) 23:01, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He may qualify simply as part of the production team for two films that were nominated for or received major Best Film awards; The Straight Story was nom'd for Palm d'Or, Mulholland Drive]] one several critics best-picture awards. I know that the Oscar for Best Picture is considered a producers award; do we apply that logic to other awards? --Nat Gertler (talk) 23:33, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ‑Scottywong| chat _ 04:58, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This seems to be a minor initiative of one particular university - I don't think this is notable. Khendon (talk) 19:05, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Agree with nom's assessment. This page was evidently created by a single-purpose account as part of a larger effort to establish WP presence for faculty/programs at a particular institution. Aside from the text being essentially WP:PROMOTION, none of the WP:RSs actually discuss WIC, but are instead about larger topics like entrepreneurship, women in mathematics, etc. I did some searching for WIC-specific sources, but aside from web and Facebook pages, I could only find the conference paper from 2012 written by the founder of the program. Agricola44 (talk) 17:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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Disagree - Should not be deleted. In regards to not being notable, other university's have adapted this program at their school. For example, Gonzaga University, Kettering University, Lawrence Tech, University of Detroit Mercy, Ohio Northern University, and Rice University all have adapted this initiative.

This program is being used across the country in not only college settings, but also high schools to help develop an entrepreneurial mindset in students at an early age.

Rice link - http://oedk.rice.edu/innovate SR College in India also has a program - http://www.srecwarangal.ac.in/CED/home.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.134.208.22 (talk) 21:36, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What you are saying implies that this program was the first of its kind and inspired those at the other institutions you named. In that case, I think I would agree that SLU WIC could be notable, if sources could be found – so far, there still are none. However, it appears that WICs were going on at other institutions long before the one at SLU (evidently founded in 2011). For example, the UMass WIC was already established by 2005. Agricola44 (talk) 16:19, 12 February 2014 (UTC).[reply]
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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 20:15, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I suspect this fails WP:SAL due to a lack of reliable sources discussing the topic as a group. Most of the current referencing currently consists of primary sources that demonstrate that yes, such and such a song was used in an Apple ad. As part of WP:BEFORE, I located two probably reliable articles that constitute the right sort of reference, and added them as a new Further reading section. But Mashable is a pretty light source, and the Rolling Stone article was more about the artists than the songs or Apple's advertising. There are also blog sources out there, like this. Perhaps there are more reliable sources out there, but with a topic as intensely studied as Apple, the fact that I'm not finding more is a red flag for me.

Even if the article is kept, it could certainly use some trimming. Do we really need to know every song Apple played at its developers conferences? --BDD (talk) 18:26, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the only known source for all apple songs, please do not delete! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.191.66 (talk) 04:18, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Due to our policy against original research, that's actually a reason to delete, not keep. --BDD (talk) 19:06, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should keep the page, it's very informative (in my opinion). Lack of sources is correct and a lot of them should be added. If it's going to be deleted, please save the article anywhere else! --TheMostAmazingTechnik (talk) 18:17, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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  • Delete or possibly transfer some information to Apple Inc. advertising. This list is insanely over-detailed. There's nothing wrong with discussing Apple's advertising and their use of music in advertising, since they're a major and innovative advertiser making considerable use of music. But this list goes well beyond describing their advertising to listing every song they played at any event. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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That's probably good, because there's clearly interest in the piece, even if Wikipedia is not the proper place to host it. I'm sure some WP:HARDWORK has been done on this, but that's not relevant to whether or not the article should be deleted. --BDD (talk) 20:27, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's what i'm sayin' - if WP's the wrong place, Wikia has an english spoken music page where it can be added to. i already did. Nevertheless, i hate it when hard work got despised... Cheers, goodie ^^ --Saviour1981 (talk) 23:39, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Unfortunately, due to low participation after 3 listing periods, I cannot say with certainty that there is a consensus here to delete or a consensus here to keep. This is closed with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Mz7 (talk) 04:01, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not in worldcat, tho some e-novels are. References are basically press releases. Accepted at AfC . Maybe there is something here I do not understand that makes for notability . DGG ( talk ) 18:20, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 08:16, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The references are either press releases or trivial or related to him. Nothing in his career seems to show any importance.

Accepted from AfC DGG ( talk ) 17:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable actress. Only claim to notability is a nomination at a relatively minor film festival. (The Madrid International Film Festival is not even listed in the List of film festivals in Europe.) Much of the press she garners is as AnnaLynne McCord's sister, but notability is not inherited. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Subject is not notable as per WP:N or WP:BIO. Further, the claim to notability is for a role (not necessarily a notable leading role) in a non-notable film for which she was nominated for (not necessarily won) an award at a non-notable festival. There is no real claim to notability here. N4 (talk) 02:42, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Computer-aided audit tools.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:37, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Mostly WP:OR article and provides little useful information. For the OR part, the only third-party source cited is a 2004 comparison, which however is way outdated to be useful for the modern software being compared here, except perhaps for choosing some of the comparison criteria. A lot of the criteria used in the wiki page don't appear in that source though. All other refs are primary sources (manufacturers' pages). And most of the software compared actually implements most of the features. The exceptions are minor and those criteria in which there are some differences are not actually among those listed in the 2004 comparison cited. So, it's hard to conclude that this page is anything but WP:OR. Someone not using his real name (talk) 16:59, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge This article provides a good bit of useful information on CAAT products, including lists of criteria by which to judge CAAT systems. But at AfD, utility counts for little. The first reference in the article, a secondary RS [19] provides a basis for a comparison of systems per WP:CSC. But the article goes quite a but beyond that and in the process synthesizes quite a bit of information. While the synth material could be removed, there is still the problem of a second RS. Without multiple RS, this article fails WP:GNG notability guidelines. But per WP:PRESERVE, verifiable information should be preserved instead of deleted. The first ref and possibly a comparison table based on it should be merged into Computer-aided audit tools, the parent article. --Mark viking (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 13:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Won a local award but don't seem to be more generally notable. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:14, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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No third-party reliable sources about the subject of the article to establish notability. Gamaliel (talk) 05:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Well.... third-party reliable sources about the subject of the article are present. You may now debate on notability. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 08:52, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:37, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't appear to have sources to support notability. I couldn't find a link to the prior AfD discussion on Talk, but it looks like it was previously deleted? CorporateM (Talk) 03:44, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: In 2008 there was a Prod (rationale "Apparent COI creation, no sources given, none added in almost one year") so I don't think there was ever an AfD or deletion. An awkward one this, for me FA has been an influential publisher, both of its journal and books on psychoanalysis and related, but I recognise that evidencing notability is not going to be easy. AllyD (talk) 07:59, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak Delete: I've had a look for this publishing house among various resources, they don't seem particularly noticeable. ISBS says of them;
Free Association Books (UK) specializes in psychiatry and psychoanalysis; and one of their focuses within those fields
is child and adolescent studies. They also have a strong backlist. The press continues to make available, in English
translation, pertinent works in psychoanalysis. Cultural and sociological studies are growing fields for this press,
whether they are producing books on the culture surrounding drug use, or representing child sexual abuse in the media,
They also publish in gender studies, health and the intersection of technology and health, the last particularly through
books by Michel Odent, a noted obstetrician.
and I could find nothing further. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SPACKlick (talkcontribs) 15:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:07, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - BLP1E is usually applied to cases where the person is well-known for a single event and in this case we're talking more about a series of events. That said, the series of events is really all about the same thing. These sorts of stories are often followed up by local news outlets as a "where are they now" or "remember this guy we told you about last year". But that isn't really the same as being notable for something else - it's still the same event. I don't think there's any enduring notability here. Stalwart111 08:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:37, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article has no sources and makes no credible claim to notability WP:N per WP:GNG and WP:TVSERIES. Article was previously nominated for speedy deletion (A7) which was declined on grounds that although only barely, there was just enough to preclude a speedy delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm not clear on how a broadcast television soap opera isn't a claim of notability. Isn't it defacto notability? Is the channel its broadcast on minor? Is the viewership small? I am not being rhetorical, I'm not understanding why this article shouldn't be kept. Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's a fair question. According to WP:TVSERIES there is a presumption of notability IF the program airs on a national or regional basis, which is not asserted in the article. Further it reads... "In either case, however, the presence or absence of reliable sources is more definitive than the geographic range of the program's audience alone. For instance, a purely local talk radio program can be notable enough for inclusion if it played a role in exposing a major political scandal, and a national television program may not be notable if it was cancelled too quickly to have garnered any significant media coverage." In short, we don't know if it's notable because it has not made any credible claim and has no sources for us to make a prudent determination. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:59, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NOTNEWS Not notable, coverage limited to time of event. TheLongTone (talk) 00:27, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The Bushranger One ping only 02:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. No real assertion of notability other than being the half-sister of a celebrity. Refs confirm she exists and that her half-sister was famous but nothing else.  Velella  Velella Talk   13:15, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - She may not be notable internationally wise, but she is a well known and notable actress in Mexico. A person does not need to have international notability in order to be notable. A person can be notable in his/her nation or local home town. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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No special notability asserted. No evidence f any particular notability. No in-line citations and ISBN is unrecognised for book listed in "Further reading". Some evidence of WP:COI in the authorship of this article  Velella  Velella Talk   12:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Abstain. No major Google Book hits (as in, no biography, even footnote-size); he is mentioned as a creator of several works in a dozen or so books. He has a footnote bio in an (online only?) article at [23] (notable Polish newspaper, Nasz Dziennik). He is one of the subjects (but not the only one) in an article describing his family's artistic history, at a regional Polish portal/newspaper ([24]). Inconsequential mention in [25]. Two offline sources impossible to verify; one of them is supposedly an article dedicated to him in a magazine that doesn't have an entry on pl wiki. Nope, not seeing enough to save it. PS. Pl wiki deletion discussion started at pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/biografie/2014:02:03:Ludwik Konarzewski (junior). PPS. Polish wiki editors were able to find some better sources; two local newspaper mentions at [26] and [27] show regional notability. As this is now too borderline for my tastes, I am changing to abstain. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. A local artist with somewhat limited exposure, but a square is named after him. I'd say, it would be probably procedural in here. Now cleaned up with greatly expanded reference section. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 17:57, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - as he seems to have quite a bit of info, the place he's from needs some "claim to fame" and his Dad's page is even smaller and isn't marked for deletion - could do with some pictures of his art or his statues though. Note: I tend to swerve towards keeping things unless there's a really good reason not to. Escottf (talk) 16:32, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:30, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Using Wikipedia for their sales catalogue. Massive prune needed, unclear if there's a notable company hiding within here at all. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to have not "been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources." So, lacks notability, unless someone can find sources. Danrok (talk) 14:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) NorthAmerica1000 11:54, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails to meet general notability guidelines due to lack of reliable sources. Ewilen (talk) 11:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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potential vanity piece, unsure as to whether the World Record claims warrant inclusion Stevenbarker100 (talk) 11:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Paul Czege. The Bushranger One ping only 02:09, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This article fails to meet general notability guidelines due to lack of independent reliable sources on the topic. Ewilen (talk) 10:42, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thinly sourced biography of questionably notable actor. Only reference is to subject's own webpage biography which is also listed in the external links. Prose outside of the filmography section consists of 2 sentences. Hasteur (talk) 22:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NACTOR works on the basis that Carman will be covered in reviews/previews/critical studies of his work, much of which will only be found in Australian libraries: the National Library of Australia claims to have material.[28] By the way, it's not WP:OSE to refer people to an article that may contain useful information. If anyone is making arguments to avoid, you're guilty of WP:VAGUEWAVE there. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:42, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: will be covered is WP:CRYSTAL. Prove it or the article has to go. It's currently just a bunch of listings with no verify ability. The article must be backed up by multiple reliable sources as it's a BLP. Hasteur (talk) 12:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Add Oz (1976 film) to the above list. Carman has enough good roles and has enough coverage for GNG. Beck, Chris (23 September 2006), "Double exposure", The Age and Munro, Ian (12 January 1997), "Between Jobs", Sunday Age both have good coverage of Carman. There is also Kyriakou, Dimi (23 November 2009), "Ghost bandit haunts series", Caulfield Glen Eira/Port Philip Leader and Byrne, Fiona (5 October 2003), "Carman didn't wannabe snubbed", Sunday Herald Sun. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Duffbeerforme And why did you not read the very first line of that section? If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. Again, all that's being done is obstructing the nomination and improving the article. All you're do is waving your hands at vague policies without dealing with the problem. FIX IT. Hasteur (talk) 13:12, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"obstructing the nomination"? Is anyone that disagrees with you obstructing your goals? It that how it works? Hasteur And why did you not read the very first line of that section? If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. Since Carmen has received such coverage he is presumed to be suitable. All you're do is waving your hands at vague policies without dealing with the problem. FIX IT. Try also reading some of the other policies you refer to. Crystal does not talk about things that have already happened. referring to Gerry Connolly like that was not a OSE argument. Providing suitable references is not a vague wave. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:28, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 08:22, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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No doubt a sad event for the ones involved, but is it notable enough for inclusion in WP? I think this fails WP:EVENT and WP:NOTNEWS. -- P 1 9 9   20:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:28, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Couldn't establish WP:NOTABILITY Boleyn (talk) 18:41, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Has the rare honour of being named by the King himself and having a banner presented by the Queen. Given the fact that brass bands are a major part of Maltese public life, I think this qualifies as sufficient notability. Needs a good copyedit though. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:34, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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article on a single academic program within a school of journalism. The school of journalism is notable, the program not. It might be worth am ention in the main article, but I'm not even sure of that, and the name is too generic to be a useful redirect--anyone lookingfor it would look for the article on the school. DGG ( talk ) 06:55, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Strong Keep Award winning journalism program that has produced several notable works and received very substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. At the very least it would be more appropriate to merge into the parent subject (The Journalism School) rather than engage in wholesale deletion of a program that has been influential and significant in its achievements in the field of journalism. Candleabracadabra (talk) 03:27, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, received recognition in the form of awards, also good secondary source coverage. — Cirt (talk) 13:12, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:16, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sure these people are doing great work, but I just don't see independent coverage here. Almost all the links come from the project's own site, and the others don't help in terms of WP:N either. And, needless to say, the article was created by a single-purpose account. - Biruitorul Talk 04:12, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Hi, I added this entry and I followed all the suggestions from the wikipedia editors when I created it, they seemed to be ok with it at that point. I am not sure why it is a problem to include here a media organization that's fighting corruption like many other journalism organizations do. You have so many other similar NGOs on wikipedia that are not marked for deletion. RISE is member of some of those organizations, like Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, which is also on wikipedia. This article is not meant to promote RISE Project for any hidden interests, it is here just to inform the readers about the existence of this initiative that fights corruption in Romania and the region. RISE's work has been quoted in media all around Europe and beyond, something that I didn't include there just to avoid being accused of a promotional entry (you can find it quoted just by simple search on google). I think the reasons for which you are asking for its deletion are not realistic and it's an exaggeration on your part, not a very fair attitude. I was not seeking to create any promotional material for RISE here, just basic public information. And I also don't see why it is a problem that this is the first entry I created...there are just too many unfounded accusations from your part, which seems a bit biased to me. Thanks Lra2014 (talk) 09:42, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment2 Biruitorul • Gene93k: I added more external references now, that should meet your observations above, let me know what you think.Lra2014 (talk) 11:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment This article definitely has references to reliable sources but none of the sources specifically mentions the RISE Project in detail. If this article is going to be deleted, it will be because of the lack of reliable coverage. Finding reliable sources is one thing but Wikipedia relies on significant coverage. versace1608 (talk) 22:59, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Echoing your comments, versace1608, yes, the article has four or five more or less reliable sources that mention the project. However, the coverage is never about the project itself, but rather about its activities or the opinions of people associated with it. And it's usually mentioned only in passing. What we have as of now doesn't seem to me to fulfill the spirit of WP:ORG. - Biruitorul Talk 02:59, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Please let me know if I get it correctly - you mean other sources that cover RISE Project but without interviews of the members? I see the point, however, RISE Project is an organization made of a group of people and therefore, the members are those who are asked to talk about its work, it's quite rare that others write about an active media entity without contacting its current members for interviews - it's actually normal to seek members' opinions in this field. Plus, it's an anti-corruption journalism organization, it uncovers organized crime networks and corruption cases, everybody who features it wants to hear more about the investigations, how journalists work and what tools they use, their results etc, and that means, you will always have a member talking about these in full knowledge. This is what happens with most similar organizations in the region. Plus, we need to take into account that such organizations are part of a new trend in journalism in Eastern Europe, they haven't been around for decades like the traditional journalism centers from the US. - So, I am not sure that what you are asking here is possible in this case. It is a normal thing to ask generally but it might just not fit in here. What I can do is to add the sources that write about RISE Project but there will always be a member interviewed in there, there is also a TacticalTech documentary (Exposing the Invisible - Our Currency is Information) with a profile of one of RISE members and filmed at RISE Project if that's appropriate to add there.Lra2014 (talk) 06:16, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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How long does it take to decide on this entry's deletion or acceptance? I see it's frozen at the moment and I would like to know what to do with it. I wouldn't want to keep it with the deletion mark forever. Thank you Lra2014 (talk) 16:49, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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  • Keep - Per refs, appears to be WP:GNG. VMS Mosaic (talk) 05:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I also consider Rise Project an important group of investigative journalism from Romania. One example: they contributed essentially to the now famous "romanian autumn demonstrations" of 2013 (romanians fighting against Rosia Montana project in the Carpathian mountains), when they (Rise) published the secret contracts between the romanian state and the Gabriel Resources Co. These contracts were hidden from public view since about 15 years, and Rise P. were the ones able to make them available. (media coverage to be found here: [2]) I really do not know another journalists group with this importance in Romania today, perhaps except EFOR (but EFOR are rather economists and law specialists, not journalists). Horia mar (talk) 21:17, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: Horia mar has supplied a press release issued by the project itself, which hardly counts as independent coverage. VMS Mosaic has not done even that. Just what specific "refs", VMS Mosaic, demonstrate that this topic "has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"? - Biruitorul Talk 01:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Gina Keatley. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability isn't demonstrated by the references, which are either trivial or directly related to the production. A google search turned up no significant editorial coverage. JSFarman (talk) 00:24, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Wizardman 01:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Unreferenced for seven years. Looked around and couldn't find any sources. Only directed a handful of films, and only mentions in books are film repositories just listing him when noting Daybreak in Udi with no extra information. Wizardman 17:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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(article shoud be moved to "Max Anderson (director)" though). --Rob Sinden (talk) 16:03, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give credit to Aymatth2 for the expansion. I looked around and couldn't find anything, how he found all that is impressive. Suffice to say, nom withdrawn. Wizardman 01:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Mann family. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence of notability, sources, or significance. Unreferenced for seven years. Wizardman 16:46, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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CSD removed with the rationale that "the book about him establishes notability". I don't buy that, can find no trace of the work (although William Cooper is a pretty miserable name to punch into search engines) & doubt that it was more than an obit published as a pamphlet. Only substantial refereence is to the man's tomb. This may be notable, but I don't think the person is. TheLongTone (talk) 03:46, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sloppy work on my part, should have tried using the title of the workk, which, as Google books shows, is, as I supposed, a very short privately printed work, and in no way establishes notability,TheLongTone (talk) 03:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not much is known about him, that is true - but he is still remembered in York after 200 years - can that be said of other minor celebrities listed on Wikipedia? He wrote books, had a book written about him, re-built an important building (Judges' Lodgings) and is commemorated by a magnificent monument in York Minster.

I am sure there is a lot more - see e.g. [33] and [34]

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Have you actually read the "book"? As noted, it is no more than one would expect of a funeral oration. Twelve pages, of which four are text. It's a pamphlet, not a book.TheLongTone (talk) 12:17, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is an 18th Century figure with coverage in the 18th and 19th centuries. Writing about someone back then was a much bigger deal than it would be today and amounts to significant coverage. Add to that the sources are still extant today to show that coverage in these books is meaningful. Certainly there was enough significance to not tag for CSD. And sometimes quality of coverage is more important than volume. If there is enough to show notable achievements, then that suffices. If the article creator could add more sourcing, that would help a lot to keep the article. (Could someone do something with the formatting of this discussion. Hard to read.) Dlohcierekim 15:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jb1944: there are claims of significance here that are not made in the article. It would be helpful to put them in the article with sourcing. You mention other claims of significance in the article. It would be helpful to elaborate and source there. Dlohcierekim 15:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Chick-fil-A#Advertising. The Bushranger One ping only 02:13, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Small t-shirt printing company whose only claim to fame is a brief incident involving Chick-fil-A. Beyond that, not notable: a blimp on the radar screen of the media at the time, with no lasting results. Drmies (talk) 03:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:33, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The song was never a single, it was just a B-side, following which it was an album song. It never charted. It is only discussed in the context of the first single or the album. See the Allmusic page about the song, and another Allmusic page confirming the B-side status. Binksternet (talk) 20:22, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep or Merge. There is a lot of information on this article that, if it can be verified, makes this song pass the bar of notability - particularly that they shot a promotional film for it. Taken as a whole this is too much to merge into the articles about either the A side or the album, however if its not all verifiable then a reduced summary of what is would be fine on either one of those articles (and I don't really have a preference which). I don't see any cause for deletion though. Thryduulf (talk) 21:51, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I have added an NME reference to the existence of the promo film. The NME page contains a YouTube video of it. There is also a mention of the film in a book at Google books. I know there's a trick to using that as a ref but I've forgotten it at the moment. I don't think the song being a B-side disestablishes notability, as there have been notable songs that were only ever B-sides. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 22:39, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 21:21, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This person fails WP:BLP. There are no reliable sources with significant coverage. The article is also an autobiography (the author reveled himself to be Ambrose Nshala at Wikimedia Commons). The same article was already speedily deleted twice, and is now recreated with some "references" none of which points to a reliable source. Vanjagenije (talk) 01:20, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - I would like to declare that I'm the author of the article and it is true that it is a biography of a living person. However, I believe the proposal to delete it is based on the deletion history of the article on wikipedia. Unfortunately the first time I created it, I was not well versed with creating articles and references, so I failed to include reliable sources because of the syntax and not because they were not available.I request this article be judged in this light and not the shadow of the past. AfroPianist (talk) 09:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most references made are reliable. I have also deleted most personal information from unofficial sources I could not reference. AfroPianist (talk) 09:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I also confirm that I am not Ambrose Nshala, though I declared at Wikimedia Commons the photos I uploaded were copyrighted to him, because he gave me explicit permission to do so, having contacted him. AfroPianist (talk) 09:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • You uploaded two photos of Nshala at Wikimedia Commons and tagged them both as "own work". In the "author" field you typed "[[User:AfroPianist|Ambrose Nshala]]" which clearly implies that AfroPianist and Ambrose Nshala are the same person. If you are not him, and you have the permission from the author to use photos under free license, you have to send the permission to the OTRS team. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:22, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete I dont know who this person is so I read the article over and over. Mr Nshala is a vice pressident of a bank. He is a president of a rotary chapter in his town and he is a public accountant. He is also a politician in his region. Still my question is is he notable and for what? Ok he might be notable amongs Rotary members or voters in his region but is that enough? If the writer of the article could write down what makes him notable in the article itself with some reffs than I will change my vote but as it is I must question notability issue. I might sound harsh and I dont mean it. I apologyze. I am only trying to make a point.Stepojevac (talk) 15:35, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - can't possibly see what the subject is notable for. He has a couple of locally high-profile roles in different companies and community groups but nothing that rises to the level of national significance, thus the lack of anything other than local newspaper coverage. That's not enough for a pass against WP:GNG in my view. Stalwart111 07:11, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete His only possibly defining characteristic is being vice president of a bank. However, bank vice presidents are not notable. If he was president of Bank M, maybe, but not as vice president.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:50, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Was dePRODed in good faith but searches for independent, in-depth 3rd-party sources come up with only routine coverage (e.g. press releases and stock market reports) that do not assert notability per WP:ORG. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:26, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, did a bit of searching including looking in Factiva, but only found very routine coverage (stock prices, etc). Does not meet WP:CORP in my view. Lankiveil (speak to me) 05:58, 19 January 2014 (UTC).[reply]
  • Rename to National Bank and Trust and re-purpose to be about the bank, not the holding company. Have information about the holding company as a small part of a larger article. While smaller banks generally do not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, the historic lineage of this bank (dating to 1850) greatly increases the odds of finding something that rises to the level of significant, non-local coverage. I have seen borderline-significant local/novelty-press coverage in two books, The History of Clinton County, Ohio: Containing a History of the County, Its Townships, Cities, Towns, Etc., General and Local Statistics, Portraits of Early Settlers and Prominent Men, History of the Northwest Territory, History of Ohio, Map of Clinton County, Constitution of the United States, Etc, Volume 1. Heritage Books. 2002. p. 531. and Brown, Albert J. (1915). History of Clinton County, Ohio: Its People, Industries, and Institutions. p. 222.. I have also seen possible evidence that there is still a market for vintage bank notes issued by this bank or its predecessors. If a bank of this bank's size were not historic, I would probably recommend deletion given my inability to find more coverage than I have found. I am okay with a soft-deletion or userfication to allow an editor to take the time to find more suitable references. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:08, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet WP:BAND. Two members of the same band formed this project. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. slakrtalk / 11:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia is not a directory and I don't see a reason to list every issue the magazine has ever put out. Along with this nomination:

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Using the abstract given on "Amazon", it would appear both of the books that you mention are more interested in the covers and not the content of the magazines themselves. I do not see the justification for having a list of issues with contents based on these references (which do not appear to be used in the article in any case). WP:DIRECTORY may not be relevant, but WP:INDISCRIMINATE point 1 would appear to be relevant.
  • Comment Thankyou Gloss for letting me know, had you looked on the talk page of List of Mad issues, you would know what I really think. Unfortunately, if this lot is deleted (and I can see your point and clarityfiends even more succinct point) then List of Mad issues would need to be deleted as well (merging some content into the parent article if you really must). List of Mad issues was nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mad Magazine issues and the result was keep. Personally, I would stuff a nuke under this insanity and get on with something worth doing. Not even Mad magazine is mad enough to list this lot. And if this article piqued someones curiosity then there is no way to obtain the relevant issue. Anyroad, I refrained from nominating it for deletion because it is bad form to repeatedly nominate articles for deletion and that is the only way I refrained from voting delete with a capital D. Per WP:BADIDEA, this is "some new bad idea that had not previously been anticipated". Op47 (talk) 16:13, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On second thoughts, Delete Op47 (talk) 19:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep all See no reason to delete. Calling it indiscriminate is a value judgement, a personal bias, not an objective fact. Calling it a Directory is also not supported, there is nothing there that defines it as a Directory. It's a List article, any list article could be accused of being a directory. It would help to have an introductory lead paragraph. -- GreenC 04:23, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • What, me worry? Mad is a significant part of American pop culture. Of course we should keep this. Some day, I expect them to do, "Wikipedia Articles We'd Like to See". If you're all bent out of shape over this, please go grab the nearest copy and get an attitude adjustment. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:20, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I do not doubt that Mad is a significant part of American pop culture, and that is why we should have an article on Mad. I would like to grab a copy, especially of the issues in this article, but I cannot. This article is just making me aware of something I can't have and that is what is adjusting my attitude to delete this lot. Op47 (talk) 19:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify my position, I think that the material in these articles should be kept. I have no particular opinion on where it lives. Keeping one article per decade is fine. Merging them all into one big List of MAD issues is OK too, as is merging it all into Mad (magazine). Looking forward to Deletionist Spy vs. Inclusionist Spy -- RoySmith (talk) 00:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The analogy is with our many series of articles on TV show episodes. The cultural importance is at least as great as almost any of them. and that's the reason we give for keeping the episode articles , and it applies here also. Indeed, to make it similar, we'd have individual articles on each issue. Op47's argument that "it just makes me aware of something I cannot have" is an unusual for of ILIKEIT/IDONTLIKEIT--on that argument, we should delete the articles about any number of wonderful historical things--or for that matter, on luxury goods. DGG ( talk ) 06:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Largely in agreement with DGG's analogy. Now, I am not particularly a fan of large piles of Wikipedia content that aren't backed by secondary sources but instead rely on Wikipedia's enumeration of primary sources, but usually that concern arises from concerns about simply eroding notability and, as a result, neutrality about what to include or not. In this case, however, I think it's both obvious that the topic is notable (a lousy argument, I admit) and that there's other evidence for that notability (in particular, Andrew Davidson's sources). --j⚛e deckertalk 14:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge them all into List of MAD issues. There's no apparent reason for splitting them up by decade, it makes navigation and text-searching unnecessarily cumbersome, and the articles are all small enough that they can be combined into one without it being overlong.--NukeofEarl (talk) 16:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty sure it would be too long. There is server overhead in displaying tables and combining all into a single page (even with multiple tables) would be considerable horsepower. One could test it with a sandbox page and see how long Preview and Saves take. -- GreenC 16:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 08:44, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable personality fails WP:N; subject requires significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Sources provided in article do not meet WP:GNG, and others aren't present in Google News. -- Wikipedical (talk) 03:45, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica1000 08:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fail WP:CORP, no independent secondary sources provided. JMHamo (talk) 01:23, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I am not even going to go into notability here sence there clearly is one and a big one. You cant go into any shop in Sweden and not see Salming products especially underwear. Still this article is not a good one to be nice. I am suprized the writer didnt write a bigger one or added more sources and reffs. There are tons of them on the net. The article itself is a keep becouse of its notability BUT needs to be seriously rewroten. As it is now its bad.Stepojevac (talk) 15:25, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 19:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Promotional autobiograph with very borderline notability at best.. Contributor has resisted an effort to even tag it with a pressrelease tag, so I'm bringing it here as unfixable, which I probably should have done in the first place. It's a particularly bad representative of what has come here from AfC

"represented the coworking community as a spokesperson through major media channels and government summits" in the lede is pretty diagnostic. The entire sections 2, 3 and 5 are minor material that nobody would rationally care about but herself , her friends...and, mostly, her commercial associates. (note the photo of her undistinguished workspace in section 3.) Section 4 is out and out advertising for her projects. I note the sentence "Link Coworking is open from 9am until 6pm Monday through Friday",

I see nothing that resembles a usable reference. I see local business papers, which have a reputation for printing press releases they get from local businesses; I see some specialized trade newsletters, which do the same; and I see a few undisguised press releases from PRweb.

Some recent edits in the subject's own name have added a few more conferences. Even if the subject did not interfere, I would not try to fix this, because there's not enough notable substance. DGG ( talk ) 01:06, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the information. I'll remove section 4. I would argue that Coworking is a rapidly emerging industry with 200% year over year for the past 8 years and is newsworthy. I would argue that Creative Morning, NY Times, SXSW, Forbes, Business Insiderand more. Are all press releases deemed bad? Thanks, for your help, just trying to understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizelam (talkcontribs) 17:37, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as failing to cross the notability threshold. While there is possibly sufficient coverage of the company to warrant a small article, the mentions of the subject herself are either glancing or in non-independent sources. (Press releases can sometimes be used for verifiability but they cannot prove notability.) If it's kept, the article needs a major re-write, but that's a matter for cleanup, not AfD. - Dravecky (talk) 18:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete on the grounds that the only sources which could conceivably be used to establish notability seem to establish more notability for the company than the person. Some small amount of the information here could be merged with an article about the company, if created. --Ahecht (TALK
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The result was delete.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I am interpreting WP:MUSICBIO 8, "Has won or been nominated for a major music award" as not including a nomination for the 39th Gospel Music Association Dove award for "Spanish Language Album of the Year". The awards are not major while the category is a not one of the premier awards. However, if I'm interpreting that incorrectly, feel free to vote keep. However, if I am correct, the subject fails MUSICBIO. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Afghanistan–Turkey relations. Tone 16:41, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:ORG. embassies are not inherently notable. this article is unreferenced and contains no claim for notability. LibStar (talk) 01:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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That's a good solution. Stalwart111 04:06, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Most contributors think that there isn't much worth merging.  Sandstein  08:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Zionist proposals for alternative Jewish homelands (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Hopeless POV fork of Proposals for a Jewish state loaded with WP:NOR and potential BLP violations. Delete Secret account 00:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - serves no purpose other than as a POV essay. As above, there are better articles that cover these issues in more (and more accurate) detail without relying on POV nonsense. Stalwart111 02:11, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm all for merging content if there is anything useful there but is it really worth keeping that POV title? Where's the value in that? Is anyone like to search for a title like that? Stalwart111 11:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Stalwart111: The title would just become a mere WP:REDIRECT to Proposals for a Jewish state. Strange as it may seem there are definitely some "schools of thought" that refer to the topic in those kinds of ways, and that do not see the use of the words "Anti-Zionist proposals" or "alternative Jewish homelands" as "POV", but on the contrary as being NPOV accurate. The phrase "anti-Zionist/s" is not POV, there are articles on WP based on it, see Anti-Zionism, Timeline of anti-Zionism, and there are many anti-Zionists, both Jewish and non-Jewish, and the broad Category:Anti-Zionism, so this topic is not way out at all. The topic should not be done away with, maybe someone will actually write a decent article about it one day, it could be done. IZAK (talk) 09:27, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, IZAK, for responding so comprehensively. I suppose I've always seen the phrase as somewhat POV and in combination with the subject matter it seemed disjointed and only for the purposes of suggesting something before even starting the article. Redirects are cheap and if others think it's of some value, I won't stand in the way of that. Your explanation of why some people might search for something like that makes sense. It seems slightly odd to me, but a great many things do. Happy to support a redirect on that basis. Stalwart111 10:37, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, IZAK (talk) 03:01, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. slakrtalk / 04:30, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Insufficient notability for this project, fails WP:ARTIST. The award of officer of the order of the crown is one that appears to be routinely given to professional staff in government departments - a doctor, a translator. A 27-page booklet apparently about him was published in an edition of 400 copies in 1952. Apart from those, I've not been able to find anything resembling a reliable source that even mentions him, let alone confirms his notability. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:27, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. Although the Order of the Crown is awarded to military officers and civil servants automatically for length of service, awards to non-government-servants are discretionary. In this latter respect, Officer of the Order of the Crown seems to be pretty much equivalent to an OBE in the British Honours System. While an OBE would not qualify a recipient for automatic inclusion (that would require a CBE, the next grade up), it would be very likely that a British artist who had received an OBE would have an article on Wikipedia. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:54, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR.) (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000(talk) 05:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable album track, fails WP:SONG TheLongTone (talk) 17:40, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following for deletion, for the same reason.
The Loner (Maurice Gibb song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Farmer Ferdinand Hudson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Mother and Jack (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Please Read Me (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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