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Kawartha Credit Union article declined

Hi, I am confused and disappointed that you have declined to have this article. There are many referenced and verified sources in it. I do not believe it reads like an advertisement. It is factual, concise and sourced. This is a very large credit union that had an article on wikipedia for well over a decade before it was deleted. Without any specific feedback I can't change it.

Draft:Retford_King_Edward_VI_Grammar_School

Hello, I think I've followed all your advice since you originally rejected https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Retford_King_Edward_VI_Grammar_School. I'm waiting patiently for it to be re-reviewed, read the guidance, tried the IRC - any other advice please on improvements I can make? ~~

Walter Granville-Smith

Thank you for reviewing the article! BinaryPhoton (talk)Binary Photon

my article

so i did mine and it was rejected immidiately. why?

Henrich Bankole Akomolafe

how can you help me with this article,

am not the owner am a news writer (henrich akomolafe

Ap27956

I am so disapointed that you declined my page!

Photo Kathmandu

Thanks for taking the time to review my submission (Draft:Photo Kathmandu)and your feedback. I've removed all the in-line external links as requested. Anything else you think I could improve in this article? Many thanks!

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Draft:Chief_Pat

Hi Theroadislong! Thanks for the feedback on the Draft:Chief_Pat page.

You noted that you had denied approval because YouTube was referenced for 7 of the 15 sources, however a majority of the YouTube citations were related to channel statistics/milestones that were rather obvious and perhaps not needing sourcing (1, 2, 5, and 6). Would it be better to remove those 4 references?

Otherwise, are the 8 other sources sufficient? There are other snippets that could be added with more colorful commentary, i.e. "Few individuals around the world are as synonymous within the mobile gaming scene as Chief Pat is" from https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/8269/igec-panel-highlight-mobile-esports-the-worlds-largest-niche-community, but I opted to keep things more clear-cut. I'd love to hear your feedback.

Here are some articles I'm using as reference for either gaming YouTubers, or esports organization founders/CEOs: Andy Dinh, OMGitsfirefoxx, Hafu_(video_game_player), Trump_(video_game_player)

Dave Taranto

On 14th December I let the community know that I am writing an article on a producer, radio announcer and promoter David Taranto. It was rejected on the grounds that it wasn't relevant enough.

I believe I didn't provide enough information about the subject, or gave misleading info on my intentions, which might have made it appear that the article might be a bit amateurish. I hope I didn't mislead. I must stress that an article on David Taranto would provide crucial historical information on the Australian comedy industry.

I should explain. In the Melbourne comedy industry in the 1990s, David - Dave - Taranto showcased many Australian comedians who became international acts such as The Doug Anthony Allstars and Lano and Woodley, who received the Edinburgh Fringe's Perrier Award. The BBC subsequently produced a TV series starring Lano and Woodley. He promoted and broadcast many other successful comedy acts in the 1990s. Dave's untimely death in 1999 put an end to his short career. But a number of producers and myself feel that that specific era in Australian comedy is missing from the industry's history. I would like to create an article to provide the public with details of his career and activities. There are a number of other colleagues who will contribute information and edit facts.

To help you get a clearer picture, I am a performer, comedy writer, dramatic actor and playwright. In constructing a Wikipedia article I am committed to providing a professional product. 

I have provided  information taken from Melbourne newspaper The Age' Bold text for your information.

https://Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the ).www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/tv-and-radio-comedys-new-centre-stage-20021230-gduzxw.html

I hope this allays any concerns you have regarding the importance of the article. I will proceed very slowly in slowly gathering verifiable facts and consult with other professionals amongst the comedy contributors. If you want further information about me, I have an IMDb page. There are also a number of articles about me online.

Thank you for your feedback, Theroadislong. Much appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards

Frederick - Fred - Rowan.

Speedy deletion of my sandbox

Hey Theroadislong, hope you're having a nice day!

I was just coming here to discuss your tagging my sandbox for speedy deletion. I used the "Contest this speedy deletion" button, but about 1 hour afterwards, Bbb23 deleted both my sandbox and my contesting of the deletion.

When I wrote the article, I appropriately tagged it with

so that it would not be taken literally. For this reason, it was not vandalism and I made clear it wasn't real, so it does not qualify as a hoax. Furthermore, since it was my sandbox, there was no reason to delete it since the sandbox is designed for experimentation. Finally, according to the Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, a page should, if possible, be reverted to the last acceptable version. My sandbox has not always had the deleted article draft in there, so, even if all my above points are wrong, it should have been reverted to the last acceptable version.

Thanks for taking the time to read this!

P.S. I sent a similar notice to Bbb23's talk page, so you my want to comment over there. Ghinga7 (talk) 20:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall what the content was and I am not an admin so can't see it, but presumably you submitted the sandbox for review as an article? Theroadislong (talk) 20:32, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I did. It was submitted for review sometime in the evening yesterday (I think), and was deleted 3 hours later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghinga7 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 13 February 2020 (UTC) Note: the aforementioned page has been restored by Bbb23. There is no reason to further this discussion unless you feel there is a need to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghinga7 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

Hello Theroadislong,

Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

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Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.

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The Toven draft

Hi,

Your point was well taken however it seems to defy logic. Wikipedia and its volunteers determine and validate "independent reliable sources" when approving or denying articles correct? Are you stating that The approved Wiki articles that have been cited in The Toven article draft did not receive independent in debt coverage? If the answer is yes, then why does the published text exist in Wiki as approved?

If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.'

The contributions The Toven made to Dj Rectangle and Jayo Felony have both received significant coverage and is noted and cited in the text properly.

With respects to some needed adjustments, It seems this review isn't being handled correctly. Please reconsider

Respectfully

Thanks 16:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)Spiritletters (talk)

(talk page stalker) @Spiritletters: your sources all appear to be Wikipedia articles, which we never use, and their website, which can't be used to show notability. I'm wondering if your Wikipedia links were meant to go to the news media mentioned. Doug Weller talk 16:41, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doug, Good solid point. Yes, news media mentioned (unless its biased or slandering with malicious intent like some) As well as Wiki articles and the news media links that were used to verify the notability of the article to begin with. Thanks Spiritletters (talk) 17:19, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My Page Utpal Kishnaji Khot

Hi Theroadislong

My Page Utpal Krishnaji Khot has been taken down by you. As this is my first page please help me regarding anything which i have missed. I have tried to put as much references as possible relevant to subject. If you read articles you will find in staring about many other things that Utpal is doing and eventually you will read in the articles about his contribution and his NGO work also. Kindly help me as i'm a newcomer and don't have experience as you have.

Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by DivyaSethia (talk • contribs) 13:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
For all the work you do! It is a pleasure to work with you. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:21, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Miledate/sandbox/Scum (music band)

Hello. Why you declined my article about Scum band? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miledate (talk • contribs) 09:36, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As the decline explains "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject." You have no sources at all in fact, so no way of establishing if they might be notable. Theroadislong (talk) 09:45, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Theroadislong

You had a look at the biography page I had created about Davood Roostaei about 10 days ago and you mentioned I needed to add more references. I have now added 40 new references to the references I previously had. Are you able to look at it again and see if the article can be published? I would appreciate this. I have submitted it for review again but it says it can take up to 4 months. So I wanted to reach out to you and see if the article can be published sooner. Please have a look at my draft again and let me know. I believe it should now be in good shape. Best Regards, Jeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 09:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is still very lacking in sources to support it. The introductory section, the Early life and education section and the career section are all unsourced? Please read WP:REFB for help with formatting sources. Theroadislong (talk) 10:26, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong, Thanks again for having a look at my draft. I understand your concern. All the 3 sections you mentioned have been sourced based on me reading and researching a variety of reliable secondary sources such as the book of Davood Roostaei which is called, " Davood Roostaei and the Manifesto of Cryptorealism", as well as thoroughly reading numerous news articles, art magazines, and biographies written on him by different art historians. And these have all been put under the references section with links which take you to them for the ones that exist online. I have also both interviewed the artist and have attended numerous exhibitions of his work and have learnt a great deal about him and his art. However, I have not input the references in the body of the article, I have listed them all below under the references section of the article. But if this is a problem then I can add more references within the body of the article as well. The references I have added showcase a variety of different depths in terms of coverage on Davood Roostaei and his art. Some go in great depth and some are more general. However more references can certainly be added. Davood Roostaei is a well recognized contemporary artist internationally and he has been recognized for his artistic achievements since the mid 1980's until now. Therefore, some references such as old newspapers and books have also been used here in writing this article which I have mostly cited as well even though links may not be found to them online. To sum this up, if you have a look at all the references I have put you will notice that the introductory section, the Early life and education section, and the career section are all well sourced. However, if more references are required then I can certainly add more. Also, you must note that some neutral bridges have been added by myself based on learning about Roostaei's work in great depth and having met and interviewed him several times, I felt at liberty to input some bridges in the article to make it easier and more pleasant to read. Again, thank you for your help. It is greatly appreciated. Best, Jeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 11:47, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The content will require in line citations. Wikipedia is not interested in our own perspectives, and all your original research will have to be removed. Theroadislong (talk) 11:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would I be able to add more inline citations and still keep all the other references I referred to in writing the article? Meaning, I can just add more references to my references list but also do inline citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 11:56, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So my understanding is that once a number of inline citations are added then the article should be in good shape to get published? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 12:00, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My article and my original research has all been based on the resources I have listed in the references section. However, from my understanding here I will need to add inline citations to the introductory section, the Early life and education section, and the career section correct? I will certainly get that done. And in terms of adding bridges which I mentioned earlier, I was meaning just simple word-smithing in a few areas where they were needed, not adding any unverifiable information. By bridges and perspectives I was meaning just adding a few words or a sentence if needed to make the transition between paragraphs more readable that's all. But all the information written have come from research based on secondary verifiable sources which I have listed a number of them in my resources section. And I will now get to adding inline citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 12:19, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you I received your comment on my draft. I will take out his website from my references list and only keep the secondary and independent sources. I will also add inline citations to all 3 sections you mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 12:38, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong, I am making the changes you suggested in terms of the inline citations. Can you please have a look at my draft and let me know if it is progressing in the right direction? Please note I am not done with it yet, I just want your opinion so far in terms of the improvements. Just to make sure im going the right direction. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 06:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Gold Derby Award for Best Drama Series

A tag has been placed on Gold Derby Award for Best Drama Series requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. DannyS712 (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Cheers, theroadislong Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 23:31, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page rejected?

Hello

I've been writing my first article and I see you've rejected or stopped it due to advertising. I'm trying to rectify this, and could do with some pointers if possible. Am I able to edit the page and then re-submit it?

All the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dazstrange (talk • contribs) 11:38, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft is totally inappropriate as it stands, apart from one sourced sentence which mentions a non notable award. You will also need to declare any conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 11:42, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Ok thanks, I'm taking a look at this. I was trying to follow a few similar Wiki pages for similar UK businesses, such as Linklaters LLP. I realise I need to add a lot of references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dazstrange (talk • contribs) 11:47, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


By the way, most of the article talks about the history of the company and its relevance to Reading, UK, plus historical figures in the law field. They are a very historical company, one of the oldest law firms in the UK. Apart from the Awards section, I don't think it reads like advertising at all does it?

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dazstrange (talk • contribs) 11:50, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but from the very first sentence it is nothing but blatant advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 12:36, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dazstrange and now it has been deleted as a copyright violation of https://www.blandy.co.uk/about/our-history-and-heritage which I missed. Theroadislong (talk) 15:25, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted my comments on your wall thingo?

You deleted my 2 comments? Come on man the hell up.... Pathetic Sharmo96 (talk) 10:54, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there,

I recently resubmitted an article for review and you denied it. I can't see why, as the sources I provided are entirely about the subject at hand - much more than the "mere mentions" that DGG denied the article for at first. Similar wikipedia pages seem to have even less relevant sources, such as dealsplus and coupon cabin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dealsplus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupon_Cabin

Can you please explain where I'm going wrong? I could really use your help here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jk3142 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong

Can you please have a look at my latest draft and let me know what you think so far? I have made the changes you requested and I'll be making afew more changes and I'll add some more references as well but I just wanted to see what you think so far. I believe it reads a lot more neutral and dispassionate now. Again, I appreciate your time and all your help and suggestions with this so far. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 04:14, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

article failure to submission

Hi！my submission is rejected by u. My ID is Zzhu8516. The reason is i copy too much. But now i changed a lot. Can u have a look now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzhu8516 (talk • contribs) 04:45, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SANGHAMITRA Post

Hi there,

just saw your message about the article rejection for Sanghamitra Fashion. I see my submission was rejected as the topic is considered not relevant enough for being posted. Would be feasible to please learn more about relevancy and what scope/ reach does a topic need to carry in order to be considered relevant?

I understand not many people know about SANGHAMITRA in Europe or the Americas, however the brand and family name touches millions of people in in India. The designer (sanghamitra phukan) is the daughter of Actor Biju Phukan, widely considered the most important actor in the North east of India:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biju_Phukan

Sanghamitra is the first indian model to have ever featured in a global Benetton campaign and was formerly global brand ambassador for Reebok, she worked internationally as a professional model and gave shape to her sustainable fashion/ lifestyle brand during the same time.

Across the last decade, SANGHAMITRA actually participated at the London fashion week, headlined the ASVOFF festival in Paris and hosted several events in both London and Milan (if international relevance is something important to wikipedia). Still regardless of that, the Sanghamitra annual fashion show is arguably the most important fashion appointment in the region of Assam, watched by millions of people locally and thousands of Indian/ Assamese people on global satellite TV.

The brand was featured on Forbes and innumerous local media platforms. Is there anything we could to provide in order to demonstrate this? Or could you please guide us on what would qualify as relevant to be rightly posted?

Many thanks Giuseppe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giuseppe Rodio (talk • contribs) 13:50, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, and intellectually independent of each other. See Wikipedia:Notability (people).or organisations see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Theroadislong (talk) 14:09, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube

Re: this edit: External links do not have to be reliable sources. They do need to comply with WP:EL. Links to Youtube videos are not forbidden. See WP:YOUTUBE. In this case, the video was produced by the Catholic News Service and posted to Youtube by them, so copyright violation is not an issue. --Srleffler (talk) 19:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes of course, my mistake. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 19:36, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Theroadislong

Can you please have a look at my latest draft and let me know what you think so far? I have made the changes you requested and I'll be making afew more changes and I'll add some more references as well but I just wanted to see what you think so far. I believe it reads a lot more neutral and dispassionate now. Again, I appreciate your time and all your help and suggestions with this so far. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 20:12, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong

I cut a bunch of lines out of the Early life and education part again and made the article even shorter. I'm not sure if I accidentally removed the exhibitions and public collections sections or you did, but I added those sections back on to my latest draft again. I have made the article shorter now and just looking to add a few more references then I think it should be good. Please have a look again and let me know if there are any other specific parts that I need to still cut out? I have very closely followed all of your suggestions so far and they have been helpful. So thank you again for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed Thatmontrealllp had removed my exhibitions and public collections lists. I put together these 2 lists by looking at gallery cites and artprice to get the location and the dates for the exhibitions, which I also included in my references. However, if you also prefer these 2 sections to be cut out then I will leave the draft as is currently and just add afew more references to it. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I followed the exact same format for the exhibitions and public collections as I saw in Angela Grossmann's Wikipedia page as an example. Then in my references I also included the source I got the exhibitions list from.. And as I noticed with Angela Grossmann's wikipedia, as well as many other artists, the Exhibitions and Public collections sections do not seem to need to be heavily sourced as it appears on Wikipedia. And I had enough sources for these sections to show where I got the locations and dates of the exhibitions from. However, if you also prefer for the exhibitions and public collections sections to be left out then I will leave out these sections as I currently have in my most recent draft. Or if you think it is okay for these 2 sections to be brought back into the draft then I will do that. I would preferably like to keep the exhibitions and public collections sections, as I believe they are just plain and informative facts layed out in point format and good for the article. But if these 2 sections need to be heavily sourced, and if it makes the process of the acceptance of the submission easier to leave them out then I am okay with that as well for now until I find more sources on them. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 10:19, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong, Just following up on the above. Thank you Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 20:24, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The "Exhibitions and Public collections" section is really irrelevant, the tone of the article is still wide of being encyclopedic for example..."This casting aside of the paint brush, has him viscerally connecting, through his fingers, with his subject on the canvas." this is not the sort of comment we would find in a neutral encyclopedia unless it was a specific quote from someone. I will leave it for another user to review. Theroadislong (talk) 20:31, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I understand. I’ll make some more changes and make it even more dispassionate and neutral and perhaps add some additional references. Would you then be able to publish it for me if everything is good? Thanks Jeff Nicolas774 (talk) 21:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you ever get a chance to have a look at Angela Grossmann's Wikipedia to see where I was coming from in terms of Exhibitions and public collections? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 05:10, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Theroadislong, I'm not sure if you looked at my most recent draft/edit or not. However, I just added some sources besides my Exhibitions and public collections list, and I can add more if needed. Or if you still prefer these sections to be removed that is ok too. Also I added some other Independent sources as well, such as : DER SPIEGEL, DIE WELT, Hamburger Abendblatt.. these are all very credible media which you can research for yourself. And I have also removed all other content which you previously instructed. Please have a look at my most recent draft and let me knbow your thoughts. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Nicolas774 (talk • contribs) 12:00, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As I said above "I will leave it for another user to review". Theroadislong (talk) 12:10, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Organic Psychoses of Childbearing

Dear Theroadislong,

Many thanks for responding so rapidly to my resubmission of the entry entitled 'Organic Psychoses of Childbearing'.

At the same time I posted this response to Robert McLennon, who made a rather similar comment to yours. I would be most grateful if you would study it. There are no other reliable sources! I am not sure how I can make it less like an essay, since it summaries about 20 distinct disorders! I hope very much that it can be made acceptible to Wikipedia, because this information is not available elsewhere in the encyclopaedia, and would be of value, especially in the poorer nations.

````Son of Fraser and Joyce````, February 24th 2020.

This is the response to Robert McClenon.

I am grateful to Robert McClenon for suggestions on the improvement of this submission. He commented:

[1] That the article reads like a subsection from a textbook, rather than a summary of what has been written by reliable sources.

The problem is that there are no other reliable sources. Very few books have been written on postpartum psychoses, and only one on the organic causes – my monograph published in 2006 (reference 4). Alwyn Lishman is an authority on organic psychiatry, but does not deal with this topic; in fact he wrote a forward to this monograph. My book ‘rescues’ knowledge contained in about 1,000 articles, theses and books written in the last 250 years. The book is a compendium of what has been written by a multitude of sources (of varying reliability). The book is not really a textbook – it would never be recommended to students of any discipline to ‘mug up’ for an examination; it is a source of information for scholars, scientists and clinicians. The submission is a summary for the Wikipedia community, which I hope will guide them to deeper knowledge in areas of interest to them.

[2] That the submission has no lead section. Partly this is my mistake in entitling the first paragraph ‘Introduction’, rather than leaving it untitled. My ‘introduction’ was intended to be a lead section. I have studied Wikipedia’s guidelines on lead sections, and see that this opening paragraph needs to be improved, identifying the topic, putting it in context, and stating why it is important, before summarizing the most important points. That is the main change in this re-submission.

[3] Thirdly, it has no links. I have supplied 23 links.

Many thanks for considering this re-submission.

````Son of Fraser and Joyce````, February 24th 2020 i.f.brockington@bham.ac.uk

The draft seems to contain original research and or synthesis, if there are no other reliable sources then we don't have an article I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 12:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 15:49:14, 24 February 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Purplemoonsong


Hi! You reviewed my draft of Barbie Fairytopia: Magic of the Rainbow and declined it because the sources were not reliable. I am a little bit confused about how I can improve this, because I saw many of the other Barbie movies had similar sources, and they were allowed through. One of my sources was the IMDB page, and I thought that was a reliable source. Could you give me any more specific feedback? Sorry for the trouble!

Purplemoonsong (talk) 15:49, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can read up on what constitutes a reliable source here, IMDb has never been considered a reliable source because it is user edited. The fact that other poor quality articles exist is not an excuse to allow more, see other stuff exists. Theroadislong (talk) 16:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi, Thanks for leaving a comment. I didn't know that Wikipedia doesn't reference itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali.shaila (talk • contribs) 16:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

draft: Housecall Pro

Hi, I made edits to the draft page "Housecall Pro": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Housecall_Pro and eliminated blatant advertisement content. Please take a look and let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cecilia0130 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Still looks like blatant advertising to me, do you work for the company by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 17:58, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

QSP SUMMIT article

Hi,

Thanks for the feedback.

The major part of the "QSP SUMMIT" article is not written in english because I am portuguese and I wrote a portuguese article about a portuguese major marketing event.

As for the professionals titles in Portugal it is common to write them in english. 

May you give some advices to improve my article so that it will be accepted by you?

Best regards, Maria — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maria Pereira5 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to translate it into English and remove all of the Wikipedia references which cannot be used as a source, also removing the GIGANTIC lists would be an improvement. Theroadislong (talk) 21:25, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can’t find your tag

Hi, someone said you tagged a problematic sentence for me that needs proper citation but I can’t find the tag or see it. In other words, I don’t know which sentence it is. Can you tell me if it’s reference #1, 2, or 5? And so on. If you tell me which number it is then I’ll do my best to fix it. Thank you! Rleighty855 (talk) 13:08, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rleighty855: The tags in question are the [citation needed] ones. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 13:17, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t mean to sound like a broken record but I put in 5 references so which one of them is it? Could you help me edit my draft? Rleighty855 (talk) 13:57, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rleighty855: On the Draft:Delaram Kahrobaei page, in the Biography section there are many sentences that have [citation needed] tags. Each one of those sentences has to have a one or more citations to a reliable source. There can't be content in the draft does doesn't have an inline citation.
No citation:
Person was born in New York.[citation needed]
Inline citation:
Person was born in New York.[1]
You can use the same reference multiple times. Or multiple references can support the same thing. But all facts have to be cited. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 14:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


THANK YOU SO MUCH! I finally saw the [citation needed] marks at the end of the sentences. That really clarified so much for me! I'll keep in mind next time to add references at the end of each sentence/fact, just to cover my bases.

You are awesome! Thanks again! I hope it passes this time.. fingers crossed!! Rleighty855 (talk) 15:18, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rleighty855 Since you are being paid to edit, I will not be assisting you in any way, shape or form. Theroadislong (talk) 19:17, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was born Deaf and I've been told I'm very naive. I am truly new to this Wikipedia thing. I'm still learning. So sorry, thank you.

Thank you Rleighty855 (talk) 19:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh

See my new AFC comment on Draft:Delaram_Kahrobaei. Paid editing! I also wanted to say how much I enjoy stalking your talk page-- I hope you do not mind. So many fascinating chaacters pass through here, and your asessment is always correct! I learn things all the time from the activity here. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:15, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was born Deaf and I've been told I'm very naive. I am truly new to this Wikipedia thing. I started out as an artist and illustrator due to my not being able to speak. Over time I worked on my writing skills and wanted to try find a job from home. I had no idea wikipedia editors don't like paid editors. I recently made a user page the other day, and I'm surprised to find such hate towards paid editors. Can someone explain to me why? I'm used to being bullied because I was made fun of for my deafness and not being able to speak correctly. So, I'm used to this kind of response in the world, but on here?? I'm willing to learn and respectfully follow the policy.

Rleighty855 (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:Paid editing (essay) "Paid editing is generally frowned upon in the community. There are also some editors who very strongly disapprove of paid editing, and others who do not care about it and focus only on content. But please be aware that the general sentiment is uncomfortable with paid editing, at best. It is tolerated. Rightly or wrongly, paid editors are often viewed with suspicion or even hostility by many members of the Wikipedia community. An established editor who makes the decision to edit articles for pay can expect to face a negative reaction once that is disclosed by the editor or by others." Theroadislong (talk) 19:34, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) @Rleighty855: it's nothing personal. I don't hate paid editors-- I just don't work with them. On Wikipedia as in life, I tend to avoid situations where two people are working and only one is getting paid. that is pretty much all I have to say about it.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Ohhhhh that makes so much sense. I'm truly sorry. I told the lady I cannot take her money and closed the contract. I still hope I can edit some pages for fun, especially if it is about art. I love art!! Thanks again for helping me learn. :) Rleighty855 (talk) 19:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good. You should feel totally welcome to edit here. However if it is paid editing you may run into some resistance, as you discovered. But it is all allowed if done correctly.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:53, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:John Krynitsky

i don't understand why you rejected me

i wasn't done editing it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmiller2029 (talk • contribs) 22:18, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

sorry i am just so confused why john krynitsky does not deserve a page

Gmiller2029 (talk) 22:19, 26 February 2020 (UTC)User:Gjmiller2029[reply]

You had submitted it for review, I reviewed it, the submission has no sources and no indication that the subject is notable, so I rejected it. Theroadislong (talk) 22:21, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

QSP SUMMIT article

Hi Theroadislong,

Thanks for the feedback, what you pointed out makes perfect sense. I will take your advice into account and improve the article as soon as possible. Best Regards --Maria Pereira5 (talk) 06:44, 27 February 2020 (UTC)Maria Pereira[reply]

Michael T Pugh Wikipedia Page

Dear Theroadislong - my apologies to you if it appears as though i have a conflict of interest. Michael T. Pugh is the CEO of Carver Federal Savings Bank and I am his assistant. I have no interest in his wikipedia page other than to make edits. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatalieRoss (talk • contribs) 16:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that you are his assistant means that you have a very clear conflict of interest! You are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Theroadislong (talk) 16:28, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Union & Peace Page Declined

Hello, I would like to know what needs to be done to the Union & Peace page for it to be approved to be published. Its a translation of a page that is already published in the spanish version of wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santiagocamara (talk • contribs) 18:46, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The decline notice explains what is required, you have not referenced any of the content? Theroadislong (talk) 18:51, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zoltan Torey article

Hello Theroadislong Can you please help me to re-direct the article on "Zoltan Torey" and delete "Zoltan Troey"? The title is incorrect as it is spelt as "Troey". My apologies for this stupid omission. Your help will be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Da veder (talk • contribs) 23:45, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Theroadislong (talk) 08:23, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Sanghamitra Fashion

thank you for your reply, sorry first time I make a post here and did not know about sources...will make a more complete submission with a full list of links. Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giuseppe Rodio (talk • contribs) 15:53, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just added a few more links that should demonstrate Sanghamitra's notability, is the correct process to add them to the previous article as I did?

Thank you for your guidance here, not the most straightforward interface and appreciate the feedback — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giuseppe Rodio (talk • contribs) 16:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) D v 22:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you sincerely for your kind help, Theroadislong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Da veder (talk • contribs) 22:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, but we come back to the original query here...as in, what sources do you actually consider for notability? We do have in depth coverage from multiple independent sources. I pasted a few in the amendment, can post more and we can literally continue for days, as there is countless coverage on Sanghamitra in India. This being the the point I raised initially, does the brand need to be famous internationally to be covered by Wiki? As in this case yes, there is limited coverage/ mentions around the brand itself abroad, being limited the activity carried out so far outside India. However, Literally millions of people know Sanghamitra Phukan and her work in the north east of india. Is the geographical area somehow affecting the post?

Also, as the internet does not have the same spread there as it does in other parts of the world, would be feasible to attach actual images of local newspapers/ magazines? we actually have coverage across the whole southeast asia so we could show that evidence too. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giuseppe Rodio (talk • contribs) 20:08, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The draft reads like blatant advertising, and you clearly have a conflict of interest. You can get other editors opinions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Theroadislong (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So being this the first ever post I do on Wiki I am not sure about the correct layout to be used. It would be greatly appreciated to receive feedback on this side. As per what I wrote, I tried to research on what other brands pages look like, so to draft a similar snapshot with key information. This below is one of the examples I used as reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunello_Cucinelli

As you can see the edit is very similar to the one I chose, hence at this point I don't understand anymore...Is brunello cucinelli's page advertisement? As in, are brands paying to be advertised on Wikipedia? Purpose of our submission is simply to educate people about Sanghamitra, which I believe would be the purpose of any other post here...knowledge. Given all the facts we demonstrated, not sure how to proceed with it. Shall we attach more evidence/ can we attach also images? Could you please advise, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giuseppe Rodio (talk • contribs) 21:16, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FH Davis

Hi. You moved User talk:FH Davis to Draft talk:Francis Harley Davis (along with moving User:FH Davis to Draft:Francis Harley Davis). The talk page, though, has messages that are meant for the user, FH Davis, not the article talk page, including the username policy problem. I started to manually cut/paste the sections back, but maybe it's better to just reverse the talk page move? Thanks. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 21:58, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, AlanM1 I'm really sorry about that mess! Thanks for sorting it out. Theroadislong (talk) 13:55, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP: NMUSICIAN

Greetings Theroadislong! I am curious about your comment in regards to my Draft:Wise Blood (Musician). The first criteria for notable musician is "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.". In my article I have cited multiple, "non-trivial" interviews and profiles in The New York Times, The BBC, The Guardian, MTV, Gothamist, FACT magazine, and Pitchfork among others. I don't claim to have presented the perfect article and do not mind continuing to revise it but am having trouble understanding how this particular criticism is valid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapmaker88 (talk • contribs) 13:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mapmaker88 Hello my comment "Would need to pass WP:NMUSICIAN" wasn't a criticism it was just a statement, it appears from looking at the sources that he could indeed pass the threshold. You could enquire at the decliners talk page as to their reasoning. Good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 13:54, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Theroadislong I do appreciate any feedback and thank you for helping me along as I try to complete my first article. Any future notes or comments would be much appreciated as I continue to get a hang of this!

Recheck

Plz recheck Bhawna121191 (talk) 19:21, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to re-submit your draft Draft:Mountaineer Bhawna Dehariya. Theroadislong (talk) 19:24, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ASB GlassFloor draft

Hi Theroadislong,

Just a quick question, Is the draft now ready to be resubmitted again? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ASB_GlassFloor

Or do you think there still needs to be more changes made before resubmitting?

Many thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBurger9 (talk • contribs) 07:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JBurger9 It still reads just like an advert for the company and has been declined for that reason. The awards do not appear to be notable so there is nothing to suggest that your company passes WP:NCORP. Theroadislong (talk) 11:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong, in my eyes the company is notable since ASB is the only company to produce a multifunctional glass sport flooring system in the world, but we can not say that otherwise we are deemed too advertising. ASB-floors are able to provide completely new training systems for athletes and advertising opportunities for sponsors on the court itself. We have over 30 individual independent articles throughout the article cross referencing with what we have been saying. Furthermore, there is even a Wikipedia entrance mentioning our glass floors, since ASB are the only sports courts made from glass able to switch sports within seconds is notable. I have removed most of the text because it deemed as advertisement, I have also found wikipedia articles to cross-reference with the awards to make them notable.

Also I am trying to write this article is first and foremost about the two flooring systems and not about the company itself. ASB GlassFloor is not only the companies name but also simply the umbrella term for the flooring system using LED lights as well as glass flooring.

JBurger9 (talk) 14:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JBurger9 None of that makes your company notable in Wikipedia terms I'm afraid, seeWP:CORP for details of what is required. Theroadislong (talk) 14:25, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

/* Help with Draft Rejecting and locked Draft:Antonios_Karatzis */

Can you help me with the rejection? When an autobiography rejected we cant do nothing? This restriction for how long keep locked the draft? — Preceding unsigned comment added by G antonakakis (talk • contribs) 11:01, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your autobiographical draft Draft:Antonios Karatzis, was rejected as being contrary to the purposes of Wikipedia, this is not a venue for promoting yourself, there are plenty of social media outlets for that, such as Linked In and Facebook. Theroadislong (talk) 11:07, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Black Hen Atriana

Good day! This is in regards to my Draft: Black Hen Atriana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Black_Hen_Atriana). As per your comment, you mentioned that "a number of these references do not even mention the subject". This is the same hen from Adria now Atri and the same hen that was mentioned by Pliny and Aristotle. Please review. Thank you.Piero.hatria (talk) 14:58, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you need to make it clearer that they are called different names then? Theroadislong (talk) 15:30, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You edited my submission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Openpath_Security,_Inc.#Openpath_Security%2C_Inc. and left a comment with "This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require clean-up to comply with Wikipedia's content policies." I can promise you that I am not paid (would be nice) and am doing this on my own as someone in the industry trying to bring a level of professionalism to the industry. As much as I appreciate you looking out for the integrity of Wikipedia and I applaud you for it, I would appreciate it if you would delete the message as in this case, it is not true. I resubmitted the content based on feedback given to me by Sulfurboy. This is the first of what I hope to be many additions to the community for the industry I serve. Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethesdaLee (talk • contribs) 17:33, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback left on a page I submitted

Hello. I recently submitted edits to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Openpath_Security,_Inc.#Openpath_Security%2C_Inc. which I wrote and where you added "This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require clean-up to comply with Wikipedia's content policies." I can assure you that I am not paid. I am an industry vet trying to bring a level of professionalism to the industry and one way is through them being properly covered online. Wikipedia is a great resource for the industry. Most do not so I am filling in the gaps, on my own, unpaid. This was the first of what I hope to be many submissions. I appreciate your dedication and effort within the Wikipedia community and hope you will reconsider your note and let people know that you can now confirm that this is not true as we've "talked." Thank you very much BethesdaLee (talk) 17:39, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References added

re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Althea_Vega I get imdb is not a reliable source, but a lot of actors wiki pages use it. anyway I've also added some news references and citations

That's correct but it doesn't help your draft establish notability and neither does YouTube I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 08:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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