Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce Frisko (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Guy (Help!) 14:58, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce Frisko

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Article about local news anchor which does not meet WP:GNG or WP:JOURNALIST. The single source does not seem to function at time of this writing to allow for verification. Google news searches bring up no hits with significant coverage. Article was restored at Deletion Review as a contested soft delete. - McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 11:25, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails GNG —Мандичка^YO 😜 13:06, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Now that it has been undeleted I am working on adding additional information and sources. The original article needed work, and the newscasts he anchors & produces are for 1/4 of Canada under CTV Atlantic. I'm on a mobile device, I could use some regional help.Lady Noremon (talk) 02:08, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I took another look at this - I'm willing to reconsider my position but need the sources to do so. This is pretty funny, though unfortunately a primary source, but I'm guessing he is one of those local anchors who develop cult-like status as a regional icon/mascot. We need a few articles about him though to support this. —Мандичка^YO 😜 07:45, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Before I get into the substance of the article in its current form, I want to point out that the deletion review was at least partially based on a false premise, namely that anybody involved in the discussion ever said anything at all, anywhere at all, about how "little known" he is. The problem was that the article, as written, was not making a substantive claim of notability that would satisfy WP:JOURNALIST, nor was it citing any reliable source coverage — it was essentially just a thinly veiled rewrite of his profile on CTV Atlantic's own website, but slightly rewriting a primary source verification of the journalist's existence without any independent reliable source verification is never how a journalist (regardless of medium, or level of prominence) actually gets a Wikipedia article. Nobody involved in the discussion ever cast a single solitary aspersion on his basic worth as a person — the problem was the quality of the article in its as written form, not anybody's opinion of him as a person.
That said, while this version of the article is a lot longer than the original one was, I've had to strip almost every single one of Lady Noremon's new "references" as primary (CTV's own video of its own newscasts, Bell Media's own press releases about itself, his involvement in a charity event sourced only to that charity's own website) or unreliable (blogspot) sources — so the article is still not referenced enough to claim a WP:GNG pass, and two of the three references that are left are still covering insubstantial achievements (a best hair award and a social media challenge which forced a coworker to get a tattoo of his face) which do not satisfy WP:JOURNALIST. I'm willing to revisit this if the sourcing and substance can be improved from where they're sitting right now, but in its current form any real reasons why he should actually have a Wikipedia article still aren't being properly demonstrated by this version of the article. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 17:18, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - From my talk page: "I have not done any editing here besides this and spelling correction in 7-ish years and this was my first time with references. I really was just trying to add more since that was the problem stated. It was a rushed job done over 2 days from a mobile device, and I apologise [Though the CTV Atlantic page was already linked before I edited it]. Someone else will have to deal with the article or such; I am not cut-out for any of this.". — Preceding undated comment added 01:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

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