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The result was merge to List of things named after Donald Trump. With some caveats: There's not consensus to just dump stuff from one list into the other, or to redirect, but rather consensus is to create one list of all things Trump (with a name still to be worked out) such that it is clear what belongs to Trump or his organization, and what is just named after him. That's because it's clear from most "keep" opinions that many editors consider this a relevant distinction that should not be omitted.  Sandstein  08:15, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Useless list; all contents and more is already on List of things named after Donald Trump. — JFG talk 23:10, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge to Trump Organization, really duplicate information. That article could use a dose of neutrality, for instance on the Trump Winery, it says: "Although the vineyard is 1,300 acres, only 200 are under cultivation ("Acres under vine")." Wow. I'm sure if people knew that 1,100 acres of potential wine cultivation was sitting idle they wouldn't have voted for him. Thoughtmonkey (talk) 11:52, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep/Merge as above but into a consolidated list article as List of things named after Donald Trump, which can be broken up into assets specifically owned by Trump Org. versus those in which he has shares versus those to which he licenses his name or brand(s). This listing page should also now be expanded to include organizations owned separately by any of his children to whom he is now entrusting his company and family whom he is putting in positions of political power. Again, the scope of such a list is now beyond that of documenting the Trump Organization – it is to carefully have all of the President-Elect's known financial and nominal interests listed. SamuelRiv (talk) 05:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A noble endeavour, but is this the job of Wikipedia? Regardless, we don't need this list in three different places (Trump Org, Things named after Trump and this page). — JFG talk 07:37, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 08:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. I could not find any reliable sources offering significant coverage of this person. Odie5533 (talk) 22:38, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 08:12, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

HERE IS A RELIABLE SOURCE; https://pig-records.rocks/crunchbird

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No reliable sources in article. Improvement tags on article have been removed repeatedly by author without fixing the issues. Every single reference is to a self-published source: a wiki, facebook, youtube, blogspot etc. and 4 or 5 references just point to a photograph. Consequently I have been unable to verify a single fact within this Biography of a Living Person and it should be removed. Exemplo347 (talk) 22:14, 4 December 2016 (UTC):[reply]

You are wrong about that statement. Allmusic is not a self generated website or Wiki. Vagrant records Seattle is a standalone record label and has beenin existenxe for 25 plus years in the pacifc Northwest. That "just a photograph" you refer to is part of the University of Washington logo history website which is owned and operated by the University of Washington. Please explain to us how the University of Washington archives is not a legitimate source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.97.141.50 (talk) 18:39, 19 December 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

those statements are not true — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.122.136.26 (talk) 22:43, 4 December 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

Would you care to elaborate? Please provide a point-by-point breakdown of the individual statements you do not believe are true, so I can respond correctly. Exemplo347 (talk) 22:48, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. I recommend reading Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources and Wikipedia:Articles for Creation before writing any more about this. czar 08:38, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This is simply a PR advertising business listing, regardless of anything because both WP:NIT is being violated as it's clearly only a business listing, two, none of thid establishes any genuine independent notability and substance; with this said, the links are literally as trivial and unconvincing as it gets because they are not actual significant coverage news, let alone notability. SwisterTwister talk 22:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WhiskeyZuluXray (talk) 03:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC) I'm not sure how this is any different than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkane_Studios, but as this is my first article maybe I'm missing something.[reply]

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WhiskeyZuluXray (talk) 19:24, 5 December 2016 (UTC) Agreed, I added a relevant narrative section and updated the references since their own website doesn't point to the correct citations.[reply]

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WhiskeyZuluXray (talk) 16:11, 12 December 2016 (UTC) As per my previous comment, this page contains more info now than this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkane_Studios. How does this page page warrant deletion and that one doesn't? Other examples of similar pages are: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Studios - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artdink - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behaviour_Interactive - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bits_Studios - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coded_Illusions - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crafts_%26_Meister[reply]

...to list just a handful.

The 1 external link in the body has been replaced with a reference.

WhiskeyZuluXray (talk) 16:16, 12 December 2016 (UTC) But honestly, with the host of issues the page has had. Go ahead and delete it and I'll start over.[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:56, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Cannot find any secondary sources and the only reference is a dead link. Does not meet notability requirement for games or sports. Rogermx (talk) 03:56, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. King of 03:11, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Single tertiary and weak secondary sourcing. Does not meet WP:BIO WP:BASIC or WP:ANYBIO in my opinion. Unable to locate additional sourcing beyond some indications of 2 co-authored professional journal articles that are paywalled. Please note that I had previously used WP:PROD for this article. TheCrazedBeast (talk) 15:04, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to see somebody else's opinion on this, just to make sure that he is not notable enough to be deleted. If you can provide this, then I think that it should be deleted. Basically, I want a second opinion on this. RileyBugz (talk) 15:29, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed RileyBugz, and I also want to let you know that I am newly venturing into editing articles beyond content and into the realm of more administrative function. I have done a lot of looking at prior AfD discussions and formed my opinion based on that research. I'm looking forward to other input here very much. TheCrazedBeast (talk) 17:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment. This is a tought one. The entry is poorly done, no doubts. Still, Nigel Cleere seems a well-establised researcher and author on his particular area of expertise. See here,here, here, here. As the first link shows, his books and other publications, individual and in collabortion, have been well-reviewed, and are popular among general readership (here). But I can't find anything else. No CV, no award, no nomination. We might be missing something here. While science researchers could flourish outside of a university context, as he is attached to a research organization (British Ornithologists' Club), an individual like him must have won awards. But again, researchers unafiliated to universities are often at a disadvantage in regards to being exposed to the media. Those experienced with notability among scholars could certainly help here. Caballero/Historiador 06:06, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keeep the article is inadequate. First,the book mentioned is a standard work, reprinted by Yale University Press as well as some specialized publishers. He is also one oworldCat records such as [1] have been accepted as the needed secondary sources. DGG ( talk ) 01:02, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:01, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Very poorly sourced, only 2 of the 9 sources/external links are reliable-ish; the rest are Facebook, Twitter, and iTunes links. I can't find any available online sources, but maybe someone who speaks Turkish can. Anarchyte (work | talk) 01:02, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - people need to read a few manual of styles tbh.--Jennica / talk 18:58, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - needs TNT. Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:41, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of Autobots. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 14:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Minor element in the Transformers universe. No evidence of real-world notability. Prod disputed. Josh Milburn (talk) 14:23, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete- Another bad plot-heavy article about a minor, non-notable fictional character. All the available sources are to the work of fiction itself, or fan websites. There is no content that could plausibly be merged, and making a redirect to some list or other after deletion is up to editor discretion. Reyk YO! 09:16, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 00:57, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A BLP lacking in reliable secondary sources that that discuss the subject directly and in detail. Article sourced to non-independent industry materials or tabloids. Recently added Polska Times content appears to be citing to tabloid-like content as well. The best I could find was TMZ and Wikipedia does not generally cite to tabloids. Does not meet WP:PORNBIO as only two nominations are listed.

The notability tag has been contested and it may be best to resolve the issue via AfD. The first AfD in 2015 closed as no consensus, so this would be a good time to revisit. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:02, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Should not be considered as a 'porn-only' notoriety in my humble opinion. Decent international notoriety as porn actress albeit without awards won; notable for having been a Penthouse Pet in diptych with her sister as well as for her being a Polish celebrity. Creating a page or redirect for her sister could therefore be useful. Nota: the 'listed nominations' mentioned above were oddly removed from the page before the debate was launched (see the article talk page).--DPD (t) 01:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep (Weak). Weak because of the dearth of independent sources. But she has twice been nominated for the "Best New Starlet," a criteria for notability (WP:ANYBIO). Less important, IMDb has a page on her. Caballero/Historiador 05:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Caballero1967: Two XBIZ nominations is nowhere near meeting WP:PORNBIO. Award nominations have been dropped from this SNG a long time ago. Besides, XBIZ is not the Nobel Prize :-). K.e.coffman (talk) 22:25, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@K.e.coffman: Could you explain the SNG drop and why you think the award is not worth considering? We should discard all awards if the standard is the Nobel Prize. I am all ears. :) Caballero/Historiador 22:58, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest reviewing Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)/Archive_2014#RfC:_As_regards_WP:PORNBIO.2C_should_the_criteria_for_awards_nominations_be_removed_from_the_guideline.3F and the discussion immediately beneath that RFC. One important reason was the increasingly outlandish proliferation of award categories and nominations within most categories. One incarnation of AVN's fan awards had categories with up to 100 nominees, and most categories from the more prominent awardgivers have more than a dozen nominees. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006. (talk) 00:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete. Uh, Polish celebrity - hardly. In addition to the English language article in a minor Polish-American newspaper, I checked Polish language coverage. All I see is an article in regional (provincial) newspaper (Kurier Lubelski (pl:Kurier Lubelski) [2]), a single paragraph at a news section of a bigger portal onet.pl, and a bunch of articles in tabloid Super Express. Borderline at best, and frankly, given that majority of coverage comes from tabloids, trade journals and a single local newspaper, well, I think we usually lean towards delete with no other arguments, and as the remaining question should be whether she fails PORNBIO - and nobody disputed the nominator's claim she is not.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No genuine international notoriety or celebrity. Such claims are based on unreliable tabloidery, including one source whose extensively referenced native-language Wikipedia article [3] points out its reputation for "misconduct and disregard for the rules of journalistic ethics" and "the administration of untruth and creat[ion of] fictional material". What's happened here is fairly straightforward: a flurry of posts on social media claimed (without any credible evidence) that the winner of a quite minor beauty pageant ("Miss Polonia Manhattan") had become a porn performer. ([4] seems to be the starting point, apparently based only on visual resemblances in a few photos. Sources which base their reporting on social media aren't reliable, and can't support a BLP. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006. (talk) 13:13, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete non-notable pornographic performer. Our guidelines clearly say we should not create articles built on tabloid coverage, which this article would be.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:51, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete we rightly expect better coverage from blps. Spartaz Humbug! 22:02, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I wouldn't rely on an outside wiki article to determine reputation as there is potential for coatracking, and I can't track the underlying sourcing (if there is any and whether it's from competition or an actual academic journal). Even the best of newspapers, most notably the New York Times, have had journalistic failings. I see these populist foreign papers that are in tabloid formats to be the equivalent of something like the New York Post which has never been outright rejected as a source for wikipedia. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:23, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Grong Sparebank. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 14:48, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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No sources found for this defunct bank to pass WP:COMPANY. The article has also been unsourced for 10 years. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 00:20, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:01, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Poorly sourced and I'm failing to find reliable online sources. Anarchyte (work | talk) 00:54, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. joe deckertalk 21:06, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable individual lacking non-trivial support. reddogsix (talk) 00:46, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete and Salt given the 3 deletions now and it's clear in the sheer blatancy of it existing again within 4 months again; if this should ever come in mainspace again, it will be at AfC, not by a starting user themselves. WP:NOT applies because it's clear this is not going to be anything else but advertising. SwisterTwister talk 02:13, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article Dr Asif Shahid should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (Dr Asif Shahid is a notable journalist from Pakistan)[1][2][3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

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  1. ^ Dr Asif Shahid (15 April 2009). "Taliban, ISI and future of Pakistan (in Urdu:طالبان، آئی ایس آئی اور پاکستان کا مستقبل)". sachiidosti.com. Retrieved 12 December 2016.
  2. ^ "Pakistani Newspapers". Online Newspapers. onlinenewspapers.com. Retrieved 12 December 2016.
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I've taken the liberty of removing the link to "revolvy.com" in your list above. That site is a mirror of wikipedia; he is included in that folder based on his inclusion in the category here. This undermines your position that he is independently notable, so I presume you don't mind the removal. Kuru (talk) 16:18, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:01, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Can find only one source on ITunes, and it does not list any hits, top concerts, etc. Does not meet notability requirement for Media and Music. Rogermx (talk) 00:33, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 08:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:ANYBIO. Ambassadors are not inherently notable. All the references are deadlinks- there is no evidence to support notability. Dan arndt (talk) 00:16, 12 December 2016 (UTC) Dan arndt (talk) 00:16, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 00:08, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:BIO. High Commissioners are not inherently notable. Unable to find any indepth coverage about any of her roles.Dan arndt (talk) 00:14, 12 December 2016 (UTC).[reply]

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