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Thank you for the invitation. I will definitely check it out. Just a comment/quick post related to some of the other posts I see above.
I felt a bit frustrated as well at first. I contributed, after signing up, wanting to share something I thought interesting, related to a topic/person. The bit that frustrated me most is that the other Users were so quick to revert. The first revert, I totally understood, and knew why... copy paste Copyright. A NO NO!
The Second, I believe was due to an external link where I didn't post the ref at the bottom. I edited my first post, which was now in my words now with refs (just missing the one for that external link). Right after I saved it, I edited to add the ref, but it was already reverted.
However, the user was very cool. I posted on his talk page and asked what was wrong now, and also what was the correct way to ask someone who reverted. He wrote back, that he saw the added ref, reversed his revert, and explained that the Talk link is the correct communication method for that.
Another, one that bothered me a bit, mostly because I just dealt with those 2, was that I viewed a wiki page from a wiki link within my post. I saw the other page didn't link the persons name to the person that the article was about's wiki page... so all I did was add [[]] around the name on that page, to link to the person's wiki page... Someone reverted it??? WHY??? WHO KNOWS? I DON'T CARE... unless there is a valid rule for it.
My point being, I can identify with the frustrations of some of the negative comments on here... however Copyright, first of all, and going by the rules is crucial.
Here is a good place to start for any question/problem... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_help_forums. People who know that info in and out, are going to make sure we abide by them. So, don't give up. I didn't and my main contribution is there, up and staying. It just took a little frustration and most importantly education by a couple of members to get there. Now I know, be thorough, use your own words, add a ref for every outside statement, link, picture, piece of info you used... and make sure you have a reference for your info. DON'T GIVE UP! THIS IS A RECORD OF HISTORY & A FREE EDUCATION TO THE WORLD!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudosurootdev (talk • contribs) 16:59, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
invitation from user on wikibreak
Hostbot sent me an invitation to Tea house from Nathan2055, but Nathan2055 is no longer active on Wikipedia
Naytz (talk) 03:35, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you for being so hospital
I created the page ChnLove and I am new to wikipedia. Hope you can give some advice about the improvement on the page. Thanks! Cracy111 (talk) 06:48, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I am new to wikipedia and read about its rules. Please help me with it because this content has relation with the topic which is covered wikipedia.
I hope you help me.
sanjit khulal magar 02:25, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Special Barnstar
For creating a bot inviting me to the Teahouse 9 months ago! I was about to leave after 5 minutes of joining when Hostbot invited me to the Teahouse! But most of all, having a cool userpage. I clicked on (talk) which lead me to your talk page, then I pressed the user page tab and saw the most amazing thing ever... a userbox! Anyways, long story short, without the bot inviting me, I wouldn't be typing this right now. Cheers, ΤheQ Editor Talk?22:12, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
FYI, a page you edited, Baye McNeil, has been proposed for deletion by user Nagoyabllue, and I thought you might want to participate in the debate: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baye McNeil. I created the Baye McNeil page, going through Wikipedia articles for creation to do so - whereupon it was approved for publication by an editor. All of the references (including the cover blurbs) were looked at and considered notable enough for the article…I look forward to your thoughts on the proposed deletion…Hoping you're well...Thank you!...Minusminority (talk) 21:01, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Deidra has eaten your porridge! The porridge made her feel happy and they'd like to give you a thanks for giving it to her. Spread the WikiLove by giving out more signs of appreciation to new comers of Wikipedia, whether it is someone you would like to meet, someone you've disagreed with, someone you've quarrled with, or a friend of yours.
Hi jtmorgan
no thx I just got here and I am inexperienced.
Thank you for the invitation.
I am trying to edit the company page where I work, and I know that it currently reads like an advertisment. I would like to build upon what is already there, but I also need to see what is on the page before I modify or delete it. Would you suggest starting over, or editing the existing page? Thank you for your assistance, Siddeeqah2014
Thank you for being so welcoming
Dear Hostbot I definitely need your help. I am trying to edit a page Amanda Eliasch and there are some people who are very negative and it is about to be deleted when it is properly researched with articles from the Times, The Mail, Huffington Post etc. Good articles. I am trying to make it less flashy and so it falls into the limits that Wikipedia enjoys. If you can help me with hiding URLS, I would love it. I am very good once shown but not so great following instructions. I will do my best. Thank you for any ideas and your assistance. Thank you also for the welcome to The teahouse. AERATBAG
Thanks for the invitation. Your Teahouse has already been helpful!
Teahoust Host Landing...
Hey J-Mo, what would it take to get HostBot moving people back and forth from the host landing to the break room again? I ask because I was just there to revert an edit of 12K worth of text characters for an image and noticed there are currently at 202 hosts on that page. This concerns me, because it won't be long before the page stops rendering and I'm honestly kind of surprised the page hasn't hit the transclusion size limit yet (it's at about 23.8% of the limit currently). Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c)03:33, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi T13. I was never able to make the host moving workflow work properly. There was an intermittent bug that resulted in some (many?) profiles being deleted completely, to everyone's great consternation. Never did completely nail it down. So best to manually archive inactive profiles every once in a while, as long as we aren't overzealous about it. If it would help, I can dump you a list of all hosts with profiles, and their most recent TH edit date. Cheers, - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me01:34, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't even have that code in the repo anymore--I was real frustrated at it. But basically to replicate that script in a way that (probably) fixes the problem, you would follow these basic steps (all via the API):
pull the list of usernames for hosts who have profiles. You can use the section headers to get this info.
check the recent contribs of those hosts, one by one, to see how many edits they have to Teahouse pages
remove the profiles for hosts that don't have any recent Teahouse edits (I used to use a ~1 month threshold) from the page
post those profiles onto the host breakroom.
to move profiles of recently active hosts back, reverse these steps (more or less)
Using a framework like MWClient or Wikitools will make save you time interacting with the API and reduce the amount of code you have to write. Let me know if you have questions! Cheers, - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me00:24, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Posted invite from "Teahouse host" who hasn't edited in two months?
See here [1] for the notice from Nathan2055, who hasn't edited since October 15th. How does this work? Did he kick off the bot invitation without actually editing, or is the bot issuing invitations in the name of inactive editors? Nathan T 03:35, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Good point, Nathan. The bot pulls from a list of about a dozen editors who, long ago, agreed to have their names attached to Teahouse invites. But I haven't updated the list in a while, except when people explicitly asked to be added or removed. So I'll check in the with current set, and also ask on the Teahouse talk page to see if any new folks want to be added. And I'll just remove Nathan2055 for now, and drop a note on his talk page for due diligence. Cheers, - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me01:31, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
You can leave me on the list. I check the Teahouse often but someone else usually answers questions faster than I do. I was active earlier today and don't really mind the occasional annoying POV-pusher who wants me to support them. Take care and have a great 2015, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) WER00:26, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
RE: Name on HostBot
Hi,
I've recently been inactive but I plan to come back and be active as of now, so I would like my name to still be on the List, if that's at all possible.
After receiving an invite from HostBot, I got interested in how HostBot had chosen user I JethroBT from all TeaHouse hosts
(and finding answer here), I got really interested in HostBot, and read through stack trace of sending an invite. During that I noticed, that HostBot chooses text of the invite randomly from two different strings. Those two texts convey kinda different messages to the receiver of invite. Wouldn't it be better to merge them, so that the receiver can get a better picture about TeaHouse when reading the invite? --andrybak (talk) 19:05, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Andrybak, yep for a while this year I was helping some researchers run a mini-experiment to see if serving up peer support appeals vs. expert support appeals led to different outcomes. But that research project kind of disintegrated, and I hadn't bothered to update the code. I've done so now: the bot will be back to a single generic message that mentions both veterans and newcomers tomorrow. Good eyes :) Also, welcome (back?) to enwiki! Cheers, - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me01:44, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
I can't for the life of me post anything at the Teahouse. It doesn't work in either Firefox or Konqueror (Ubuntu). Half the message box disappears into the left side of the screen, both browsers slow down to a crawl and clicking the "ask my question" button doesn't seem to yield any results (Although I am uncertain as to what kind of results I should be expecting so I might have spammed the page by now. Sorry.)
Is it a known issue? Mind if I ask my question here?
Hi Kingrevenant. Sorry to hear the Q&A page isn't working for you. I've asked some other Teahouse volunteers to test it as well (it worked fine for me on Firefox for Mac). You're welcome to post your question here, or on the Teahouse talk page, where you are likely to get a faster and better response. Welcome to Wikipedia! Cheers, - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me17:20, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Guidance barnstar
Guidance barnstar
Thanks for volunteering with today's edit-a-thon on top of your WMF work, and thanks for your work on the Teahouse. --Pine✉05:33, 15 February 2015 (UTC)]]
HI! sent u an email
Hello JtMorgan!
I sent u an email, explaining about the Redfin article, and why I had included certain points. I apologize If i made any mistakes, and sorry about the inconvenience. Thank you!
- supereditor92, 2/15/2015.
Hi, sorry to bother you again, but I sent u an email about a rough copy of my edited work. I wanted to run it by you first, before editing it directly. Thanks for your feedback, and based on your feedback, I did not include any redfin.com sources, only included verifiable information, did not add anything to the business model, and added a section about the company's history/founders. If you feel it's good to go, I could edit it directly. Thanks!
-supereditor92, 2/16/2015.
Hi again Supereditor92. The stuff you sent me via email looks good to me—tho IMO there's still too much detail in the lede about Redfin's business model. I suggest you make the changes to the article, and we'll see what happens. I may come through and make a few updates here and there, but I'll stop deleting big chunks of content. If someone else comes by and makes big changes, we'll take that as it comes. Happy editing! - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me18:12, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Oh, btw: you 'sign' your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes, like this (~~~~), at the end of your message. That automatically adds your username and the date/time, so you don't have to do it manually. Cheers, - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me18:14, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi Friend am trying to make Noah Akanakimana football profile here in Burundi, thank you for your edits and concerns to help me out on this subject, i appreciate, am trying to collate concrete information about this subject. These are young Excellent players here but they lack that bit of follow up to enhence on their profile. please bear with me and make suggestions how to help me to clean the page. importantly how can i also join a discussion. thank you. Akanakimana (talk) 19:14, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Your request has been for the Teahouse has been declined.
I thought about it but i can't make it. I'll try tomorrow! If you want to contact me, goto my talk page and clicked the New section tab and add a comment Συντάκτης (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)User talk:Συντάκτης
I hope to see you there! Jtmorgan (I'm a Teahouse host)
I wonder if the criteria for HostBot inviting a user to the Teahouse might be tweaked a little. I ask because I see invitations that seem incongruous. A new vandal's talk page often attracts a series of warning notices in a short period of time, and smiling along with them is an invitation to the Teahouse.
I'm not against welcoming reformed vandals to the Teahouse, or reaching out to the troubled with honey rather than vinegar, but during a contemporaneous campaign of vandalism, I think the invitation undermines the organic response from the community, and exposes the artificial response as risibly tone deaf and inappropriate.
I don't mean 'artificial' to be pejorative. I'd use it to refer to any artifice of human manufacture from the flint-shaped stone to robotic explorers of the solar system. They all need tweaking.
So, perhaps HostBot could check the talk page for indications of the user's reception by the Wikipedia community at the time an invitation is considered.
Hi Willondon. The bot actually does check talk pages before posting. See this function, which tells the bot to look for any of these strings, and not post if it finds any of them. It's a low-tech solution, I admit, and not always effective. But there probably won't ever be a true fix for this problem that will satisfy most vandal fighters because a) my general philosophy is always going to be to give people the benefit of the doubt; b) there's no hard and fast threshold for invitation, short of blocked/banned users, and I already exclude those as best I can. It's easy to code individual exclusion criteria, like having gotten a single level 4 warning, it's much harder to decide how many low level revert and deletion notices is "too many". And also more subjective. That said... if you can give me examples of incongruous invites, I'm happy to consider adding more criteria to the "skip" list to reduce false positives.
Thanks for the gratifying response paying attention to this issue. I'll refrain from criticizing further until I can offer some concrete solutions, as you have. The tweaking is in the devils, or something like that. Willondon (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi User:Koopa24, welcome to the wiki! HostBot hasn't traditionally been a super collaborative endeavor, but it could be in the future. Tell you what: ping me in 6 months or so once you've got your Wikipedia legs under you and we can talk about sharing bot wrangling duties. Cheers, - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me 22:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC) Ok, thanks! Koopa24 (talk) 18:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC) Email Me11:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add one of the standard welcome messages such as Template:WelcomeMenu to the teahouse invitation when it's creating a user's talk page. I've just come across an editor whose edits and new articles show promise but also a total lack of awareness of WP:V and WP:COI.
In this case it looks as though User:XLinkBot would have added a welcome if it had been first to the talk page but didn't because User:HostBot was there first, resulting in no welcome message at all - not what anybody was aiming for I'm sure, and not in tune with the spirit of teahouse. Regards, Bazj (talk) 12:27, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Bazj. The Teahouse invite is intended to serve as a welcome :) There are plenty of places on wiki where new users can find links to Important Things To Read. I don't believe that most newcomers ever read those documents when they're presented in a giant wall of text, as is the case in most of our welcome templates (design by committee FTW!!!). I certainly didn't, when I joined. I prefer to keep the Teahouse invitation simple, and to let people ask the questions they need answers to at the Teahouse itself, which is a pretty welcoming place. Cheers, - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me23:52, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
What you intend to be a warm invitation to the teahouse, when I was new I'd have taken as a requirement that I go to a webpage, publicly articulate my ignorance and wait patiently for someone to grant me a response. That would have been my last day on any wiki.
The newcomers may not read all the links in the welcome template. Like you I don't believe that they would. But I do believe that when they encounter an issue they'd be grateful for a guide into the myriad of wiki policies, a guide they could refer to instantly rather than waiting on the teahouse.
I'm not requesting an either/or solution. I'm not requesting that the teahouse invitation be altered. I'd just like you to cater to a range of newcomers, those who want community and teahouse, and those who want to edit without fuss and don't mind RTFM. Is it not possible to leave a welcome template AND a teahouse invitation? Bazj (talk) 18:01, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I think I understand that perspective. I would have no problem with User:XLinkBot adding the main welcome template after HostBot drops by, but I don't want my bot to be in charge of adding the main welcome template. - J-MoTalk to MeEmail Me18:54, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi JTmorgan,
Since I couldn't find the relevant place where to start the new topic I am using this welcome, since I feel that I (novice) have been welcomed among you Wikipedians. I wish to thank you for fast match with my mentor Doctree! Looking fw to work with you fellas!
Sincerely Uzi Oz-Pharaoh עוזי אוז UziOz (talk) 00:44, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
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But unfortunately, I don't need a Mentor for now and I don't have any experience on Webpage or the way to improve Wikipedia so I'll be okay on my own for now so I must decline for now :(
Hi. I created a bot account and Hostbot welcomed it.[2] I'm not sure why - the user on whose behalf the message was ostensibly left - Ocaasi (talk·contribs) - doesn't seem to have any relevant edits. --B (talk) 22:43, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Hey This Mr. Waters Call you could check out THE MOUSE WITH THE QUESTION MARK TAIL Can you tell them to put Characters and Plot can you tell them to do that for me plases?
And Check out Secrets at Sea Can you tell them to put Characters and Plot can you tell them to do that for me plases?
Tell Them to put them of each Characters and Plots. But thank you very mush you do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90731fly (talk • contribs) 04:43, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Could you Tell all your friends at Wikipedia to Contact
Hey This Mr. Waters Call you could check out THE MOUSE WITH THE QUESTION MARK TAIL Can you tell them of Wikipedia to put Characters and Plot can you tell them to do that for me plases?
And Check out Secrets at Sea Can you tell them to put Characters and Plot can you tell them to do that for me plases? Tell Them tell them of Wikipedia to put them of each Characters and Plots. But thank you very mush you do that.
But Thank you Very /much for Sending me the Messages Over in Out.––90731fly (talk) 05:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Could you Contact your friends on Wikipedia
Hey This Mr. Waters Call you could check on The Mouse with the Question Mark Tail Can you tell them of Wikipedia to I need a Characters of The Mouse with the Question Mark Tail. I did the Plots you tell them to do that for me pleases?
And Check on Secrets at Sea Can you tell them to I need a Characters of Secrets at Sea. I did the Plots you tell them to do that for me pleases? Tell Them tell them of Wikipedia to put them of each Characters and Plots. But thank you very much you do that.
Sending me the Messages we you check I need Characters bye Over in Out.(talk) 17:33, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, J-Mo. I noticed a Teahouse invite with User:Technical_13's signature in it when I visited a newcomers talk page. T13 was blocked/banned by ArbCom action yesterday after self-requesting his account be blocked. I removed T13's Teahouse host profile but I want to be sure that his missing profile won't hang up Hostbot. If the invites aren't tied to host profiles, please remove T13 from the list of users whose names appear in the Teahouse invites. Thanks, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) WER01:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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Wanted to include my thanks for the message and extended invitation, Mr. Morgan. I am looking forward to the Wiki Adventure experience and becoming a better Wikipedia editor. AMERIXANPSYCHO(talk) 05:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
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