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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 15:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Baldwin family

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This doesn't warrant it's own article and it's not encyclopedic Novalia (talk) 23:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose: Keep article, as these :Category:Acting families also have articles: Nominator appears biased and just wants to start shit by disrespecting.

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See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. This discussion is about the Baldwin family, whose suitability for a Wikipedia article (about which I have no opinion) has no relationship to the existence of articles about other families. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:03, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are many reliable sources that give significant coverage to the Baldwin Family, as a group. A quick google search shows this. However, I think the most beefy pieces will be in entertainment magazines from the early 90s and probably not available online. --Darth Mike^(talk) 13:11, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep per WP:GNG, WP:SNOW, and WP:BEFORE. President Clinton said, "They bombed the Baldwins!" I'm sorry, but literally a whole Oscar-nominated feature film was made based on the premise that this family is so famous that everybody would get the joke. Bearian (talk) 01:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep And seconded on the WP:SNOW make it a blizzard, close it out, etc. Sulfurboy (talk) 04:07, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to ABBYY FineReader. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 15:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ABBYY

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Seems to be a none notable software company. All the sources are to either press releases or the companies website. Nothing comes up in a Google search either. Except for trivial coverage that doesn't pass WP:NCORP. Adamant1 (talk) 23:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: non-notable, fails WP:NCORP. - Ahunt (talk) 23:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect To ABBYY FineReader. Plausible search term. May be delete and redirect. Pavlor (talk) 08:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be fine with that. It seems like that article has questionable notability also though. I might do an AfD for it to. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect without deletion to ABBYY FineReader, as some of the information about the company can be reused there. @User:Adamant1: The software itself seems notable based on the citations there, so I would recommend against an AfD for that page. Modernponderer (talk) 17:26, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't going to do an AfD on it. It was just a general comment. I think if this article was redirected there it would boast it some. --Adamant1 (talk) 17:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect for now. Would be willing to take a look at ABBYY FineReader later. Certainly not enough to support two separate articles. Glendoremus (talk) 16:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect seems like the sensible decision for now as suggested above although I'm not overly impressed with the destination either. HighKing⁺⁺ 11:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanathon Chanphet

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I see no indication this player passes WP:NFOOTBALL or WP:GNG. Govvy (talk) 22:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 11:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Agree with nominator, subject fails notability and WP:NFOOTBALL. Alex-h (talk) 18:22, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-notable footballer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. wholly fails WP:NFOOTY and zero evidence of passing WP:GNG Sulfurboy (talk) 04:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Leaning towards keep. People disagree about the quality of the sources, but there's clearly no consensus that they're inadequate. Sandstein 21:37, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Europay International

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"entity" that was merged into MasterCard. The article hasn't had any sources since 2014 and nothing comes up for it in a Google search except for Wikipedia spin off sites and brief mentions in personal blogs. Adamant1 (talk) 22:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A web search is hardly the way to look for independent reliable sources about just about anything, let alone an entity that hasn't existed for nearly 20 years. More focussed searches find sources such as doi:10.1108/09555349910281405, doi:10.1016/S0167-4048(99)80014-4 and very many more. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you found a few sources. Did you find them by going through your local library's catalogue? ;) BTW, I'm not sure how much those sources count toward nobility. They seem questionable to me, but I'll let someone else decide that. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I found them by a simple Google Scholar search, as can be done by simply clicking on the word "scholar" at the top of this discussion. More can be found by a Google Books search. What seems questionable about them? They look like cast-iron reliable sources to me: much better than the random web sites that you seem to be looking for. Phil Bridger (talk) 06:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing is questionable about them. Just that you said doing a web search isn't the way to find reliable sources, but that's exactly how you found them. That said, the second source is trivial coverage. WP:NCORP says product releases don't count for notability. All the other sources on Google Scholar seem to be the same and not specifically about the company. It's not like I didn't look through them to be sure when I did the AfD. Notability isn't inherited. --Adamant1 (talk) 17:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you just read the first couple of paragraphs of the second source you will see that the whole paper is about an initiative of Europay. And as I said, there are many more sources found by these simple searches. Just take a look rather than do web searches as you said you had. These are searches of academic papers and books, not the web. This is a very notable entity that was one of the two biggest credit card operators in Europe for many years. Just recognise that you were wrong rather than dig yourself deeper into a hole. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:52, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as it seems to easily pass GNG and pretty clearly at least fits in the realm of WP:CORPDEPTH with a straightforward google search. Have some time this morning to put those on the page, just filtering out the ones that aren't significant enough to really help with notability. 67.243.20.177 (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I don't appreciate your effort, but all the sources you added are trivial coverage and don't establish notability according to WP:NCORP. Generally speaking, sources about product releases and mergers don't work. --Adamant1 (talk) 18:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete References for the most part are about MasterCard buying Europay and they are simply regurgitation of press releases. Other citations are merely passing mentions, sometimes a single sentence. A lot of quantity but nothing that meets simple requirement of in-depth discussions by reliable, independent sources Glendoremus (talk) 16:28, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The peer-reviewed academic papers that I linked above are in-depth discussions by reliable, independent sources, and many more such sources are available by simply clicking on "books" or "scholar" in the links at the top of this discussion. Please take note of the previous discussion before making such an uninformed comment. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:35, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, just in case anyone is counting votes rather than looking at the quality of arguments. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTVOTE. Narky Blert (talk) 13:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know, but not everyone closes discussions in that way. I have made extensive comments above and below. Phil Bridger (talk) 13:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete None of the sources show WP:SIGCOV required by WP:NCORP. Everything is just WP:ROUTINE merger/reformation announcements and are without depth. Sulfurboy (talk) 04:03, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain how the academic papers that I linked above meet that description. Phil Bridger (talk) 06:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Phil Bridger, Dude you can't be serious. Those aren't "academic papers". The first is some non-notable, not peer reviewed journal, that by their own site description ANYONE can write for. The second was written by an employee of Europay. If you want to reply or contribute to the AfD discussion in a meaningful manner, please don't try to pass off unreliable and primary articles as "academic papers". Sheesh. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:48, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Now you are the one not being serious. Where on Earth do you get the idea that the European Business Review, published by Emerald Publishing, is not peer-reviewed? Yes, anyone can submit a paper, as with any academic journal, but, by their own site description, it will only be published if it passes peer review. Phil Bridger (talk) 06:58, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If that journal was even marginally worth its salt it'd be indexed in JCR or Scopus. It's not. Fail. At least you gave up on trying to push that second "academic paper" that was written by the company. Sulfurboy (talk) 07:29, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is indexed by Scopus, where it is rated 10th out of 81 journals in the category "Business, Management and Accounting (miscellaneous)". First you lied about it not being peer-reviewed and now you are lying about it not being indexed by Scopus. Please stop. And I stand by the "very many more" that I said in my first post to this discussion. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - both sources that Phil Bridger has identified were papers written by Europay employees. The second has already been identified as such, the first was written by “Marc Dutrieux (Senior Manager, Smart Card Development at Europay International.)” Cardiffbear88 (talk) 18:35, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is just getting ridiculous. The subject was one of the two credit card processors that dominated the European market until it merged with Mastercard, rather than representing it as it had done before, in 2002. That fact is sourced in the article. This is one of the most clear-cut notable articles that I have ever seen at AfD. I despair for the future of Wikipedia if people can actually support deletion of this article. OK, I didn't go out of my way to check the credentials of the authors of the articles I linked above, but they were just two of the hundreds of reliable sources that can be found simply by clicking the searches spoon-fed by the nomination process. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

With respect, I disagree. And your belligerent and argumentative attitude to people who have disagreed with you during this debate has been noted. Please WP:AGF in future. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 18:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What do you disagree with? That this was one of the two dominant players in the European credit card market for many years? As I said, that is reliably sourced, so if you disagree then you disagree with the whole basis of Wikipedia. It is very difficult to assume good faith of people who refuse to look at the evidence. And if people utter lies about a journal being peer-reviewed or indexed by Scopus then of course I will call that out. Why should I let lies go unchallenged? Phil Bridger (talk) 18:59, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I wonder if perhaps we might be missing the big picture here. The EMV standard for credit cards (the kind that has the chip in it as opposed to just the magnetic stripe), for instance, was named for the companies that founded the standard: EuroPay, Mastercard, and Visa. Color me skeptical, but I doubt that the first company was just some little, non-notable company. In fact, it appears that newspapers from the 90s mention them as one of the "giants" of the industry to be mentioned in the same breath as Mastercard and Visa: [1][2][3]. I agree that sources are difficult to find, but I think this is more due to age than anything. bibliomaniac 1 5 21:30, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Bibliomaniac15 summarizes my thoughts well. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 17:26, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep. Newspapers.com returns 135 hits, some of which do appear to provide discussion past mere passing mention of the company and its products or mergers. There is also coverage in a number of books, for example:
- FBIS Report: Central Eurasia, Iss. 47-56 (1994), p. 79: "In 1992, after the sole Russian member of Europay International, the USSR Bank for Foreign Economic Activity, ceased its banking activity in November 1991, Europay International started to accept other Russian banks as members";
- Belgium, Economic and Commercial Information (c. 2001), p. 147: "Europay International, based in Waterloo, Belgium, is the European banks' leading provider of personal payment products and related services".

BD2412 T 02:37, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are sufficient references (at least two) that (just about) meets the criteria for establishing notability, that is significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content. For example Developing and Managing a Successful Payment Cards Business by Jeff H. Slawsky and Samee Zafar discusses the founding of the company as a merger between Eurocheque and Eurocard. Also Online Payment Solutions: The evolution of Visa and Mastercard. provides a paragraph on the history of Europay. While there doesn't appear to be entire tomes written about this topic, since there are references that meet the criteria for notability, topic meets GNG/NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 19:39, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 02:04, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Environmental Waste Controls

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UK based waste control company that doesn't seem to be notable. It's had a notability banner on it since 2010, the sources are all trivial or not reliable, and nothing about them that meets notability standards for companies comes up in a Google search. Adamant1 (talk) 22:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The rather promotionally-worded article text, originally contributed by WP:SPA Ewc12, makes no mention of significant events in the company history, such as financial issues and restructuring in 2013. There is also some announcement coverage relating to plans in 2011 for an Alternative Investment Market listing, and more recent coverage of deals such as with Hibernian FC ([4], [5]), but these are trivial coverage in terms of WP:CORPDEPTH. Clearly a company going about its business, but I am not finding the specific coverage required for WP:NCORP. AllyD (talk) 08:11, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:MILL, WP:NCORP, and WP:SIGCOV. Let's face it, recycling companies and rag men have always been run of the mill and few are notable. This in particular has very shallow sources. Such a company or its owner could become notable by donating stuff to charity, but that's about it. Bearian (talk) 01:31, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 02:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alena Raeva

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Fails WP:NMODEL, article in ru-wiki was deleted. Gruznov (talk) 19:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete failed to satisfy WP:GNG---Richie Campbell (talk) 03:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-notable model.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the winner of one of Miss International franchise beauty contests (therefore meets notability criteria) who has significant coverage in Russian media (see REN and Pyatnitsa on YouTube Russian channels); almost all sources (except one or two) are the secondary ones. Mark Ekimov (talk) 15:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, winning a beauty competition does not mean automatic notability. Dan arndt (talk) 05:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. "Face of Beauty" is not so big as to rate automatic notability. Bearian (talk) 01:33, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:03, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vicki Davis

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A non notable actor, no evidence of substantial secondary sources online. Inappropriately sourced using just IMDB since 2008. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 18:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Weak Keep~~ Weak Delete: Just conceivably the subject's roles in Maybe It's Me (TV series) and Odd Man Out (American TV series) pass the WP:NACTOR threshold, although the shows themselves don't seem all that notable—however, finding sources is very difficult. Her name seems to be quite common, which doesn't help matters. This not-very-good source which provides nothing more than a passing mention may be referring to the subject, but I'm not sure: https://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2018/general-hospital-spoilers-gh-star-takes-on-brand-new-role-exciting-project-brings-big-drama/. Hopefully others will find some sources; otherwise I will likely downgrade my vote. Dflaw4 (talk) 10:55, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no where near enough sourcing to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Updating my vote above: I've done a more discriminating search at newspapers.com, but all the coverage I've found is pretty minor. I see that no one else has had any luck sources-wise either. The subject only has a weak case for WP:NACTOR, too, as I opined above, so I'm downgrading my vote to "Weak Delete". Dflaw4 (talk) 01:10, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: A problem is the subject (a BLP) lacks significant coverage in reliable sources to support a stand alone article. This article joins approximately 1100 others where IMDb is used as a source but is inappropriate. We end up with a pseudo biography (one paragraph) that contains one or more embedded lists of entertainment credits. Wikipedia is not a listing of all things entertainment nor an advertising venue for IMDb. Otr500 (talk) 06:29, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 04:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sourav Dagar

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Fails WP:CRIN as has not played first-class/List A/t20 cricket and under-19 cricketers are not notable. StickyWicket (talk) 21:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify; no significant coverage but may have some later. — J947 ^{(user | cont | ess)}, at 22:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete our cricket notability criteria is one of the worst on record. He clearly does not meet any understanding of the general notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Born Too White

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This is a promotional article: then significant content here is albinism, and more specifically albinism in africa. There is no indication that the particular film here has any notability. DGG ( talk ) 21:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - the persecution of people with albinism in Africa is a serious human rights issue, but this short film isn't notable because of that. A Google search revealed zero newspaper reviews. Please ping me if you find any specific reviews or awards. Bearian (talk) 01:38, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The sources don't confer notability about the film, but rather discuss the persecution of people with albinism in Africa. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 16:49, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable film. The fact that it's about a notable topic that already has an article is irrelevant. Natureium (talk) 14:35, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was draftify. Moved to Draft:Arienne Mandi. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:29, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arienne Mandi

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WP:BLP of an actress, not properly referenced as passing WP:NACTOR. As always, actors and actresses are not all automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist -- they need to have reliable source coverage about them to verify that they pass a notability criterion, such as having multiple (meaning more than one) major (meaning not just one-off guest shots on TV shows she wasn't a regular cast member of) roles and/or winning or getting nominated for a major acting award. But there are just three sources here (four footnotes, but one of them is a repetition of one of the others), of which two — her IMDb profile and her cast bio on the self-published production website of the show she's on — are not reliable or notability-supporting sources at all. And while the other one is a real (albeit paywalled) magazine article, it appears as far as I can tell to be a Q&A interview in which she's talking about herself in the first person — which is a type of source we can use for supplementary verification of stray facts after the person has already gotten over GNG on better ones, but not a type of source that brings a GNG pass all by itself if it's the best sourcing on offer. And even if I'm wrong and it is a real article written in the third person, a person still has to have more than just one of those to pass our notability criteria.
As always, no prejudice against recreation in the future if and when she's got stronger sourcing, but just being verifiable as a working actor is not an automatic notability freebie that would exempt her from having to be referenced better than this. Bearcat (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete the sourcing does not come even close to showing a pass of our notability guidelines for actresses.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Draftify: The subject had a main role in the film, Baja (film), and is currently starring in The L Word: Generation Q, so I believe she passes WP:NACTOR. As for WP:GNG, she does get some non-trivial coverage, such as these articles (and I'm sure there are more):

→https://deadline.com/2019/06/the-l-word-generation-q-adrienne-mandi-leo-sheng-jacqueline-toboni-rosanny-zayas-showtime-1202637138/

→https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/arts/television/l-word-generation-q.html

→https://variety.com/2019/tv/reviews/the-l-word-generation-q-review-showtime-reboot-1203413599/

She also gets a huge number of passing mentions, which can be used to verify her roles, like this: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-capsule-baja-review-20180412-story.html. The page probably was prematurely created, but I don't think deletion is necessary, considering her rising notability. However, if the consensus is against me, I would suggest "Draftifying" the page. Dflaw4 (talk) 11:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify Likely WP:TOOSOON but the sources identified by Dflaw4 and others available in searches (e.g., Distractify, HITC) indicate that her high-profile role is likely to result in RS which would establish clear notability in the near future. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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An impressive amount of subscribers, but there isn't coverage in reliable sources to match. Does not meet WP:GNG, article creator appears to be a UPE creating articles about the channel's productions. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 00:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per GNG and NORG. This is the coverage I could find:

[6] has minor coverage of of the channel and its parent company.
[7] has minor coverage
[8] (from the article) also has minor coverage.
[9] has minor coverage.
[10] has trivial coverage.

Not enough to meet GNG; certainly not enough to meet NORG. userdude 00:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC); struck duplicate entry 01:07, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I am unable to locate any significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, topic therefore fails GNG/WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 12:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Lack of coverage that is significant in independent, reliable sources. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 02:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Faetal

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Completely unsourced article about a band with no strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. The only notability claim being attempted here is that some of their music was included in the soundtrack to a video game -- but that still isn't an instant inclusion freebie in the absence of any reliable source coverage about the band, because we still have to be able to verify that the notability claim is true, and even our article about the video game doesn't claim that any of their music is in it. Furthermore, this has been flagged as unsourced since 2008, without ever seeing a whit of improvement. Bearcat (talk) 21:24, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, no RS. Caro7200 (talk) 22:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The band fails WP:MUSICBIO and lacks coverage in reliable sources. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 15:32, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Unsourced article, does not pass WP:NMUSIC . Alex-h (talk) 18:39, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Still looking for band members 15 years later? Lots of bands get incidental music into games, but that alone doesn't make them notable. Bearian (talk) 01:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jenova Reunion

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Article about a band, not making or sourcing any claim to passing WP:MUSIC. As written, this literally just states that the band exists, without even attempting to state anything about them that could even be measured against NMUSIC at all, and it cites no references whatsoever -- literally the only thing here at all is an external link to their profile on a social networking platform, which is not a notability-supporting source. As always, bands are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist -- they have to have reliable source coverage in media, verifying one or more accomplishments that would satisfy NMUSIC, for an article to become earned. The article was once a lot longer than this prior to 2012, when the page creator blanked most of their own past work on it -- but simply restoring the old version of the article wouldn't save it, because it was still fundamentally advertorial content still not supported by any reliable sourcing.
And for added bonus, the article has literally gone almost completely untouched since then, with just four minor new edits over the next eight years combined, which doesn't speak well of the prospect of salvaging it with new notability claims or sourcing either: if they had accomplished almost anything since 2012 that would have made them appreciably more notable, somebody would already have added it to the article. Bearcat (talk) 21:15, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, no RS to be found. Caro7200 (talk) 22:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per Nom. Unsourced disguised (embedded) list article. Notability is so lacking that the names of the members were omitted from the article. Otr500 (talk) 19:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I ran a Google search and could not find a single reliable source about the band. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 15:39, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete,Per nom. no reliable source , Alex-h (talk) 18:52, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:A9. —⁠烏⁠Γ ^(kaw) │ 09:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above, WP:V. Can't verify them with even a single newspaper review. Bearian (talk) 01:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CleanMyMac

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Fails WP:NSOFT. All sourcing is routine blog site reviews for affiliate pay or routine release announcements. Article and sources have no depth in coverage of the subject itself and just feels like a sly advert. This is no more notable than tens of thousands of other utility software like this that have similar blog site reviews. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:31, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment So it looks as if this went through AfD before and was kept, but was later A7'd multiple times and salted? Not sure what happened between 2014 and this iteration that just came out of draftspace. Maybe two different pieces of software with the same name?Sulfurboy (talk) 20:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I decline to lend weight to the prior AfD, which misapplied GNG/NCORP; participants at it repeatedly relied on sources that plainly were unreliable, non-independent (advertising, promotional, sponsored, affiliate, or primary), or trivial to confer notability. From the sources in the article: Sources 1 and 5 are the same website; source 2 is from a "content partner" and therefore non-independent (not editorially controlled); source 3 is an affiliate and therefore non-independent ("When you purchase something after clicking links in our articles, we may earn a small commission"); source 4 is routine coverage, barely six sentences long, and not notability-conferring; source 5 is the same as source 1; source 6 is non-independent (see Affiliate Disclosure at the bottom); source 8 seems primary and even if it's not it's trivial. We're left with sources 1 and 7. I would argue that source 1 is not significant coverage per #1 of WP:PRODUCTREV, and even if it is, two sources does not notability make. In any event, the notability standards have not been met. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 16:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:58, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

College of the Holy Spirit of Rosario

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This article is about a fake university, or at least an organization that does not seem to be an educational institution of tertiary or any other level.

This is not an officially recognised university in Uruguay, neither an officially recognized "universitary institute" (lower category of tertiary universitary institutions with lesser academic offer), and also is not a tertiary non-universitary recognized institution.

It does not seem to be a former University since I could not find any past reliable references about this. The claim of that this institution was founded in 1970 is not what the cited source said. Moreover, is worth to say that the private universitary institutions began to open in 1984 with Catholic University of Uruguay (that reopened since its closure as an organization with tertiary grades in late 19th century), and before this year of 1984 the only university in the country was the public University of the Republic (ORT Uruguay was established as an organization in 1940s, but recognized as University in 1990s).

An older version of the website https://web.archive.org/web/20150215070136/http://www.cdes.edu.uy/ states that it was at that time registered at the Civil Associations and Foundations Registry of the Ministry of Education and Culture of Uruguay, but this does not mean it was an university, furthermore it cannot be taken as a proof unless a non-affiliated source would be provided.

The older (archived) website stated it was based in "Avda Artigas 673, Juan Lacaze, Colonia, Uruguay", but the newer (archived) website "Zorrilla de San Martin 526, Rosario, Colonia, Uruguay". Both mentions religious activities led by "Daniel Esteban Odin". The current version of the website does not even say anything about activities in Uruguay at all, just links websites of its affiliated organizations in countries in Central America. The current version of the website seems to be usurped by another (unrelated) alleged organization (that could be linked to an US based organization), that in appearance is different of what it looked like and it is poorly designed with tons of plain links.

Searches in Google Maps street view did not reveal the location of the headquarters and its building, not in the claimed one in Juan Lacaze city neither the claimed one in Rosario city.

The article says "It was the only private university in the state of Colonia, Uruguay Country for 11 years until 2007.", and it is clear that who wrote the article does not know enough about Uruguay, because first level administrative division of the country are "departments", not "states". And is also worth to know that it claims to have around 10,000 students (in a city with a population of 10,085 inhabitants in 2011; the department of Colonia where the city is part of has 123,203 inhabitants), while properly established and well know private Uruguayan universities have 5,000~10,000 students and the main public university has 100,000 students.

I could research more, but I think this is enough to consider the deletion of this article. I would like to add that since Wikipedia started to spread this false information in internet a circular reference began to spread in https://academicinfluence.com/schools/28220974/College-of-the-Holy-Spirit-of-Rosario/.

Precedent: it seems to be related to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Handbook of Universities and the hoax spreaded by the author of the article, Taesulkim. There even mentions "Prof.+Daniel+Odin+(Ph.D.)" in a linked website. Onwa (talk) 20:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Its author Taesulkim was not notified due to being indefinitely blocked. --Onwa (talk) 21:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:V and WP:HOAX. I tried four different searches, from Google to scholar, and found nothing at all except a single Wiki mirror. Bearian (talk) 01:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Sulfurboy (talk) 07:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Melick

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Notability is questionable. Dont seem to find much sources about his work or achievement online. Roy17 (talk) 19:35, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete an oral history of the subject is a primary source. Wikipedia is supposed to be based on secondary not primary sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:17, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as exercising WP:AGF in the article there are listed reliable sources offline newspaper articles directly about him such as The Japan Times, Nevada State Journal, Reno Evening Gazette and others which is enough to pass WP:GNG in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:57, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I found a brief mention of him in Texas Monthly. Although all of the sources cited in the article are offline sources, it appears that they were published by reputable media outlets (Billboard, Reno Evening Gazette, The Japan Times, etc). I'm not sure if all of these sources are independent of the subject but based on their titles, it looks like refs 4 through 7 might be independent of the subject. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 16:05, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The scope and breadth of the sourcing meets the general notability guideline based on the references already in the article. Alansohn (talk) 01:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I'm assuming the newspaper refs are legit. Though the article should be trimmed substantially to focus on sourced content. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 16:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keepappears to met GNG. Djflem (talk) 17:40, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per the comments I made earlier. Some of the article's sources are notable and appear to be independent of the subject. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 21:04, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep WP:SNOW based on changes since nomination and nominator's comment below. -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Darby (disambiguation)

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Every article in this page has people with similar, but distinct full names. There are short hatnotes on all three of the articles that make it is a lot easier to navigate for people who accidentally made a typo or need a distinguishment per WP:HATCHEAP. And before anyone asks, I have looked throughout Wikipedia to see if there was anyone else with a name similar to Stephen (or Steve) Darby (or Derby) and I couldn't find any at all. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 19:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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keep not again! you have been told at previous afds that there is nothing wrong with dabs with 3 entries. They do not have distinct full names - the football coach is a Stephen too, as his article makes clear, and the redirect. Stephen Derby (which is pronounced the same as Darby) lived 14th century, before standardised spelling. His name was probably spelt many different ways in original documents, probably often in Latin rather than English, so is definitely needed here. Boleyn (talk) 07:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Boleyn: I wouldn't have minded the dab page if there wasn't an "appearant WP:PRIMARYTOPIC", which there isn't. The hatnote isn't long or "busy" at all, plus there are less than three links in each hatnote, which is very little compared to many others. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 13:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TWODABS. While it is true that spelling was rather fluid in the heyday of the MP (e.g. Shakspere), the only source spells his name Derby. Anything more is speculative. Hatnotes are sufficient in this case. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Clarityfiend, 2dabs says nothing that would support deletion for this. Boleyn (talk) 13:19, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Boleyn. And hatnotes are rarely a good idea when there's more than one option, as they look too "busy". -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Necrothesp: Busy? How? If there were more than two links in the hatnote or it was longer than a line, then it would be "busy". The disambiguation page seems unnecessary just for two links which easily fit in a hatnote. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 13:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Two dabs = hatnote only; more than two dabs = dab page. This is always how we do it. No reason to make an exception here because you don't like it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:26, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Exactly. Also someone looking carefully added entries, as often happens. Dabs are also far easier to expand than hatnotes. This seems to be a campaign based on personal preference rather than guidelines. Boleyn (talk) 13:31, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - @Boleyn + @Necrothesp: I was referring to how the dab page looked like before the additions by JHunterJ. Now that the dab page has been expanded, there really isn't a point in keeping this discussion going on any longer. I would like to withdraw my nomination however I can't due to WP:WITHDRAWN. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 16:11, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I expanded the list with other MOS:DABMENTIONs. (Adding -football to the search helped.) -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Embraer. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 19:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

EmbraerX

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Seems to be a none notable division of the Embraer. From what I've found in a search they haven't released any products yet and only thing being worked on is still a concept. So this counts as to soon IMO. It also fails for the standards of notability for companies. As nothing except trivial coverage on them comes up in a search. That said, I'd be fine if it was merged to Embraer. It looks like they aren't even mentioned there. Which also speaks to their lack of notability. Adamant1 (talk) 18:58, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or merge - Keep, or merge to Embraer. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Embraer. Mccapra (talk) 04:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Embraer. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 16:20, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Embraer. HighKing⁺⁺ 20:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:40, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Westbrook University

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"In general, all colleges and universities are de facto notable and should be included on Wikipedia."

However, this "university" isn't accredited and is not recognized by the United States Department of Education. I can't find any independent, reliable sources on it.

Amazingly, it seems as though the majority of search results for "Westbrook University" involve articles mentioning individuals with the last name of Westbrook that happen to have University as the next word.

I don't see how it meets any general requirement of notability and doesn't even seem to meet the criteria of WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 18:35, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. For quite some time I've had this on my watchlist and tried to prevent the inclusion of unsourced or badly sourced content in the article (which culminated in my getting an email containing a legal threat today) on the basis that it's better to have an article that shows that this "university" (and don't get me started on the way that Americans allow anyone to call themselves a university, debasing the word) is run by charlatans so readers can see it for what it is, but now after searching I see that there are no sources that bring it anywhere close to notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Stub. As mentioned above, unaccredited and unrecognized. Is it that notable? TuorEladar (talk) 21:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as failing WP:GNG. Articles about questionable institutions (a "university" that uses a Gmail address?) can be helpful to readers, as Phil Bridger notes, but there aren't sufficient sources here. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:50, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 02:12, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Marc Hodosh

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I initially tried to redirect to TEDMED but it's been contested. Hodosh is not independently notable of TEDMED and this article should be deleted and redirected to TEDMED as there are no sufficient sources about Hodosh directly. Praxidicae (talk) 17:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep In agreement with userdude's notes below, to keep page, per relevant sources indicated. Also, to address concern by Praxidicae, added citation on main page to Entrepreneur Magazine which is independent article significantly about Hodosh, in addition to already existing citations. Praxidicae: Do you consider this sufficient to address your concern and conclude discussion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.218.184.166 (talk) 17:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfuly disagree, as this page has been in place since 2012, plenty of sufficient sources online as well as individual's other businesses are of notable mention. Also appears TEDMED was sold, so that is not an appropriate redirect while his new business involves Dr. Sanjay Gupta, with high notability. His previous colleagues have existing pages as well with no contention.

With brief search, additional source links for page notability include:

https://blog.ted.com/tedmed_a_new_pa/

https://xconomy.com/boston/2007/08/23/entrepreneur-segways-toward-medical-revolution-directing-genomics-x-prize/

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/15402

https://www.forbes.com/2009/10/30/healthcare-irobot-cancer-technology-breakthroughs-tedmed.html#5e83a6c2319b

Open to discussion but especially during these particular times, I think better to keep such health related pages active.----- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.218.184.166 (talk) 17:53, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Existing for a long time doesn't make something notable. You'll need to provide sources that feature in-depth, independent coverage. His "colleagues" having articles is also 100% irrelevant. Praxidicae (talk) 18:25, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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In reply to: "His "colleagues" having articles is also 100% irrelevant.": It's relevant in this instance as it's of the same nature. Chris Anderson (notable for TED) or Richard Wurman both have similar pages. Also, see above links for independent sources from Entrepreneur Magazine, Forbes, Xconomy, and others. Also additional in-depth links include Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm0108-8

This page could use work, but believe it's appropriate, with sources found on page as well. No major objections. Rather than back and forth, open to other opinions. Stay safe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.218.184.166 (talk) 18:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:OTHERSTUFF. Also you'll want to take a look at WP:COI. Praxidicae (talk) 18:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding "other stuff", I think we disagree and welcome input, as I've provided sources. Regarding "COI", don't understand, I see no COI. Stay safe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.218.184.166 (talk • contribs)

It's not a matter of disagreeing with each other but consensus and policy. You can disagree that water is wet, it does not make you right. Praxidicae (talk) 19:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree and welcome the additional opinion. If consensus turns out that this page is in violation then I will assist you in redirecting or deleting other pages with same parameters accordingly. Stay safe during these complex times. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.218.184.166 (talk) 19:13, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Wikipedia's general inclusion criterion is the WP:GNG (simplified summary). In order for sources to qualify for this criterion, they must be reliable and independent. Of the sources in the article:

[11] is a primary source
[12] is a primary source
[13] is a primary source
[14] is a primary source
[15] Is not independent and is a blog post.
[16] is a primary source

Of the sources 73.218.184.166 added:

[17] See above.
[18] (from Xconomy) is significantly about Hodosh.
[19] (from Entrepreneur (magazine)) is significantly about Hodosh.
[20] only trivially mentions that Hodosh runs TEDMED
[21] is a Q&A and therefore not independent

Of additional sources I found:

[22] only mentions Hodosh trivially; may not be reliable
[23] (from The Providence Journal) is about Hodosh
[24] (Boston Herald) has minor coverage of Hodosh
[25] (Forbes) has minor coverage of Hodosh
[26] only trivially mentions Hodosh
[27] (Boston.com) has minor coverage of Hodosh

All in all, I think this is enough to meet WP:GNG. The article still needs to be rewritten to meet WP:V. userdude 20:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC); edited 20:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In agreement with UserDude as there are sufficient independent sources provided. Separately, while perhaps not directly related to Wikipedia's general inclusion criteria, considering that Hodosh's co-host and partner (Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN) is the most recognized person on television news right now, this page is additionally relevant. I support to Keep page and close this discussion immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.188.253 (talk) 15:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment to whomever closes or relists this, please note that aside from UserDude, every single keep has been an SPA who shares the same geolocation with the subject and the subsequent IP edits are in the same geolocation. Praxidicae (talk) 17:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~

Praxidicae, This is not accurate. 73.78.158.214 is from Colorado, 73.218.184.166 from Boston and 72.200.188.253 is from Rhode Island, although agree on SPA. Regardless, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-admin_closure there are no formal requirements in terms of time spent on Wikipedia or number of contributions made for non-administrators to close discussions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Texasnexus (talk • contribs) 18:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Texasnexus, consider her overturning your closure to be endorsed by myself. I neither know nor care how you came across this AFD, but I will always support overturning the closure of an AFD when it is literally the first edit made by an account. Primefac (talk) 18:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser note: I have struck Texasnexus's comment per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. Mz7 (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As a full disclosure, I was asked to look into this close as "suspicious". I concur with that assessment. While there is a reasonable rebuttal of the nomination by one user, the proliferation of SPAs has me concerned about the overall neutrality of the voices and honestly I'd like to get some more neutral eyes to look into the article. If an admin finds that despite these concerns the keep is justified (or at the very least a "no consensus") I have no prejudice against a "speedy" closure post-relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 18:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The article needs a rewrite and the scope broadened - by our definition he is more notable for his work related to genomics and longevity than TEDMED:
Talking to Robots by David Ewing Duncan; almost the entire chapter
2007 article from The Economist ;
Gen E: Generation Entrepreneur is Rewriting the Rules of Business--and You Can, Too! ,*
"X games for scientists offers $10m top prize" from the Boston Globe ;
"Hot to Bot", another article from the Boston Globe
Xconomy "Entrepreneur Segways Toward Medical Revolution Directing Genomics X Prize"
Entrepreneur "Package Deal"
Boston Business Journal "Inventor Kamen joins advisory board of facial recognition company ID One"
The Tab "The X factor: Innovator leading charge in genetic competition"

All of the above provide extensive coverage, and there are more refs than what I have included here. But I just accidentally hit publish (distracted on this Covid-19 morning) so leaving it here. (I will work on a rewrite of the article because I have nothing but time.) JSFarman (talk) 13:25, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. bibliomaniac 1 5 04:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vinayagapuram Maha Vidyalayam

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, lacks any references or sources Dan arndt (talk) 17:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that of the three references subsequently provided one is a deadlink, the other is Tamil (which is only a mention is passing - not significant coverage) and the third is to the article on the Tamil Wikipedia (which is not an acceptable source and doesn't have any reliable supporting reference/sources). Dan arndt (talk) 03:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom Steven (Editor) (talk) 19:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Age Of Civilizations 2

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Contested PROD. Could not find any multiple reliable sources to establish notability in. Moreover, there's also nothing on Age Of Civilizations 1, either, in my searching. --MuZemike 17:15, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A paragraph in RPS and that's it. This is a delete. --Izno (talk) 17:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I couldn't find any reviews in the press, nor any significant coverage. TheAwesome Hwyh 20:13, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not pass the GNG test. Pichpich (talk) 22:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The subject is not notable for inclusion in the English Wikipedia because it does not have any significant coverage or reliable sources. Koridas (Speak) 01:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rui Pereira (architect)

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WP:BLP of a person notable only for participating in the renovation and reopening of two local movie theatres in a single city, not referenced well enough to get him over WP:GNG for it. Two of the seven footnotes here are blogs, and one is a community hyperlocal, which aren't sources that help to get him over GNG at all -- and while the other four sources are real daily newspapers and a book, they all just briefly namecheck Rui Pereira's existence within coverage of other things rather than being substantively about him. As always, people aren't automatically entitled to Wikipedia articles just because their name has been mentioned a few times in the local media -- the more localized a person's notability claim is, the better they have to be sourced before they actually clear the notability bar in an international encyclopedia, and nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to show more than just a few brief mentions of his name in coverage of other things. Bearcat (talk) 17:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete does not meet notability guidelines or architects.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no evidence of notability. Mccapra (talk) 05:48, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ratnesh Barnwal

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Non notable actor has played no significant roles. Fails WP:BIO and WP:NACTOR. Cant seem to find any independent coverage on him. - FitIndia ^{Talk Commons} 16:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the subject (a comedy actor) passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. I believe it is wrong to assume that only actors with lead roles should have Wikipedia articles. Supporting actors and film comedians can also have articles, see the enormous list on Category:Comedians. This actor has worked in multiple films as shown in this link [28]. As for the example of Independent coverage, after going through the google translate, these articles [29] [30] easily qualifies for independent and significant coverage by Jagran and Bhaskar that are reputed national newspapers from India. Cedix (talk) 17:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Article somehow manages to scratch the surface of crossing GNG. Still looking for sources. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 22:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It is openly seen that article passes WP:GNG. Barnwal is an Bhojpuri movie comedian actor as showed in source: Jagran and Bhaskar. --Raaj Tilak (talk) 06:34, 10 April 2020 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Raaj Tilak (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
Delete the keep claims are a bit absurd considering the sources are all other Wikis/unreliable sources/listings. Praxidicae (talk) 15:12, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. He appears to be a run of the mill bit actor, possibly a little person? Bearian (talk) 01:49, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete appear to have acted in some minor non-notable productions. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. GSS ^💬 06:12, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Above editors, please review the detailed coverage provided in the links I shared. --Cedix (talk) 17:09, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

None of those sources support notability. GSS ^💬 17:44, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And why not ? aren't they "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" ? Cedix (talk) 19:35, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:30, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ankita Harshvardhan Patil

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Does not meet WP:NPOL, only position is in local government. Only source just says she is the daughter of a state government minister. MB 16:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. People are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they have jobs: they actually have to have genuine evidence of fairly broad significance, supported by reliable source coverage about them in media (which is not the same thing as "coverage of other people that happens to also briefly mention this person's name"). But nothing stated in the article is an "inherently" notable role that would get her over WP:NPOL, and the article is not referenced even remotely close to well enough to get her over WP:GNG. And notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, either: people aren't automatically notable just because they happen to have a family relationship to a notable person — so just because her father has an article doesn't mean she's automatically entitled to have one too. Also there's a possible conflict of interest here, as the creator's username also has the subject's surname in it. Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-notable local politician.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Very minor local politico. Notability is not inherited from her father. Bearian (talk) 01:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Bernie Sanders#Early life. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 02:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Elias Sanders

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No notability or accomplishments whatsoever. Notability is not inherited. Kbabej (talk) 16:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete close relatives of notable people do not become notable for that fact.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notability is not a matter of your relatives or accomplishments; it's a matter of sourcing per the WP:GNG. We have detailed sources about the life of the subject and so they pass WP:BASIC. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Care to discuss which sources, and what to they say? It's enough to tell is '4 paragraphs on page 7 of source XYZ', no need to cite in detail. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete notability isn't inherited, and Elias doesn't seem to be noted for anything of his own merit (i.e. outside of family affiliations). Furthermore, aside from a routine burial posting at Find a Grave (which doesn't even offer a cumulative paragraph of coverage), the only third party references used that specifically focus on him (not just pieces on his sons or their commentary on him) are questionable (Bustle, Notes from Poland) or subpar (Heavy.com). This site already has previously given too much lenience to articles on relatives of politicians, and keeping this page would only worsen that. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 19:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to article about his notable son/politician. But I don't see what makes him notable on its own. WP:NOTINHERITED. He had a normal, non-encyclopedic life, and no source even discusses him in detail relevant to the life of his son. PS. A possible solution is to have an article about the early life of Bernie where this redirects. Consider: father of Pope JP2 redirects to Early life of Pope John Paul II. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/merge All coverage is in the context of Bernie and inherited, not independently notable. Reywas92^Talk 18:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/merge per WP:NOTINHERITED. Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. My reasoning to nominate this page for deletion was a little shortsighted and now seeing as how it can be expanded, I am withdrawing my nomination. (non-admin closure) KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 16:35, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Breukelen (disambiguation)

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Only two other articles in the disambiguation page. It's a lot easier to use a hatnote at the top of the page per WP:HATCHEAP. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 14:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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keep please stop nominating dabs for deletion when they have 3 or more entries. dabs are cheap too. This is a valid and useful page and all these afds are a waste of editors' time. I am not convinced you are even looking for possible entries first. Boleyn (talk) 14:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to WONB. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WOHA-FM

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Radio station of unclear notability that doesn't exist yet. ... discospinster _talk 13:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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merge with WONB. I can't see enough notability for a standalone. Although looking at that article, there's also no references included. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
delete - too soon. WONB should be merged and redirected to Ohio Northern University. Sounds like the call letters are being retired for over the air broadcasts. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 22:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Unnecessary - We don't need two articles for the same station. History merge (pinging Mlaffs), callsign merge, and put everything on the current callsign. Don't create two pages for the same station. You know this people. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:34 on April 9, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome
Redirect to WJTA This station is planned as a 24/7 simulcast of that station with no local programming whatsoever; a mere mention of its calls and basic details, followed by a link to their FMQ is more appropriate than creating an unneeded carbon copy. Appropriate mention of the station's fate can be made on the WONB page, which can be retitled WONB (1991–2020) once the transfer from ONU to Holy Family Communications is actually made. However, I will cede to Mlaff's analysis of the situation, as they might have a better suggestion. Nate • (chatter) 05:03, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Since WONB has the history of the station, just going straight redirect kinda loses all that history. Sometimes, even though a station is a 24/7 simulcast, having a page with historical information of past ownerships is OK. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 10:29 on April 9, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome
In and of itself, a separate article on WOHA is a bit premature, simply because that call sign hasn't taken effect yet and that incarnation of the station is yet to launch. (The current general practice is that yet-to-launch stations generally don't get articles unless the general notability guideline is somehow met in some other way.) Since WOHA will operate on the same license as the current WONB, for all intents and purposes it isn't independently notable of WONB. Yet apparently the current WONB programming, and that identity, will continue as a webcast, that without the connection to a licensed broadcast station probably wouldn't be independently notable of Ohio Northern University. But any potential notability for the station with this broadcast license is tied in to the fact that WONB as it exists now originates programming; detached from that, WOHA will not be independently notable of its parent station WJTA! And that's all before considering the present limited-to-no sourcing. (And the article title is wrong, as the WOHA call sign request doesn't include an "-FM" suffix, so under naming conventions it would be more properly at WOHA (FM) — a questionable-notability radio station seems unlikely to displace the Singapore architectural firm that is the current primary topic at WOHA, but that's beyond the scope of AfD.) I suspect in the end some nominal merging of sourced content, and redirects as required, should happen, somewhere and somehow… but for the WOHA-FM article as it exists now, I'm leaning towards delete. --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this article, add information about the sale to the article currently at WONB, and move WONB to WOHA (FM), with WOHA-FM as a redirect, when the call sign change is official in FCC databases. Typically, we maintain one article per station license. A station that is currently a rebroadcaster of a larger network but was a separate station in the past typically has its own article (similar examples from my DYK record include KYFO-FM and KNKL (FM)). Raymie (t • c) 04:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Planned call sign, and not even the correct form of it. Delete this article, and then we can figure out how to handle splitting up the WONB article once the license assignment has closed and the change of call sign has actually taken place. Mlaffs (talk) 15:42, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge With WONB, due to the fact that the callsign change does not seem to be assigned yet, also due to a lack of notability, perhaps adding a section about the acquisition by Holy Family Communications. As stated in a previous comment, adding a redirect after the merge would be a good idea.Stickymatch (talk) 00:45, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Discussion Started: Just letting everyone know that Stickymatch has started a merge discussion on WOHA-FM's talk page. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 08:19 on April 11, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome
Redirect to WONB: Though it has a tentative launch date, its details haven't reflected on the FCC database yet. Hence, it's WP:TOOSOON. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 01:24, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - I'm not sure what to add to the above arguments. We shouldn't keep this as is, but outright deletion appears to be the wrong call. I'd prefer that things get merged. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:28, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Murtaza

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Obvious. A one-liner without any references and the subject is a given name. Fails notability. AhmadLX-(Wikiposta) 13:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep + populate: there are lots of articles about people called Murtaza and a list of them csn be added to make this a functioning name page. Perhaps the nomr would like to do that? Ingratis (talk) 23:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Is there any version within the revision history which may be salvageable? The current version appears to be providing possible misinformation based on prior diffs. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 23:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, this version of April 2018 appears to be the most complete version and includes a list of around 30 notable people with this name, since then, it has been heavily edited, read most content removed, by various ips/learners(?)/puppets that seem to have some sort of bugbear against people with this name, suggest that it can go back to/add most of this version with a few relevant adjustments. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:54, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Per above. This is not even the first article of this kind. Orientls (talk) 11:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and restore/expand to proper DAB page. Note to nominator, WP:BEFORE and WP:ATD require us to consider a page's potential for expansion, as well as to review if there is any viable content in its history, prior to nominating a page for deletion. postdlf (talk) 15:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep In favor of WP:ATD-T Sulfurboy (talk) 04:11, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:28, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Text Verification Tool

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Fails to establish notability – sourced primarily to the manufacturer's website, the few remaining references are to market news aggregators and infomercials. I haven't succeeded in finding independent secondary sources. Article created and predominantly edited by a single-purpose account, and the promotional tone makes one suspect a COI. kashmīrī ^TALK 12:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, not a single mention in independent sources. Very promotional. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, I will correct the entries and add the missing references. Text Verification Tool is known in the industry for proofreading tools and relevant to the pharma industry. – Transsonic (talk) 17:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete overly promotional, no evidence of notability. ST47 (talk) 16:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Article Updated, Entries with no evidence of notability removed, references updated – Transsonic (talk) 18:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Usage share of Google Chrome extensions

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i'm not even sure what N criteria this would fall under but it doesn't meet any and is rather unencyclopedic. Praxidicae (talk) 12:22, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Un-encyclopedic and WP:NOTSTATS--Editor-1 (talk) 14:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It's merely recreating a list generated by a commercial website that sells monitoring of browser extensions. Not notable, not reliable source, not encyclopedic. Schazjmd (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Absolutely nothing worthy of an encyclopedic here. Ajf773 (talk) 20:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the above, WP:NOTSTATS. SemiHypercube 20:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete too trivial. desmay (talk) 20:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:25, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rattanakosin Kingdom (1932–1939)

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This period is neither distinct or long enough to merit its own page. The article History of Thailand (1932–1973) covers this topic already. Sodacan (talk) 11:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. This appears to be a misguided attempt to treat the country's renaming as a formative event and arrange the articles accordingly, but a formative event it is not. We don't split history articles merely according to name changes. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to History of Thailand (1932–1973) since other article already covers this small subject. Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 14:42, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Absolutely empty sectioned article with no sources about it. 🌺Kori🌺 - (@) 16:27, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Trip.com Group. Consensus to not keep, but split between merge and delete. Redirect is my usual compromise solution in such cases; editors can still merge stuff from the history. Sandstein 07:07, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TrainPal

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Fails WP:GNG and seems to have been written as WP:PROMO. Abishe (talk) 11:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment that it doesn't look particularly promotional to me, except in that some of the links are junk. But they seemed to be mixed in with enough links with focused coverage to pass GNG. I am not entirely convinced there is enough non-routine coverage to pass WP:CORPDEPTH, however. I'm on the fence. 67.243.20.177 (talk) 19:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment having read through this article and done a little bit research myself, I found the company is credible, and most of the references used in the article are from reliable sources. Therefore, my overall opinion is that this article well deserves to be accepted by Wikipedia, though modifications with the description and the references are encouraged. For the references: as suggested by the administrative editor, the main problem with this article seems to be ″promotional″ WP:PROMO. This does not feel like a problem to me, yet can be addressed by deleting/changing certain references if it does to other editors. For the description, as also mentioned by an earlier editor, more details on the company's history, organization, etc., would better be included to pass WP:CORPDEPTH. I will be more than happy with this article being accepted given the authors revise accordingly, but am also okay if the authors decide to leave it ″as is″ for the time being.Thuslittleseven (talk) 17:58, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You can of course tag it with SPA if you want, but even with a couple of common points, there's not enough to overcome AGF. Closing admin can weigh as they see fit, though I suspect Sandstein probably relisted on a delete/merge split Nosebagbear (talk) 20:28, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Doesn't meet SIGCOV guidelines in provided sources. GrangerShots (talk) 14:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as likely paid-for spam. I've blocked the creator for this. MER-C 13:27, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redirect to Trip.com Group, the parent company of TrainPal, per Wikipedia:Editing policy#Try to fix problems. I reviewed the article and consider it neutrally written:
TrainPal is an online ticketing platform owned and operated by Ctrip.
Launched in February 2018 in the United Kingdom, and website.
TrainPal is mainly for the United Kingdom, other European countries, with the feature of "split ticketing", making its debut in the UK in February 2018.
In July 2018, the software was launched in Italy, and Italo. In September, it entered German by collaborating with Deutsche Bahn.
TrainPal has been accredited by the National Rail of the United Kingdom.
The text does not use promotional language.
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Merge to Trip.com Group as advised by Cunard. The sourcing is not sufficient for NCORP/NPRODUCT requirements, but certainly could be added into its parent's page. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:24, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no demonstration of WP:RS. Fails GNG, ORG. Also it is likely SPAM [33]. Not a platform for advertising or promotion WP:PROMO. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 02:22, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Redirect - We have only a bit of useful information and just slight notability, so I agree that we should send things over to 'Trip.com Group'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:33, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Fayers

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY BlameRuiner (talk) 11:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete a non-notable footballer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NFOOTBALL. WWGB (talk) 12:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 14:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 20:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:38, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Automation and the Future of Jobs

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I can't find any reviews or any significant coverage of this documentary in Swedish or in English. The film exists, the sources verify that (and I think I'll try to find time to watch it as it seems interesting) but that doesn't mean it is notable. It is simply a UR documentary like many many others; I'm a fan of UR, they produce good stuff, but this fails WP:GNG as well as WP:NFILM. I thought that perhaps the filmmaker might be notable enough so there could be an article about him which this could redirect to, but I haven't even been able to find sources for that. bonadea contributions talk 10:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no evidence of significant coverage in English or Swedish (Note: there are only 1-2 decent references in Swedish language article, if there were more available then we could use them here.) Joseph2302 (talk) 11:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, exactly – I added one of the sources in the sv.wiki article to this one, and so two of the three sources used there are present here, the third one being IMDB so not useful for en.wiki purposes. --bonadea contributions talk 09:34, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This seems to be an excellent example of the principles that "famous doesn't necessarily mean notable" and "well-known doesn't necessarily mean notable". It's a run-of-the-mill production broadcast by a group that does such work routinely. One can as a reasonable person totally find it frustrating that on Wiki we have articles on all kinds of awkward and weird things but not on some genuinely helpful matters, but that's just how it is. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:22, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sleeper x

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Non-notable band, famous in their own lunchtime in Australia. Article was created in 2006 and then ended with the sentence "The band are currently in pre-production for their debut full length album, The Long March" which it seems is still a work in progress. Releases are two EPs for Cartel Music and a self-released split EP. Nothing indicates any notability. Emeraude (talk) 08:22, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, no RS to be found; many dead links. Caro7200 (talk) 12:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: fails WP:GNG and WP:BAND. The dead links aren't a problem, because they are all retrievable using the Wayback Machine, but they don't amount to much. The Perthmusic source is a primary source interview with the lead singer and is a blog. The FasterLouder source is a review of a local alternative metal festival in which Sleeper X were one of ten bands playing (and were not the headliners). The Music Vice source is an interview with the band who recorded the split EP with them, and they are mentioned in just one paragraph. The Mediasearch citation, a review of one of the EPs, is the closest thing to a decent source, but the website is hosted on Wordpress and still appears to be nothing more than a news gathering website, edited by one person and helped by a bunch of voluntary contributors. In short, this band don't appear to have received any attention outside of the Perth underground metal scene. The three EPs listed in the article appear to be the only things the band ever recorded – the Music Vice interview with Errata states that Sleeper X had split up by 2010, so there are certainly no more sources waiting to be found from the past ten years. Richard3120 (talk) 16:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Teraplane (talk) 22:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, all references have been updated and further reliable sources added which addresses WP:GNG. Dan arndt (talk) 08:19, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't see how any of the newly added sources help with notability. The AllMusic source is an empty entry so it's no use whatsoever. The Music Forge states on its site that it is a "non-commercial/hobbyist site" which accepts voluntary contributions, so it isn't going to be acceptable as an RS because it's no more than a community blog. X-Press and Groove were local Perth magazines, so again no indication of notability outside of their home town. Rockus no longer exists, which suggests it was a blog. The St. George's Online website was just an online record shop. Richard3120 (talk) 13:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The band fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. The references cited in the article are either interviews or press releases. I can't find in-depth secondary coverage. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 16:10, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deshaj Times

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Promotional. Lack of reliable secondary sources to pass the notability. - The9Man ^(Talk) 07:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Article doesn't support Wikipedia general notability guidelines. --Raaj Tilak (talk) 07:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG. Appears to be written by the site's founder, who has been previously been issued a COI notice due to writing articles about non-notable relatives. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails all the criteria of Wikipedia:Notability (web) and also fails WP:GNG. As the subject lacks coverage in reliable media. Cedix (talk) 14:58, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Joaquim Custódia

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A non notable actor, article inappropriately using only IMDB as a source. Research shows that some of the article’s credits weren’t even credited roles, and most were minor appearances. No evidence of substantial secondary sources that could help improve article. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 07:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete while the just over 2 years survival with this non-exitent of sourcing has nothing on the 14 or more years survival I have seen recently with some other articles with such atrotious sourcing, we should still not allow it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No evidence of notability in article or in searches. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oxi Fresh Carpet Cleaning

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Does not appear to meet WP:NCORP. The article was originally created by a copywriter for the company, and has changed little in the intervening years. The sources provided are passing mentions and listings only, and a search for more has only provided press releases (presumably produced by the article's author) and a single interview with the company's director. Yunshui ^雲 _水 07:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete God loves a trier, but really! Mccapra (talk) 09:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails to meet any of the notability guidelines, and not likely to do so in the foreseeable future. --Jack Frost (talk) 23:33, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. No prejudice against redirection. czar 00:27, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

StackMat timer

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Entirely unreferenced article that fails to demonstrate any notability, and contains nothing but a description of the product and what it does - nothing that might be considered to be encyclopedic content. In its current form it serves only to promote or publicise the product, and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic. Dorsetonian (talk) 06:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete maybe there’s a prize for going 16 years without sources? Mccapra (talk) 09:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Have now added some sources. Gazamp (talk) 09:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment thanks but these are passing mentions. None of them is about the subject. Some just namecheck it and others just briefly mention what it is. Mccapra (talk) 12:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment, this appears to be essential equipment for Speedcubing (see Speedcubing#Competitions), so not sure that it is actually "promotional" (ie. no links to/promotional words on any specific brand/type of timer), at the very least, a Redirect may be in order, as a wikireader lookup? ps. as an aside, yes, its interesting that it has remained unsourced for so long (more editors should join Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles, now this is some blatant promotion:)), but that isn't really a reason to delete, i note that other "essential" sports equipment articles are also un/underreferenced, for example, the hockey stick article, although being around 1400 words long, has unreferenced sections and a total of 3 references, yes i know the "other things" argument is a no no, nevertheless.... Coolabahapple (talk) 02:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete (second choice would be a redirect to Speedcubing#Competitions but to be honest I'd prefer to delete the StackMat reference, which is an odd brand reference in the middle of an article, there too). The sources in the article fall well short of anything that would convey notability (it's all trivial coverage, passing mentions of StackMat in articles all about other things) and I didn't find much else through my search. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 08:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Fenix down (talk) 06:20, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Caulfield

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Fails WP:FOOTBALL because he has never played or managed a team in a WP:FPL. I found a two page interview in Scotzine which isn't enough for passing WP:GNG. Dougal18 (talk) 19:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Seems to pass WP:GNG, considering he's won several Scottish Women's Premier League titles. Although he is for sure not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The article should be moved to Peter Caulfield (football coach). KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 21:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree the actor should probably be the primary topic. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 16:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence this person meets GNG. Any detailed sources out there @KingSkyLord:? Achievements are worthless if they are not supported by significant coverage. Giant Snowman 17:13, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Detailed source here, @GiantSnowman:. Nfitz (talk) 19:39, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's a) a tabloid and non-RS and b) about the season rather than him. Giant Snowman 17:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see no indication in guidance documents that the Daily Record is not considered a reliable source - is there guidance on that somewhere? I'm also puzzled on why the size of paper it's printed on is a factor. The Independent published for a while in Tabloid format - was that not reliable? Nfitz (talk) 18:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Coverage is mostly WP:ROUTINE. Notability (especially for a WP:BLP) is not automatically inherited from the teams he has coached. Cheers, 1292simon (talk)

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Keep per GNG. Hmlarson (talk) 19:41, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per GNG. [34], [35], [36] People can argue the coverage is routine, but in truth it is exactly the sort of reporting you would expect to see about a notable football manager. Namely cliche-ridden stuff with him talking about being "over the moon" or "sick as a parrot" depending on results. We've seen time and again that the WP:FPL essay isn't relevant for women's football. I'd venture it's doubly irrelevant for any players/managers in Scotland – since quite a few Championship clubs in Scotland which the essay purports are "fully professional" are anything but. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 16:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. BBC 2009 is trivial coverage (a one line quote), BBC 2019 is arguably trivial and non-independent (it's mostly an interview; six of the nine paragraphs are spoken by Caulfield himself), GlasgowTimes is primary/non-notability-conferring because it's entirely an interview; The Herald and In the Winning Zone are arguable but don't constitute sufficient coverage taken as a whole. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 17:04, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think User:L235, that when you add all that with the Daily Record article, that there is sufficient coverage. You didn't comment on that one. Nfitz (talk) 18:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Nfitz that I didn't comment on the Daily Record article specifically, but I don't think that piece contributes to notability at all. The parts that contain unfiltered interview is all primary, and excluding that interview (the great majority of the article) the source counts as trivial coverage. Kevin (alt of L235 · t · c) 18:53, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing how it's trivial - it's much of the article. I'm also not sure the basis that you are tossing interviews as being primary sources. The article isn't just an interview ... interviewing someone as part of an article, doesn't make the article a primary source. In WP:GNG "independent of the source" says "... example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website". It doesn't preclude (for example) biographies that involved an interview of the subject. Nfitz (talk) 19:42, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see where you're coming from, Nfitz, but I respectfully disagree on both points. GNG specifically says secondary sources are the sources that count for notability purposes, and NOR subsection WP:PRIMARY (in note c) specifically counts interviews as primary sources. If we take out the interview, the only two sentences that mention Caulfield are one that state the fact that Caulfield took over the club, and one that leads into the interview, and that counts as trivial coverage and as WP:ROUTINE coverage of a sports event (both of which disqualify the source from supporting notability). This isn't being picky just to be bureaucratic, either; primary sources (including interviews, even ones published in news sources, because there's limited – if any – factchecking done by the media organization) have (obviously) limited va pilue in contributing to the verifiability of an article, and one of the intentions behind the notability guidelines is to ensure that we have enough strong sourcing to back a decent article. I know it must be frustrating to be arguing here based on what feel like technicalities, but I think the Daily Record article does not factor into the notability calculus. Best, Kevin (alt of L235 · t · c) 01:40, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Though {{|L236}}, WP:Primary doesn't preclude all interview, it notes depending on context. Surely the context is that a transcribed interview is a primary source, yet when someone is interviewed as part of an article in a newspaper, that is a secondary source - see WP:Secondary. And it certainly isn't routine. Routine would be a paragraph about an appointment - not an in depth piece at the time of an appointment. Nfitz (talk) 06:20, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nfitz: WP:Secondary, which you mention, states that a secondary source contains an author's analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources (emphasis in original). I don't see how this interview does that. And my point about routine coverage is that if the interview portion was taken out of the article, the remaining portion would clearly be routine and trivial. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 17:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reading it again, that portion of the article is a bit more verbatim than I'd remembered. Still, there's a lot of borderline sources - and I don't think venerability is the actual issue here - more the bureaucratic barriers that inadvertently create systemic bias against those involved in women's soccer. Nfitz (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Red Scare (podcast)

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Not notable - not every tiny podcast needs a Wiki page. Yellow-billed Loon (talk) 06:22, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Has received coverage from The Telegraph, The Times, and The New York Times. Greyjoy^talk 06:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - it has been covered by notable publications and has thousands of listeners, according to its Patreon page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Socksinrain (talk • contribs) 09:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - it is able to attract notable guests such as Steve Bannon, Glenn Greenwald and Tulsi Gabbard. A small non-notable podcast would not attract a US presidential candidate as a guest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:D612:3E00:1533:707C:3195:34 (talk) 13:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - By the first two references pointed out by Greyjoy. The NYT reference is a passing mention, but the previous two are more than sufficient. Jlevi (talk) 17:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - page needs to be reworked and fleshed out more but the podcast is obviously notable, with significant coverage in reliable sources. This nomination was unquestionably made for the purposes of vandalism or disruption, OP seems to have a personal gripe with one of the hosts and therefore their concerns about "notability" cannot be taken seriously. If you check their history, they've nominated Dasha Nekrasova's page for deletion twice in less than two months (both times the page survived by significant margins), and they are now trying to get the podcast's page deleted. Pinchofhope (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Ivoclar Vivadent

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This dental company fails WP:CORP notability standards. All the sources in the article are trivial coverage and that's all that comes up in a Google search. Adamant1 (talk) 05:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I am unable to locate any significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, topic therefore fails GNG/WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 12:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.

Jansen, Norbert; Aligäuer, Robert, eds. (1978). Liechtenstein 1938–1978 (in German). Vaduz: Fürstliche Regierung. OCLC 883522421. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Liechtenstein State Library.
"8 Company profile: 8.19 Ivoclar Vivadent AG". Medical Devices Market Research Report. Markets and Markets. 2010-01-04. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Gale.
Willatt, Norriss (1970-06-25). "Tiny Liechtenstein Is Dental Giant". Albuquerque Journal. United Press International. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Newspapers.com.
Engelmeir, Robert L.; Phoenix, Rodney D. (2017-04-19). "The Development of Lingualized Occlusion". Journal of Prosthodontics. 28 (1). Wiley: e129 – e130. doi:10.1111/jopr.12624. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
"Worldmark Encyclopedia of Nations: Liechtenstein". Cengage. 2020-03-16. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Encyclopedia.com.
Pfanner, Eric (2008-02-24). "Called a tax haven, Liechtenstein cringes". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
Mitchener, Brandon (1995-06-23). "Liechtenstein Strikes a Balance Between Isolation and EU Integration". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
Wray, John (2009-03-22). "The Royal Wee". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2015-09-23. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
Nullis, Clare (1994-12-04). "Making molar hills out in the mountains". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Associated Press. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Newspapers.com.
De Vries, David (March 2013). "From Porcelain to Plastic: Politics and Business in a Relocated False Teeth Company, 1880s–1950". Enterprise & Society. 14 (1). Cambridge University Press: 163. doi:10.1093/es/khs029.
"Dental echo: international Monatsschrift fuer dental-industrie und -handel". Dental Echo. 38: 98. 1968. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
Ratliff, Steven T.; Barry, Kawsu (August 2018). "Characterization of Ivoclar Vivadent Dental Restoration Material for 137CS Retrospective Radiation Dosimetry". Health Physics. 115 (2): 212–220. doi:10.1097/HP.0000000000000806. PMID 29889699. Retrieved 2020-04-13.

Sources with quotes

Jansen, Norbert; Aligäuer, Robert, eds. (1978). Liechtenstein 1938–1978 (in German). Vaduz: Fürstliche Regierung. OCLC 883522421. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Liechtenstein State Library.
The book notes:

Die Ivoclar-Vivadent-Gruppe feierte ein dreifaches Jubiläum

. .. Was den ausgezeichneten Ruf der liechtensteinischen Dentalindustrie heute begründet, begann im Jahre 1923 — in Zürich. Dort wurde die Zahnfabrik Ramco damals gegründet. 10 Jahre später siedelte der Betrieb nach Liechtenstein über und brachte sich bis nach dem Zweiten Weltkrieg mehr schlecht als recht durch das Wirtschafts- leben.
Im Jahre 1948 übernahm der frühere Quandt-Manager Dr. Alfons Schneider, ein gebürtiger Schwabe aus Ellenberg (Ellwangen), die Restbestände der Ramco, . . . taufte das Unternehmen im Jahre 1951 in Ivoclar um und führte es innerhalb von 25 Jahren zu Weltbedeutung. Künstliche Zähne (aus Porzellan und Kunststoff) sind heute lediglich nur noch ein Teil des Ivoclar-Produktions- programms. Zusammen mit dem Vivadent-Zweig innerhalb der Gruppe, der im Jahre 1956 gegründet wurde und sich auf die Herstellung von Materialien für die konser- vierende und präventive Zahnheilkunde spezialisierte, bietet Ivoclar-Vivadent heute ein umfassendes, systematisch aufgebautes Programm der prothetischen, konservierenden und präventiven Zahnheilkunde an, das in 108 Ländern dieser Welt vertrieben wird. Die Ivoclar- Vivadent Gruppe beschäftigt rund 1500 Mitarbeiter, über 600 davon in den liechtensteinischen Produktions- stätten, dem Schaaner Mutterbetrieb und den Zweig- betrieben in Triesenberg und Schellenberg. Weitere, wichtigere Ivoclar-Produktionsbetriebe arbeiten heute in Deutschland, Frankreich. Italien, Österreich und Spanien.
Dreifachjubiläum
Dieses Jahr kann die Ivoclar-Vivadent ein dreifaches Jubiläum feiern: die Gründung der Firma vor 50 Jahren, ihre Ansiedlung in Liechtenstein vor 40 Jahren und das 25jährige Jubiläum Dr. Adolf Schneiders als Chef des Hauses
Liechtensteiner Volksblatt, 19. September 1973
From Google Translate:
The Ivoclar Vivadent Group celebrated a triple anniversary

. .. What established the excellent reputation of the Liechtenstein dental industry today began in 1923 - in Zurich. The Ramco tooth factory was founded at that time. 10 years later, the company moved to Liechtenstein and, after the Second World War, did more or less get through economic life.
In 1948, the former Quandt manager Dr. Alfons Schneider, a Swabian from Ellenberg (Ellwangen), the remaining stocks of Ramco,. . . christened the company Ivoclar in 1951 and made it world famous within 25 years. Artificial teeth (made of porcelain and plastic) are now only part of the Ivoclar production program. Together with the Vivadent branch within the group, which was founded in 1956 and specializes in the production of materials for conservative and preventive dentistry, Ivoclar-Vivadent now offers a comprehensive, systematically structured program of prosthetic, preservative and preventive Dentistry, which is distributed in 108 countries around the world. The Ivoclar-Vivadent Group employs around 1,500 people, over 600 of whom work in Liechtenstein's production facilities, the Schaan parent company and the branches in Triesenberg and Schellenberg. Other, more important Ivoclar production companies now work in Germany, France. Italy, Austria and Spain.
Triple anniversary
This year Ivoclar-Vivadent can celebrate a triple anniversary: the foundation of the company 50 years ago, its establishment in Liechtenstein 40 years ago and the 25th anniversary of Dr. Adolf Schneiders as head of the house
Liechtensteiner Volksblatt, 19. September 1973
"8 Company profile: 8.19 Ivoclar Vivadent AG". Medical Devices Market Research Report. Markets and Markets. 2010-01-04. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Gale.
The article notes:

8.19 IVOCLAR VIVADENT AG

Liechtenstein-Ivoclar Vivadent was founded in 1933 and named Ramco AG. The company was renamed as Ivoclar AG in 1951, and finally Ivoclar Vivadent AG in 2001. The company is a dental materials and equipment manufacturer that designs, develops, and sells a broad range of products for preventive, restorative, and prosthetic dentistry. The company recorded sales of $632.5 million in 2008. They have 50 U.S., 103 European, and 99 Japanese patents
They operate through its subsidiaries in Australia, Brazil, Spain, Canada, Germany, Japan, Italy, Mexico, France, New Zealand, Poland, the U.S., and the UK. It has manufacturing units in Liechtenstein, Austria, Italy, the U.S., and Philippines. The company's marketing and sales offices are located in China, Colombia, India, Turkey, Sweden, Singapore, and Russia. The subsidiaries of Ivoclar Vivadent are:
[names of subsidiaries in Italy, Mexico, New Zealand, Poland, US, UK, and Japan]
Ivoclar Vivadent's product categories include restorative therapy products, metal-ceramics, cementation products, equipment, all-ceramics, restoration products, teeth, endodontics, temporary, clinical accessories, prevention and care products, tooth whitening products or tooth jewellery, impression materials, metal supported veneering composites, materials for dentures, and alloys. The alloys available are implant alloys, crown and bridge alloys, ceramic alloys, BioUniversal. The company also has Tetric EvoCeram restorative material and Empress Direct.
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In March 2009, Ivoclar Vivadent and Straumann entered into a partnership agreement for development of esthetic solutions for tooth replacement and restoration. As per the agreement, Ivoclar Vivadent will supply the proprietary IPS e.max ceramic technology to Straumann for their implant and tooth borne dental prosthetic solutions. They also introduced 2 new versions of classic bluephase polymerization light called bluephase 20i and bluephase C8; and launched VivaPenand a universal primer named Monobond Plus to create a reliable bond to all restorative materials, and Multilink Implant, an adhesive luting composite.
Willatt, Norriss (1970-06-25). "Tiny Liechtenstein Is Dental Giant". Albuquerque Journal. United Press International. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Newspapers.com.
This link is a copy of the same article (but truncated) in The Indianapolis Star and provides information about the author and the wire service, which the Albuquerque Journal link does not provide.
The article notes:

And one of its local industries, the Ivoclar-Vivadent of companies, has achieved a sensational prominence in its own field.
It is the largest producer of acrylic plastic teeth in the world, and the second largest of artificial teeth made from the other principal raw material, porcelain. Only the Dentists Supply Co. in the United States outranks it. Ivoclar-Vivant has the largest tooth factory in all Europe. Output is about 50 million teeth a year.
The founding firm, Zahn-fabrik Ramco AG, moved from Zurich to Schaan, just down the road from the principality's capital of Vaduz. This was acquired as a going concern in 1951 by the present owners, Ivoclar, a private concern which is owned outside the principality; it declined to say by whom, or where. The new owners, in the course of a mere 20 years, have raised it to its present pre-eminent position in the world of artificial teeth, and related products of dentistry.
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Two important breakthroughts have contributed most to this remarkable success story. In the first place, Ivoclar was a pioneer in the adaptation of acrylic resin to tooth fabrication, to supplement the traditional porcelain product. This innovation, about 20 years ago, has proved immensely popular both with dentists and their clients.
Engelmeir, Robert L.; Phoenix, Rodney D. (2017-04-19). "The Development of Lingualized Occlusion". Journal of Prosthodontics. 28 (1). Wiley: e129 – e130. doi:10.1111/jopr.12624. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
The article notes:

Ivoclar/Vivadent

Ivoclar AG was originally founded in 1933 as the Ramco AG (tooth factory) of Schaan, Liechtenstein. Ramco was renamed Ivoclar in 1951, and in 1979, Ivoclar U.S.A. was established in San Marcos, CA. By 1987, Ivoclar AG, Williams Gold Refining Company of Buffalo, and Vivadent of Schaan, Liechtenstein had merged to form Ivoclar of North America, Incorporated, headquartered in Amherst, NY. The corporate name was changed to Ivoclar Vivadent, Incorporated in 2001.⁵⁸
Arguably, Ivoclar manufactured some of the most esthetic teeth of the late 20th century. Through the end of the century they offered their “Orthotyp” cross-linked acrylic and porcelain posteriors in three semi-anatomic configurations. The “N” molds were meant for a normal (Angles Class I) bite. They had a cusp angle near 20°. The “T” molds were intended for patients with a “deep bite.” The cusps were steeper to accommodate the increased incisal guidance and vertical overlap. “K” molds were designed for use in cross-bite situations. Around the turn of the 21st century, Ivoclar introduced three new lines of teeth. The “Orthoplane” molds were very esthetic, 0° posteriors with excellent sluiceways. “Ortholingual” molds were specifically designed for a lingualized occlusion. Their maxillary lingual functional cusps were exaggerated and articulated in mandibular fossae with 15° inclines. The “Postaris” anatomical teeth had 33° cuspal inclines. All three new mold lines were offered in double cross-linked polymethylmethacrylate. Shortly after the introduction of the Orthoplane and Ortholingual molds, Ivoclar embarked on an aggressive marketing campaign centered on complete denture esthetics, occlusion, and wear resistance. They revised and greatly simplified their mold guide, which only offered 0° Orthoplane, 33° Postaris, 15° Ortholingual, and new 22° Orthotyp semi-anatomic posteriors^4,59 (Fig 37). The company recommended that a lingualized occlusion be developed by setting maxillary and mandibular Ortholingual teeth or by setting maxillary Ortholingual teeth against mandibular Orthoplane teeth.
"Worldmark Encyclopedia of Nations: Liechtenstein". Cengage. 2020-03-16. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Encyclopedia.com.
The article notes:

Among the most important domestic manufacturers are the Hilti Corporation, a large international supplier of rail anchors and anchor installation services to the rail transport industry, and electrical equipment; Ivoclar-Vivadent, developer and distributor of well-regarded products for prosthetic, restorative, and preventive dentistry; Balzers-Bal-Tec AG, manufacturers of electron microscopy preparation products for biological specimens; Fancoldi R.T., gem industry specialists, producing colored diamonds; and Aqualine, a major Austrian Alps mineral water bottling company.
Pfanner, Eric (2008-02-24). "Called a tax haven, Liechtenstein cringes". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
The article notes:

Liechtenstein has large industrial companies like Hilti, a maker of power tools, Hilcona, a provider of microwavable meals, and Ivoclar Vivadent, the world's largest manufacturer of false teeth.
Mitchener, Brandon (1995-06-23). "Liechtenstein Strikes a Balance Between Isolation and EU Integration". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
The article notes:

Among the principality's better-known manufacturers are Hilti AG, which makes nails, staples and glues for use in construction; Ivoclar, a manufacturer of dentures; and Balzers AG, a specialist in vacuum technology and ultra-thin coatings used in optics and electronics.
Wray, John (2009-03-22). "The Royal Wee". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2015-09-23. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
The article notes:

Over the course of my stay, I found myself keeping a mental list of other possible Liechtensteinian claims to fame: No. 1 in cowbells (every cow on every mountain meadow seems to have one, making it surprisingly noisy above the tree line), and in the production of dental ceramics (Ivoclar Vivadent, in the industrial region of Schaan, is the world’s top producer).
Nullis, Clare (1994-12-04). "Making molar hills out in the mountains". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Associated Press. Archived from the original on 2020-04-13. Retrieved 2020-04-13 – via Newspapers.com.
The article notes:

Schaan, Liechtenstein — Tucked in a valley surrounded by majestic, snow-capped mountains is a dentist's dream.
There are mounds of amalgams, alloys, bleachers, colorants, cavity cleaners, inlays, onlays — and about 60 million teeth.
All of it rolls off the production lines of Ivoclar-Vivadent, which is a major player in the $4 billion global market for dentistry supplies.
The company, whose name is derived from "clear ivory," had sales of $400 million last year. It is an example of highly specialized businesses that have made tiny Liechtenstein one of the world's most industrialized nations.
De Vries, David (March 2013). "From Porcelain to Plastic: Politics and Business in a Relocated False Teeth Company, 1880s–1950". Enterprise & Society. 14 (1). Cambridge University Press: 163. doi:10.1093/es/khs029.
The article notes:

Palestine's greatest competitor in Europe was Zahnfabrik Ramsperger & Co. AG established in Zurich in 1923 and turned in 1933 into RAMCO AG, based in Schaan, Lichtenstein (later turned into Ivoclar Vivadent AG). See Blevi and Sween, Complete Book of Beauty, 200.
Blevi, Viktor, and Gretchen Sween. Complete Book of Beauty. New York: Avon Books, 1993.
"Dental echo: international Monatsschrift fuer dental-industrie und -handel". Dental Echo. 38: 98. 1968. Retrieved 2020-04-13.
The article notes:

Portrait of a company Ivoclar Inc.

THE BEGINNING: 1923 Ramsberger & Co., Zurich Situated in Schaan, Prinzipality of Liechtenstein, Ivoclar originated in Ramsberger & Co. of Zurich, which was founded 25 years ago, and moved to Schaan as "Ramco AG" in 1933. In 1951 the company was registered as " IVOCLAR AG" — as in the years before the enterprise continued the production of artificial teeth. A close co-operation with the American Williams-Justi Corporation, Buffalo, Philadelphia, (which is well known in the dental market of North and South America) was established in the early 1950's. The outcome of this association has been beneficial for both Ivoclar and Williams-Justi. The broadening and expansion of SR range of acrylic products can be attributed to Ivoclar Schaan and its subsidiaries.
Ratliff, Steven T.; Barry, Kawsu (August 2018). "Characterization of Ivoclar Vivadent Dental Restoration Material for 137CS Retrospective Radiation Dosimetry". Health Physics. 115 (2): 212–220. doi:10.1097/HP.0000000000000806. PMID 29889699. Retrieved 2020-04-13.

There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Ivoclar Vivadent to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

Cunard (talk) 09:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A 1970 article published by United Press International said, "It is the largest producer of acrylic plastic teeth in the world, and the second largest of artificial teeth made from the other principal raw material, porcelain. Only the Dentists Supply Co. in the United States outranks it. Ivoclar-Vivant has the largest tooth factory in all Europe. Output is about 50 million teeth a year."
Ivoclar Vivadent received a page of coverage in the 1978 book Liechtenstein 1938–1978.
A 1994 article in the Associated Press said Ivoclar Vivadent is "a major player in the $4 billion global market for dentistry supplies", had sales of $400 million in 1993, and is "an example of highly specialized businesses that have made tiny Liechtenstein one of the world's most industrialized nations".
In 2008, The New York Times called Ivoclar Vivadent "the world's largest manufacturer of false teeth". A 2009 article in The New York Times said "in the production of dental ceramics (Ivoclar Vivadent, in the industrial region of Schaan, is the world’s top producer)".
A 2017 article in the Journal of Prosthodontics said, "Arguably, Ivoclar manufactured some of the most esthetic teeth of the late 20th century."
The "Liechtenstein" entry of the Worldmark Encyclopedia of Nations book published by Cengage said in Liechtenstein, "Among the most important domestic manufacturers are Hilti Corporation ...; Ivoclar-Vivadent, developer and distributor of well-regarded products for prosthetic, restorative, and preventive dentistry; ..."
Cunard (talk) 09:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep per the additional sources found by Cunard showing that the article meets WP:GNG/WP:NCORP. MarkZusab (talk) 02:15, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep while the article in its current form needs significant improvements and additional sourcing, there do seem to be sources (above, and in my own search) showing the company meets WP:GNG. Mukedits (talk) 03:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 15:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dentsply Sirona

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This dental company fails WP:NCORP notability standards. All the sources in the article are primary and trivial. Plus, nothing comes up in a Google search about them except for trivial stuff like stock price news. Adamant1 (talk) 05:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Has reliable sources and significant coverage. It cites articles like Globe Newswire, Wall Street Journal, and New York Times. Koridas (Speak) 04:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Has reliable sources, significant coverage and a lengthy history. Wall Street Journal, and New York Times are independent enough. NEW i added citations from British Dental Journal, US National Library of Medicine, Iranian Endotonic Journal. The company provides an essential service, it was part of the Nasdaq 100 and likely will be AGAIN Grmike (talk) 00:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)GRMIKE[reply]

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Keep - the word DENTSPLY only refers to this company; it gives nearly 5 MILLION results in google. There are citations given in the article from dental medical journals. the company has even opened its own dental school with both a facility and an online presence. The dental industry doesn't generate as much excitement as other industries, that doesn't make it less relevant. notability should not even be a question given that Dentsply is one of if not the biggest dental companies in the USA. independent sources include Wall Street Journal, New York Times, the British Dental Journal, US National Library of Medicine, Iranian Endotonic Journal. The company provides an essential service, it was part of the Nasdaq 100 and likely will be again.Grmike (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2020 (UTC)grmike[reply]
Speedy keep. The subject is a very well-known dental company that is strongly covered by reliable sources, even more of which have been added since nomination. Woerich (talk) 02:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Abolishment of the School Boards

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The article would benefit from a consensus as to whether or not it's a WP:NOTNEWS violation. I dream of horses ^{(talk) (contribs)} _{Remember to {{ping}} me after replying off my talk page} 04:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete It's a Ctrl+C/V of the same section in Education in Quebec#Abolishment of the school boards, suggesting this is some kind of WP:CFORK that really needs to be rewritten in a much more neutral manner. Nate • (chatter) 09:43, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per above. Material already exists in the other article, there’s no reason for a separate article at all, let alone the current offering. Neiltonks (talk) 22:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, it's notable information but it belongs as a section in Education in Quebec, where it already exists word-for-word, lo and behold. PK T(alk) 14:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I can imagine a path to a standalone article about this — but it would need to be written and titled much more neutrally than this (the actual objective name of the legislation is the correct title for any article about a piece of legislation, dudes!), and include a lot more detail supported by a lot more than just four footnotes. Simply cutting and pasting the existing content verbatim from another article that already contains it, and then walking away without making any discernible effort to expand it any further, is not the path to spinning this out as a standalone topic. Bearcat (talk) 01:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Watchara Kaewlamun

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A check of WP:BEFORE sees no result in English with the Thai language only showing up five results, none of them possibly be suitable for WP:GNG. HawkAussie (talk) 02:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails GNG comprehensively. Giant Snowman 14:13, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-notable footballer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Govvy (talk) 22:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cam Folker

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Fails WP:GNG and no sources other than the one in the article can be found. PotentPotables (talk) 02:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete one local newspaper article is not enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. The content is unclear and has not been written in a clear tone. The content completely relies upon a single source and lack reliable sources. Abishe (talk) 15:58, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the tone and formatting of the article are way off. Only one source and its a local interest story. Fails WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT, WP:GNG. I can't even. Bearian (talk) 01:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Insect fighting. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 22:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese Bug Fights

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This article does not meet notability guidelines, as very few sources link to it. MiasmaEternal^TALK 01:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge into insect fighting which is a more general treatment which could use some fleshing out. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. WP:SNOW. postdlf (talk) 20:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of awards and nominations received by Keisha

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List of awards and nominations for a non-notable porn performer deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keisha (actress). This content may be a re-creation of content deleted at Keisha (actress). Even if it isn't, the consensus at the AfD discussion was that the list lacked independent sources to establish notability. No new facts have emerged in the 3 months since then. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete If the subject isn't notable enough for their own wiki page, then they sure aren't notable enough for a separate awards page. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - if the performer isn't notable then this certainly isn't. Crossroads ^-talk- 03:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Subject was recently deleted, so logically this should be too. Ajf773 (talk) 09:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 14:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per nom. What's the point on keeping the list article relating to a person even when the person herself doesn't pass WP:GNG. Abishe (talk) 15:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per Sulfurboy. Seems incongruous to have an awards page for an individual about whom we lack an article, to say the least. — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 16:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Snow delete 8 delete !votes, including mine and the nominator's, over the course of less than a day. Much faster than if it had been PROD'd. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 20:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Heineken N.V.#Beer brands. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 19:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dačický

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No evidence this product passes WP:NCOMPANY/GNG. BEFORE does not show anything but mentions in passing. No valid redirect/merge target (not mentioned in any article outside see also section; no referenced content to merge, redirect to Heineken goes against WP:R#ASTONISH). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 00:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - This article does not pass WP:PRODUCT as the only sources are passing mentions, which is against WP:TRIVIALMENTION. 🌺Kori🌺 - (@) 04:24, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Merge~~ to Heineken_N.V.#Beer_brands - adding a sentence to that short section, and redirecting there, wouldn't be too astonishing? GirthSummit _(blether) 12:47, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, though I wouldn't object to a redirect to Heineken_N.V.#Beer_brands with a one-sentence note at the target. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 16:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominators reasons. Psychologist Guy (talk) 02:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
redirect Just a note to say that I've boldly added a sentence to the Heineken N.V. article - this title could be redirected there painlessly now. GirthSummit _(blether) 14:49, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 19:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sonny Arguinzoni

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Relies almost exclusively on primary sources. The reference claimed to be from Yahoo Finance is actually a press release ([37]). Upon searching ([38]), any other references are also either press releases or very brief mentions. No indication of notability. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete there was a fairly in depth piece in the LA Times, but I could not find any other non-primary sources like it. TheAwesome Hwyh 00:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, discussed at sufficient length in both the article mentioned above and also in third party books:here, here, and here. So he meets GNG.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 22:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the book sources shown above and the LA Times piece which is particularly convincing because it includes criticism of the subject which clearly indicates its independence, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:23, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. This article could use a great deal of cleanup, but the book sources look legit. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 16:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- Far from a good article. However BLP issues merely need some sources, even if they are no independent ones. Victory Outreach is certainly a notable Christina ministry. Since we do not have an article on it, having one on the founder will have to serve. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:59, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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