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Don't you write about Indian sports men — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.241.192.161 (talk) 18:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't as it happens, because I know nothing about them. Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Everything is Going to be Alright, Martin Creed, 2015.

Thank you for all your edits and contributions this year. I wish you a happy holiday and good health!
Possibly (talk)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year 2021
I hope your New Year holiday is enjoyable and the coming year is much better than the one we are leaving behind.
Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk

Kind request for second review :)

SysCAD

Thanks for looking over Draft:SysCAD - I have updated the reference to the original article on the company's page rather than LinkedIn. Any other advice on how to proceed with having this published would be greatly appreciated.

Where is the source here?

Review Draft:Jackson Groves

Hello,

thank you for reviewing Draft:Jackson Groves. I appreciate your contributions to WP. Due to the low sources, it got declined by you and after reading to your suggestions i have come up with the new references.

I request you to please review it again. Thank you. Mohirfan03 (talk) 00:05, 13 February 2021 (IST)

Unifimoney

Review: Draft Oxlade (singer)

Hello Theroadislong, a draft I wrote has been declined; firstly because it was not notable notjustyet and when I was able to prove it meets all guidelines. It was declined by the same editor and it was tagged COI. The draft Oxlade, meets all guidelines as followed; WP:GNG, WP:Band and also WP:Anybio, in addition to this. He’s notability wasn’t inherited because of his affiliation with Davido or Drake for sharing his breakthrough song “Away”.

I read above the review section on your talk page, seeing another editor having similar issues because of the same editor. I will gladly declare COI because I’m interested in the subject and not because I have any financial stake in promoting a topic. The draft clearly is written in WP:NPOV, with no promotional information or hype, but everything is verified from a reliable source. I checked the editor contributions and I found your page, I need your help in verifying this claims and also reviewing the draft. Like I said above, I will declare COI in WP:Goodfaith to please the editor.--JudeJnr (talk) 07:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You have re-submitted without any improvement, that is just disruptive, you haven't "proved" the topic is notable, please suggest which part of WP:NMUSICIAN they pass, sources need to be in-depth not mere listings or passing mentions. Theroadislong (talk) 10:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

JudeJnr It's not a conflict of interest to merely be interested in a topic. If you have some sort of association with the topic, then it is a conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 10:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Theroadislong, 8 and 10 of wp:NMUSICIAN, performed at ART X Lagos [1] and nominated at The Headies [2]. In addition to this, nominations are mere listings but the source is not mere listings.--JudeJnr (talk) 10:49, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

331dot, that means I should remove the COI then?.--JudeJnr (talk) 10:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you have no association with a topic, it is not a conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 10:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

331dot, Thanks for helping me understand, COI better.--JudeJnr (talk) 11:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the ad from the article "Radio REDBOX"

I removed the ad, please remove the quick delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikitasmirnovva (talk • contribs) 11:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid it still reads as nothing more than an advert. Theroadislong (talk) 11:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikitasmirnovva (talk • contribs) 12:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Horizon draft

Dear Theroadislong, you kindly took the time to review my article. After replying to your message regarding the suspected advertising of the project (which is not the case), could you please advise on whether I am allowed to go ahead, rewrite and improve the references? Thank you BettinaGsott (talk) 14:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:New Horizon Art Car Sure you can! Theroadislong (talk) 14:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Muntadher Saleh draft

Hello

I wanted to talk to you about Muntadher Saleh , who apparently has good authority control panel how do you think about the notability on regard on the article because I didn't wrote it I just added the authority control and the external resources --Mdpx (talk) 16:32, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I don't understand what you are asking me? Theroadislong (talk) 16:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

about the Draft article you just declined about Muntadher Saleh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdpx (talk • contribs) 16:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I declined the draft because of poor sourcing, IMDb and Goodreads are not reliable and neither is Wkiart. You have added a number of external links, theses might be better used as sources, see WP:REFB for help with formatting sources correctly, but be advised there is zero evidence that Draft:Muntadher Saleh is notable. Theroadislong (talk) 16:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

oh I thought he is notable because he has these authority control which are really reliable source of only the people with notability especially VIAF

Authority control has nothing to do with notability? Theroadislong (talk) 18:13, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know that could you tell me some strong source that you relay on please like a list or something and thank you for your time --Mdpx (talk) 18:15, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Genvieve de Gaulle

I was merely trying to link a page that already exists and so you have, presumaly, authenticated, to that page, using infomration that is already published on the French Wikipediea. HOwever, I have not axe to grind so someone else can make that link or leave it unlinked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnastasiaSeth (talk • contribs) 17:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The problem was that your edit to Charles de Gaulle was unsourced. Theroadislong (talk) 17:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

what edits do you suggest for the article you denied?

HI there, noticed you rejected our page. Wondering what about it you thought wasnt apt for publishing? was it too opinion based?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conarco20 (talk • contribs) 10:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

e-flux draft

Hi there, many thanks for your helpful comments about the sources list in Draft:e-flux. I've gone through and replaced the links to their page with reliable sources. Would you mind taking another look, please? Much appreciate your time! Thanks, Pizzarat222 (talk) 14:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong, I hope you are well! I wanted to follow up to check the status of this draft I was editing. Please let me know if you're able to take another look. I think e-flux is a really valuable resource for students (like myself), so I hope the page can get back up soon. Thanks!Pizzarat222 (talk) 16:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmission

Hi! I resubmitted my entry, hope you will have the time to re-read it. I tried to take out whatever points seemed subjective and replaced the sources (aside for the links to the IMDB profiles of some artists and movies that do not have Wikipedia pages of their own). Please let me know what else I can change, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nafvt1999 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are being paid to edit, do your client a favour and spend at least a few weeks learning how Wikipedia works, your draft Draft:The IdeaFirst Company is extremely promotional and stuffed with external links to IMDb, it is unlikely to be accepted any time soon. Theroadislong (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Daniels College of Business

I work for the University and we have been trying to update this page as it has not been updated for years. The history is out of date, the rankings are and everything else I edited. I'm not sure what else to do as the first time we tried we were told we had to discloses that they have been paid, now that we have we still can't make edits.

Danielsatdu (talk) 18:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Like any other editor who has a conflict of interest you need to suggest your changes on the talk page using the format Please add X using reliable independent source Y for each fact you want added. The article does not belong to the college and Wikipedia is not interested in promoting you, we only report on what the independent sources have written about the college. Theroadislong (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Independent, reliable sources on Draft:Will Mancini

You left the comment:

zero independent reliable sources?

There are actually two independent, reliable sources referenced in Draft:Will Mancini: Baptist Press (note 3) and Outreach Magazine (note 4).

Cory Hartman 23:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Cory hartman: That is still pretty close to zero: the other 32 sources are by the article subject. There's no way this will be published with a ratio like that. The opposite (2 self-published and 32 independent sources) is more like what we are looking for. --- Possibly (talk) 23:50, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your review

Thanks for your review for Draft:Shochiku Studio. I updated the reference etc, so please kindly review it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hama takashi (talk • contribs) 04:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Paper.io Probe

Bit of confusion with this. There's a bunch of these. Paper.io draft is redirect, and Paper.io 2 draft is too. Paper.io 2 is currently in the paper.io article. Doesn't work great, but the paper.io 1 article already has a speedy deletion since it was originaly a voodoo redirect. Maybe the name could say series, or Paper.io 2 could have its own article. Paper.io N.R. was a new version, now a redirect. There were a bunch of changes to make the end. Don't worry, I am adding stuff like references. 109.158.15.212 (talk) 10:44, 13 March 2021 (UTC) 2A00:23C7:5A9C:3F01:11E5:5B74:804F:39F9 (talk) 11:40, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Moti Ram Arya School

→ Why is photo removed from page citing that it is a copyright violation where as it was directly sourced from school website.--101.0.41.115 (talk) 19:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because clearly the copyright belongs to the school!!! Theroadislong (talk) 21:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Review: Draft:Rocket_Science_(company)

Hello and thank you for the feedback on the Rocket Science page. I have correctly disclosed my relationship. I based the draft on other pages on Wikipedia for similar companies eg. Embankment Films, HanWay Films and FilmNation, using layout, grammar and how the films they represent are described. Should I give up? Or go to the Talk page to try and resolve? Thanks for your time and help. Jonathan — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonoLynch-Staunton (talk • contribs) 09:57, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

hello

hello @Theroadislong please kindly help approve my work, I will keep adjusting it with time. i really need to meet up with my employers deadline. Thanks with kind regards. (talk 10:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

I am not being paid

My employer is not paying me for this article, in fact I am doing this because some people offered to do it for a certain fee and I know I can do it on wikipedia freely, What I meant in my statement is the duration given by the supposed consultant as passed and the article hasn't been approved so i'm seen somewhat as incompetent. I HAVENT COLLECTED I DIME OR HOPING TO, THIS IS A CONTRIBUTION FOR THE LOVE OF IT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olumuyi007 (talk • contribs) 11:56, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that as an employee of the company, Wikipedia deems you to be a paid editor and you will need to make the mandatory disclosure on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 12:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kristian Smith

Hi Theroadislong,

Thanks for reviewing my page on Kristian Smith. Your last comment states that the references don't reference Kristian Smith. A good amount of them do. Obviously it will only be the career page that has pertinent references. Institutions like University aren't able to publish full alumni lists. I have also added imdb link for Kristian Smith which carries all of Kristian's credits and is verified against programmes, so hopefully is fully credible. I've also attached press articles referencing Kristian. And a link to his company website. I hope that answers your concerns.

All best wishes

Bimble — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bimblebuster (talk • contribs) 21:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bimblebuster No I'm afraid that the sources need to cover him in-depth with significant coverage and IMDb is NOT a reliable source and his own website is not independent so of no use. Theroadislong (talk) 22:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Submission review

Thanks for your reply, theroadislong. Are you able to advise what references would qualify and I'll add those in. I did add independent press articles. Should I add more of those? Thanks for reviewing. All best wishes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bimblebuster (talk • contribs) 22:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Entry declined

 Hello,
  The draft I wrote has been declined for wikipedia in English, but it has been existing in French (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franck_Michelin) and Japanese (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/フランク・ミシュラン) for several years. Is there any clear reason?
 Best regards
       Barjoland11 (talk) 11:06, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Different countries have very different notability guidelines? Theroadislong (talk) 19:05, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy St. Patrick's Day

Happy St. Patrick's Day!
I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations.
Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk

A barnstar for you!

		The Articles for Creation Barnstar
		Stole my review Noah ^💬 15:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Paid Editing

Hello Theroadislong. I appreciate your mail, but first and foremost, I wasn't compensated now nor will I be paid in the future either directly or indirectly for editing this article. I don't know the Monarch and I have never met him, his neutral views and natural contribution to national discourse really attracted him to me and I think he is line with my vision of bringing our local communities and leaders closer to the global world to digitize and archive their history...this is huge to be paid for, it can only be done via interest and for posterity.

I am an African Culture and Heritage enthusiast, that aim at bringing our local African communities and their leaders closer to the global world through archiving their history and resourcefulness via digitizing via web presence for future generation, research and for other important things.

This is a means of keeping our local contents safe in which I think wikipedia should be a better way of achieving this. Majority of African culture and and traditions are going into extinct due to the fact that nobody cares to archive them ….for the future generation, I now take it upon myself to kick it, to try my best for others to emulate.

Theroadislong, if the structure of my article give the impression that it is a paid one, I am using this medium to reiterate that my notion for developing this article is strongly misconstrued, I am not paid to do this and am not in the future looking for compensation from anybody for doing this, am doing this for posterity sake based on my interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdioOki (talk • contribs) 23:34, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Paid Editing

Paid editing

Hello Theroadislong. I appreciate your mail, but first and foremost, I wasn't compensated now nor will I be paid in the future either directly or indirectly for editing this article. I don't know the Monarch and I have never met him, his neutral views and natural contribution to national discourse really attracted him to me and I think he is line with my vision of bringing our local communities and leaders closer to the global world to digitize and archive their history...this is huge to be paid for, it can only be done via interest and for posterity. I am an African Culture and Heritage enthusiast, that aim at bringing our local African communities and their leaders closer to the global world through archiving their history and resourcefulness via digitizing via web presence for future generation, research and for other important things. This is a means of keeping our local contents safe in which I think wikipedia should be a better way of achieving this. Majority of African culture and and traditions are going into extinct due to the fact that nobody cares to archive them ….for the future generation, I now take it upon myself to kick it, to try my best for others to emulate.

Theroadislong, if the structure of my article give the impression that it is a paid one, I am using this medium to reiterate that my notion for developing this article is strongly misconstrued, I am not paid to do this and am not in the future looking for compensation from anybody for doing this, am doing this for posterity sake based on my interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.187.42.68 (talk) 23:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Mother Bird (sculpture)

Please completely remove Draft:Mother Bird (sculpture) article from Wikipedia as it's creator User:Akshat2103 is globally banned 🚫 for very very excessive trolling, So it is sure that the Draft is not going to have any developement in future.

And as I see that you have rejected it so please remove it as it is not going to corrected now after the creator got banned.

Checkout this link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mother_Bird_(sculpture)#

110.235.230.229 (talk) 12:38, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment regarding my draft---need help!

"this will need re-writing in a dry neutral, encyclopedic tone before being submitted for review." I really thought I had submitted my draft appropriately with neutral language. Please advise on how I can improve it and how I will know that it has been submitted properly and is under review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vegan4theAnimals (talk • contribs) 13:30, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You need to click the large blue button that reads "Submit the draft for review!" non neutral tone includes "It was founded on the philosophy that meeting the animals who society views as mere commodities and sharing their individual stories on tours and through outreach and education is a powerful way to change the perception of farmed animals as food to individuals with unique personalities and desires." which is basically a mission statement, (not encouraged) "The sanctuary attracted scores of volunteers" "a 336 acre historic farm" "a popular local attraction." other content is just plain advertising and has no place in an encyclopaedia article. Do you have any conflict of interest to declare I wonder? Theroadislong (talk) 13:38, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would have, too

In normal circumstances I would AfD or CSD that on sight, but I see no harm in the enterprse and am interested in the (inevitabe?) outcome. I shall not participate in the discussion. Fiddle Faddle 18:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

requesting advice about Flajolet Prize webpage

Theroadislong, I would love to (please) request your help. I maintain the webpage for the international Analysis of Algorithms AofA scientific community. (I am a Statistics Professor at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana.) In full humility, this is the first time that I built a draft of a Wikipedia page.

For the last 8 years, the AofA community has been awarding the Flajolet Prize in memory of Philippe Flajolet, who was the scientific leader of this entire research community. He had more than 200 research publications and was well known and loved in this community.

The closest prize to this one is the Knuth Prize, which has a Wikipedia page and lists the recipients. Although the Flajolet Prize is newer (only 8 years old), the recipients are very distinguished in their careers.

The Steering Committee for this scientific community asked me to draft a Wikipedia page about this scientific prize. It is not for my self-promotion. (I am not famous and I am unlikely to ever win this prize!) I am simply documenting the scientific award on behalf of this community.

I sent some emails to the Steering Committee and also on the community's Slack channel, to seek feedback and guidance during the review process.

I realize that I made one rookie mistake when I submitted the page, namely, I accidentally put a "Channel" link for Flajolet and I realize now that he does not have a channel. I apologize for this.

Can you please provide some advice for me? I would welcome your help. Thank you very much.

P.S. My role in the Analysis of Algorithms community is NOT a paid role. The entire community are only scientists. There are no membership fees or paid officers or anything like that. We are all just scientists who work in a very active research community. We want to document the recipients of the Flajolet Prize now that this community has given the award 4 times and is preparing to make the 5th award.

OK, I added the website for the international Analysis of Algorithms community, and I also added a new section that explains that this award is comparable to the Knuth Prize.

In terms of the content given in this Wikipedia article, just FYI, there is more content on this new Wikipedia page than on the Knuth Prize webpage.

The user Possibly (very kindly) removed the large block description (ok with me), and I added (instead) the description about the topics covered by the award. I sent Possibly a thank you note, for helping to edit this page.

Sincerely, Mark Daniel Ward, Ph.D.

MDW333 (talk) 15:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You say " I am simply documenting the scientific award on behalf of this community."

I think that you have a common misunderstanding as to the purpose of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a place for organisations to tell the world about themselves or their awards, like social media or their own website is. This is an encyclopedia, and as an an encyclopedia Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a subject, showing how it meets WP:GNG. You also need to declare your conflict of interest on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 17:08, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Theroadislong (talk) Thanks for asking! I want to clarify this issue. I don't give the award, and I am not on the selection committee, and it does not come from my university. In fact, I am not involved in picking the recipient at all. I'm just a professor who does research in a large community of scientists from many universities. We are not paid and it is not part of any of my official duties. This is just an scientific research area that happens to give a prize to some scientists (from a scientific society; not from me). I'm just starting the documentation about this award, but I am guessing that others who work in this research area will chime in too, making edits once the page is available. Indeed, I sent a broad email in the community, to seek feedback about the page. It's not about me, and I'm not on the organizing committee, and I don't pick the award winner or anything like that. My only involvement is helping to maintain a webpage where some events from this community are organized. I just added a note about this on my user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MDW333 I want to emphasize that this award is also NOT given by Purdue University. I am just a professor who is interested in this topic. I believe that I am (to use your phrasing) an INDEPENDENT RELIABLE SOURCE. I've never been on the selection committee for this award, and I'm not getting nominated for it, or anything like that. I just help this large research community to document some of the activities in the community, e.g., editorial work and reviews and things like that, and I don't get paid for it.

You are clearly NOT an independent or reliable source, if as you say you are helping this large research community to document some of the activities, then you are not independent of it, and to be reliable sources need to be published. Theroadislong (talk) 18:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for asking about this point Theroadislong. I appreciate your question about this. If you look at the places where the award is given, and where the international lecture occurs, you will see that it has been given in Paris, France, and in Krakow, Poland, and in Uppsala, Sweden. This is not a Purdue award. I added a note to state that I am a faculty member, but I do not get paid for any of this work in this research. I'm just a scientist who works in this area. I'm not getting paid for this, and the award does not come from my university, and it is my scientific area of expertise. For comparison (I think) all pages about mathematics and computer science activities will be edited by people who work in those areas. Correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDW333 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

talk thank you for your additional comments this morning about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Flajolet_Lecture_Prize You kindly mentioned that the sources are primary but you said that they are not independent. I am a scientist in this area but I am just documenting a prize that is awarded in this scientific area. I will emphasize again that I am not on the selection committee for the prize, and it has been given since 2014 in this scientific area of research. The references that I added are just documenting the conferences where the prize is awarded.

For comparison, let's take a look at this prize: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth_Prize It is given by the ACM and by the IEEE. All three references given in the article are to ACM sites directly. These are two of the most well known prizes in this area of science. I saw that you added a note on 20 March 2021 that says that the article might not meet the "general notability guideline" for Wikipedia.

How about this potential method for constructively improving Wikipedia? I will try to add some references for both of these prizes this weekend. Both of these prizes are really well known in this area of science, and they are really a "big deal". The recipients are some of the most well known scientists who work in these scientific areas. The people that the awards are named for, Knuth and Flajolet, have each published more than 200 research papers in top-tier journals, and the prizes given in their name are recognizing big achievements.

I'll try to add some references to help further explain. I appreciate your constructive feedback. I'll work on this during the weekend. Thank you! MDW333 (talk) 11:04, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmission of Draft: Soham Chakraborty (Fashion Designer)

Hello

I have noticed that you have declined an article draft submission with the name : Soham Chakraborty (Fashion Designer). As per your comment, I have deleted the mentioned not reliable links. I have resubmitted the article for review.

Thanks! Dangdeguzman27 (talk) 23:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Looks like it has now been deleted as unambiguous advertising or promotion. Theroadislong (talk) 08:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

HI

Hi @Theroadislong Why do you say that the Salvatore Ruocco page cannot be on wikipedia? Salvatore Ruocco is on the French, Italian Wikipedia. There is also a source, the reliable solid for the actors: IMDB. You can give me an advice? I think there are all the references to be on wikipedia. I thank you in advance

It is irrelevant that they are on other language Wikipedias, they have VERY different guidelines. IMDb is NOT a reliable source and as that is all you have, I rejected it, you are welcome to add more sources, in which case it could be re-considered, you already moved it to main space where it was tagged for deletion. Do you have a conflict of interest by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 16:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draftification of non-AfC userspace drafts

I was wondering why you decided to draftify a few non-AfC userspace drafts, e.g. Draft:Tamerlaine Sanctuary and Preserve (unsimbitted AfC template was added after the move) and Draft:Nigel Poor? Draftspace is the preferred location for drafts with the voluntary domain of the AfC wikiproject; however, many may choose to avoid both per similar sentiments to those espoused at WP:DUD (and some may luckily avoid them unconsciously). Had the drafts remained in their former locations, they would never become eligible for G13. Now that they have been moved, they will be subject to that (some might call it backdoor) form of deletion after six months of inactivity. I would argue that, practically, that is the only thing that has been accomplished. The notion that drafspace aids collaboration and shines a light on things that would otherwise get dusty in userspace is great in theory, but I would argue that has never, or rarely, materialized within the space in actuality. Thanks, — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 19:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I moved them to draft as a kindness, they will need to be submitted and reviewed before being accepted, the alternative would have been to send them to afd? If you disagree, move them back to main space and I will send them to afd. Theroadislong (talk) 19:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They originated in the userspace, i.e. at User:Vegan4theAnimals/sandbox and User:Lcmiller11/sandbox.

The alternative to seek deletion would have been miscellany for deletion. As a regular there, I can say that it is unlikely consensus would be found to delete them there. The other alternative (that I personally would suggest) would have been to leave them where they were, which is largely a net neutral. The author may return or someone else may find them and improve them there, but they will never be subject to arbitrary deletion that way.

Any qualms if I return them to the userspace? — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 20:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure go ahead. However User:Vegan4theAnimals did request here [3] "Can I now somehow edit the name of my Sandbox and submit it for review for publishing?" Theroadislong (talk) 20:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Musician

You just restored INACCURATE INFORMATION, buddy. Andrew King is NO LONGER editor of Canadian Musician. It is Michael Raine. Some basic Google research will reveal that. And in my edit, I had linked to an article showing that Raine is now the editor. You shouldn't have reversed this. I improved the article with updated information, and you restored old, outdated information. You are hurting the quality of Wikipedia with these decisions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArthurRobertRobert (talk • contribs) 17:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In future please leave an edit summary, as you did the second time. Theroadislong (talk) 18:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Tor maar... F*l edtr tuin... H*t* marao na amr article reject... Kuttar bacha... — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrueStarTruck (talk • contribs) 18:55, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are saying. Theroadislong (talk) 19:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April editathons from Women in Red

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Review Draft:Müge Turan

Hi,

I was wondering if you could review my article again. I removed the external links and added more sources. Thank you very muchMapri (talk) 09:44, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

editing

Hello,

You left me a message, "Wikipedia cannot be used as a source please remove," and I don't really understand it. Could you please explain it to me?

Thanks,

KSCV

Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference, I have converted the first instance to a wiki link instead as an example for you. Theroadislong (talk) 19:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I think the references on my draft were rearranged by you, and now it is as it supposed to be. Is anything else needed to be changed on my draft or it is ready to go? Thank you for your help. KSCV (talk) 15:09, 24 March 2021 (UTC) KSCV[reply]

Draft:Florence MacAulay

I hate to be one of those people... but what do you think of this one: Draft:Florence MacAulay? I cleaned it up a bit. --- Possibly (talk) 19:41, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go, I've accepted it. Theroadislong (talk) 19:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ricardo P Lloyd

Please help approve actor Ricardo P Lloyd on Wikipedia he is a notable British actor appearing on Bbc Sunday morning live, Itv news london working with Mark Rylance and being listed in the voice newspaper ones to watch out for. Johnbary129 (talk) 15:29, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Johnbary129 You need to start by removing ALL of the unsourced content, it is very poorly written in a non neutral encycloapedic tone, with too much trivia so is not likely to be accepted as it is. Be sure to declare any conflict of interest too. Theroadislong (talk) 15:36, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did I disclose a COI correctly?

Hi there. You commented on my draft article letting me know that I need to say if I work at an organization--for which I thank you! It's my first article. I attempted to do so using the template on the talk page. But I have no idea if I did so correctly. Can you tell me if I did? Thank you! Vegan4theAnimals (talk) 18:11, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Vegan4theAnimals[reply]

You will need to disclose your paid editing on your user page, and the draft will need a complete re-write for neutral tone, at present it is just blatant advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 18:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Declined submission

Hello,

Thank you for reviewing my latest submission of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Buyer_modalities_framework You declined it based on "blogs are not suitable sources".

I would like to bring the following to your attention: 1. Buyer's psychology is a key field in marketing, albeit lacking articles in Wikipedia, which I am trying to contribute to. It's not quantum physics, there are less academics research in marketing psychology than in hard sciences, so it's important to source from marketing professionals and companies who experience in real conditions. 2. My first submission was declined because "20% (of the source) of which are to the originators of this concept". One out of the 5 original sources was indeed (and I thought that was fair and honest) related to them. 3. One of the key other sources was academic research made by one of the most famous European universities, the KUL. It may not be as famous as Harvard, but it's a high reputation institution. 4. As it seemed too slim, I have added other sources, and many professionals and journalists' articles take the format of blogs these days. Blogs are valid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blogs_as_sources => I am using a diversity of unconnected sources (not just 1 or 2, as I could be accused of being biased, but I am not related to any of them) from reputable marketers and journalists.

I have tried to do a fair, neutral, balanced article, that explores a key area of marketing and consumers; when I mentioned to other marketing experts that there was no article on this topic within Wikipedia, they were surprised. But I am really not sure what I can do more?

Thanks,

John — Preceding unsigned comment added by John JL London (talk • contribs) 15:57, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Blogs as sources was a failed proposal. Your Draft:Buyer modalities framework contains at least 6 blog references, if it is really a notable topic I would expect there to be better coverage of the term in more main stream sources. Theroadislong (talk) 16:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

blatant advertising

Hello, there I hope you are doing great. I just spent like 3 days writing the text and all info's for the company I work and after using like 6 hours of learning how to publish a page I finally did it and it looked very well but after submitting it for a review I got rejected and the reason was "blatant advertising" I mean I don't understand what this means ? Can you please help me with this issue and give me any advice or assist me how to solve this. My username is Artmotionpristina

Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artmotionpristina (talk • contribs) 21:52, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide multiple references to in-depth articles written about your company in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books or online. Any article should be based on them alone, we have no interest in what they want to say about themselves. Per Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure you must disclose on your user page, who is paying you to edit, editors who are or expect to be compensated for their contributions must disclose their employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any paid contributions. Theroadislong (talk) 22:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recent rejected submission

Hey Theroadislong,

Thank you for your feedback. Would you please provide me further details about the rejection of my submission (please see below)? The references I have used are from reliable sources such as Forbes Italia, WWD and Fashion Network. Is it also an issue to provide references that are not in the English language?

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kindindubai (talk • contribs) 09:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Most content on Forbes.com is written by contributors with minimal editorial oversight, and is generally unreliable, do you have a conflict of interest regarding Kampos by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 09:43, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. What sources do you recommend to use? I am currently having a conversation to resolve a conflict of interest. Does it impact the submission of the contribution I would like to make? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kindindubai (talk • contribs) 12:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, paid editing MUST be declared. Theroadislong (talk) 12:36, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please accept my Noman Abid Lakhni Article

please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Owaissaleem22 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barron Trump submission

Is it not notable that he was discussed all over the internet for the #freebarron2020 movement? What about the millions of tiktok videos, tweets, and memes about him and this movement? What is considered “notability” on Wikipedia? That seems notable enough to me. Thousands of signatures, trending all over the internet, and a permanent place as a part of meme culture and his fathers presidency. Is this not notable? All of this was included in the article. Emysavage (talk) 20:05, 27 March 2021 (UTC) Emysavage (talk) 20:05, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hello, How do you tell that IMDB is unreliable? That is the most important and reliable site to understand the cast of a film: The film is composed of that cast, I don't understand why you correct me. If Imdb announces that cast, there is that cast in the film, Trust me, imdb is the most trusted site of all the newspapers combined. --Salvatoreariel (talk) 13:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:IMDB the content on IMDb is user-generated, and the site is considered unreliable by a majority of editors. Theroadislong (talk) 13:42, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Green Bay Packers vs. New York Giants

Hello Theroadislong,

Please check my new wording and tell me if it is good. Can I also ask you if enough of my sources are reliable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelPackBrewGuy (talk • contribs) 16:42, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The wording is much better thank you, I know nothing about American football though, so will leave it to another reviewer to decide. Theroadislong (talk) 16:50, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong

Hi Theroadislong, nice to meet you. I created an article about Salvatore Ruocco as an actor. You canceled it. It is my first article and I would like to finish it successfully. I left the sources on the draft of the article, can you check if they are okay with you? I hope I can successfully finish my first article. I met this actor watching Abel Ferrara Napoli Napoli Napoli and many other films. I think you deserve to have an article on wikipedi. I thank you in advance. --Salvatoreariel (talk) 17:28, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted after a discussion here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salvatore Ruocco you have created it again here Draft:Salvatore Ruocco with very poor sources and it was rejected, it will not be considered again unless you provide multiple, significant in depth coverage in reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:41, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is not an edit war

Hello,

I do not understand your message. I am a consumer marketing and advertising expert, engaged both in the academic and practical aspects of marketing. I have decided to bring this expertise to Wikipedia, as I found it very light on the marketing and advertising front. My contributions, as falt, boring, factuals, and neutral as possible, are obviously reviewed by people who are not marketing and advertising experts. My contribution, about a concept that has been used by marketers, have been judged "promotional": promotional for whom? I quote the creators of the concept: it's promotional. Great; let's not quote Einstein in the theory of relativity, then. I quote multiple different and unrelated journos and professional sources: it's promotional. I source from one leading European university: it's promotional. What can I say...