User talk:Theroadislong

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= draft cleber machado - sculptor

Hi, I did not understand well. The article has been banned or should I just correct it. All fonts used were provided by the artist himself.

Kawartha Credit Union article declined

Hi, I am confused and disappointed that you have declined to have this article. There are many referenced and verified sources in it. I do not believe it reads like an advertisement. It is factual, concise and sourced. This is a very large credit union that had an article on wikipedia for well over a decade before it was deleted. Without any specific feedback I can't change it.

Draft:Retford_King_Edward_VI_Grammar_School

Hello, I think I've followed all your advice since you originally rejected https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Retford_King_Edward_VI_Grammar_School. I'm waiting patiently for it to be re-reviewed, read the guidance, tried the IRC - any other advice please on improvements I can make? ~~

Walter Granville-Smith

Thank you for reviewing the article! BinaryPhoton (talk)Binary Photon

my article

so i did mine and it was rejected immidiately. why?

Henrich Bankole Akomolafe

how can you help me with this article,

am not the owner am a news writer (henrich akomolafe

Ap27956

I am so disapointed that you declined my page!

Photo Kathmandu

Thanks for taking the time to review my submission (Draft:Photo Kathmandu)and your feedback. I've removed all the in-line external links as requested. Anything else you think I could improve in this article? Many thanks!

Draft page stuck in pending review

Hi Theroadislong, was wondering when we can expect the draft page for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Natalia_Safran to be approved. We rep this client; she has quite the list of accomplishments. She also has an existing page live here (polish) : https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalia_Safran . Please let me know if there is anything I can do to expedite this process. Thank you for your time! Miguel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lobelinecomm (talk • contribs) 01:22, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Firstly you need to declare your conflict of interest on your user page and then remove all Amazon and IMDb references as these are not considered reliable. Theroadislong (talk) 16:22, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days

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1	Rosguill (talk)	47,395	Patrol Page Curation
2	Onel5969 (talk)	41,883	Patrol Page Curation
3	JTtheOG (talk)	11,493	Patrol Page Curation
4	Arthistorian1977 (talk)	5,562	Patrol Page Curation
5	DannyS712 (talk)	4,866	Patrol Page Curation
6	CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk)	3,995	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	3,812	Patrol Page Curation
8	Boleyn (talk)	3,655	Patrol Page Curation
9	Ymblanter (talk)	3,553	Patrol Page Curation
10	Cwmhiraeth (talk)	3,522	Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.

Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:11, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you and apologies for my incomplete draft.

Thank you for your swift and clear review of my article on the cultural scientist Alana Conner. I have updated the entry with 13 high-quality, independent, secondary sources that attest to her notability. Please let me know if these additions are sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlleeCat7 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Sulfolobus solfataricus article

Dear Theroadislong, I'am a degree student working on my sandbox ( User Flavia Caccaviello ) to add a few paragraphs or information to the existing article on Sulfolobus solfataricus as part of an Educational Assignment. You can find more info on the course here. I've also added the educational assignment badge. Thank you for your comment! Flavia Caccaviello (talk) 15:27, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Vivian Wang Article

I did read it and did the best I could to make changes. It is not easy to understand. That's why I asked for help. If there's a way I could talk with someone and make the necessary changes I can do that. Or, I could pay for some professional help but have been warned against it. I really don't want to submit the article only to have it rejected four months later. I'm sure you understand. As a donor to Wikipedia, I'm a big supporter but this process has me very, very frustrated. Whatever help you can give me would be much appreciated. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy Halper (talk • contribs) 16:14, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Vivian Wang Article

Vivian Wang satisfies the following criteria for being notable: 1.The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. 2. The person is known for originating a significant new technique. 3. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. 4. The person's work (or works) has: (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition and (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. This is all documented in the article itself. If you have specific suggestions for references, I welcome them. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy Halper (talk • contribs) 16:25, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

I don't have access to any of your sources so cannot help, the draft certainly doesn't show she is notable at the moment I'm afraid. You need reliable independent sources which cover them in depth, the gallery sources are not independent. You also need to declare any conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Vivian Wang Article

When I first submitted the article on Vivian Wang I acknowledged that I was connected to her but apparently not clearly enough or according to the proper format. Vivian Wang is my wife. Nonetheless, the article is free of a bias. It is simply a description of who she is and what she's done. If this connection disqualifies me from submitting an article about her, please let me know as I spent a lot of time writing the article and then attempting to submit it (so far unsuccessfully) to Wikipedia. If not, then I will move forward. I would be happy to pay you to help me publish this article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy Halper (talk • contribs) 16:56, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Why

Alright, so 40 MILLION people play Overwatch. That’s a lot of people. Being within the top 500 best in the world is difficult and notable. I don’t understand how that is not notable but some random teapot museum in the Carolinas is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShowMePity (talk • contribs) 20:54, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

You may well be right feel free to nominate Sparta Teapot Museum for deletion. Notability is assessed by the number of reliable sources which cover the topic indepth. Theroadislong (talk) 21:07, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

I have saved you the trouble Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sparta Teapot Museum. Theroadislong (talk) 21:10, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Pulse Secure Declined

Good day, Thank you for the quick review of the page I submitted. In the rejection, the listed reason was reads like an advertisement. Can you give me some feedback on what part of the article read like advertising, so I can correct it? I styled it after Barracuda Networks, a company that is close to it in form. The one thing I did notice on the Barracuda Networks article is that a lot of the sources were just rehashes of press releases on third party sites, so for this draft I made sure to have better sources. Thanks for your help, and the work you do. CatHerderCam (talk) 15:17, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

January 2020 at Women in Red

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Thanks for your input

Since my subject is a YouTuber, it's a bit of a conundrum to avoid any citations from that site, but I reworked the article and added a lot of other sources that I think will be better. If you have time, I'd appreciate any more input you have. Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah/a pleasant general season to you! :) Perennialpoet (talk) 05:45, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Hedju-Hor page declined

I saw that you declined the English page on Hedju-Hor. I have no true conviction about it, but I solely made it because pages existed in other languages and not in English; all I did was translate it. If the sources aren't strong enough, I recommend you look at the other pages for consistency and delete them. (New to this. Not sure how it works) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagnumEnforcer (talk • contribs) 07:49, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Why

Why the rejection? Elkapitan81 (talk) 13:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Giovanni De Jesus Milanez has no sources, in order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide references to articles written about Giovanni De Jesus Milanez in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books, etc. Theroadislong (talk) 13:50, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

I Tried, im only 8. Brep8 (talk 15:00, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

The Deadweights ‎

Clear cut hoax. How did this go undetected since 2007? I declined my G3 so that someone at Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia can curate it. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 09:30, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes have to hand it to them, brilliant hoaxing, how they survived for so long is hard to fathom, most could have been speedy deleted at the time of creation, I haven't checked yet, but there could be more. Theroadislong (talk) 09:33, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Not quite as elaborate as this User:Rhododendrites/Chaney from a few years ago but still high up on the bogus meter. Congrats to all for finding it. MarnetteD|Talk 09:50, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Larry Ely Murillo-Moncada

Hello! Theroadislong You've reviewed my draft article on Larry Ely Murillo-Moncada and I've mentioned that another articles were also reviewing indeed. I if you check you'll found out I've also created that article. If you help me and possibly replace that article with his new one? Seeker 18th (talk) 14:31, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

question about my article

Hello, Could you let me know how I can improve my article so that it is published? Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.114.86.34 (talk) 16:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

I have no way of knowing what your article is? Please log in and try again. Theroadislong (talk) 16:57, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

re rejection Collibra page

Hey, thanks for the quick feedback on the article. I am connected, not as employee, but as a student to the company that sponsors our research. I study data innovation, and I believe I did a fair job at making sure the page has independent sources. As a 'unicorn' Collibra as a company has become the subject of master class case material: e.g., Harvard Business School http://www.datawest.org/uploads/9/1/0/0/91005152/dw19_draft_agenda_12-02-2019.pdf. Wikipedia would benefit from having a central page with history and relations to its technical grounds which already have established Wikipedia pages. Students can then expand on the page with their own studies over the coming years. Could you help us publish this article with your editorial guidance?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techhistorians (talk • contribs) 17:31, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Re: Sasha Gordon Page Review

Hi Theroadislong, I'd ask that you please reconsider the Sasha Gordon article. I believe that number 3 and/or 4 of the "Creative professionals" notability guidelines are met here. The artist has won significant critical acclaim (in the past two years, her body of work has been featured in HiFructose (https://hifructose.com/2018/08/06/sasha-gordons-surreal-intimate-scenes/), It's Nice That (https://www.itsnicethat.com/articles/sasha-gordon-art-280119), Amadeus Magazine (http://amadeusmag.com/blog/sasha-gordon-paintings-steeped-identity/), and New American Paintings (https://www.instagram.com/p/B6bLYSsl2-5/). She was an Honorable Mention is the new $50,000 Bennett Prize: https://thebennettprize.org/honorable-mentions-2019. In the past year, her work has been shown at highly publicized/reviewed shows including "Big Painting" at the Patrick Parrish Gallery (NYC), Nostos at Matthew Brown (LA), and Night and Day at Thierry Goldberg (NYC). Lastly, while a vain 21st century argument, her Instagram following and active engagers includes a virtual who's who in the contemporary art world: https://www.instagram.com/sashaagordon/. She's young, but she's already notable and continuing to gain prominence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohio2292 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

You are free to move the draft to main space yourself, but I doubt it would survive at WP:AFD "significant critical acclaim" has not been established here, Instagram and blogs are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 18:31, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the help. My sense was that HiFructose and It's Nice That are both pretty well-established fine arts publications that would rise above being a blog. They're certainly not the New York Times, but they seem to have a decent barrier-of-entry as far as their editorial standards. You have a lot more experience on here than I do so you're probably right that it won't make it through, but I'm stubborn and feel that the artist (whom I do not know personally) is worthy of a page and I'd like to maintain it as she continues to blow up, so I'll give it a shot. I've noticed that some Wikipedia pages for majorly acclaimed contemporary artists like Jonas Wood aren't kept up with a lot of helpful information, so I'm trying to go more in-depth with a handful of artists that I can follow closely and build their pages as relevant information comes to light. Ohio2292 (talk) 22:11, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Changes to Papua New Guinea work

Hi,

I totally understand that I needed to add some context to the work - you got there before I had a chance.

While I understand that a Facebook blog might not look important without context, in Papua New Guinea, these can be extremely influential. Kramer is widely regarded as having been elected based on the blog and he wields a LOT of power because of its readership. I've added some citations to support this (you deleted things while I was adding them, give me a few minutes to type!).

Dadi Toka Jr may not look important but he's basically the Papua New Guinea version of the chief of the Sioux, so saying he's unimportant is fairly insulting and I'm going to take that tag off fairly quickly before it gets picked up and spread through Facebook. He's in the midst of a major campaign to restore land rights to his people, who have essentially had the capital city stolen from them. He receives death threats over this, and in PNG that's pretty serious stuff (check out our level of violence, its appalling). He's likely to enter parliament fully next year and is a likely future Prime Minister. And regardless, as the head of the Motu Koita Assembly he's one of the most powerful men in PNG. I don't think Wikipedia is the place for hyperbole so I haven't written that. But that's the context behind the person and position.

Appreciate your points and I've added some citations - should have done that before. Hopefully that context gives you a bit of understanding and I'm happy to receive any constructive feedback on how to make things more relevant to those reading them for the first time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wantok Author (talk • contribs) 19:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Chief_Pat

Hi Theroadislong! Thanks for the feedback on the Draft:Chief_Pat page.

You noted that you had denied approval because YouTube was referenced for 7 of the 15 sources, however a majority of the YouTube citations were related to channel statistics/milestones that were rather obvious and perhaps not needing sourcing (1, 2, 5, and 6). Would it be better to remove those 4 references?

Otherwise, are the 8 other sources sufficient? There are other snippets that could be added with more colorful commentary, i.e. "Few individuals around the world are as synonymous within the mobile gaming scene as Chief Pat is" from https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/8269/igec-panel-highlight-mobile-esports-the-worlds-largest-niche-community, but I opted to keep things more clear-cut. I'd love to hear your feedback.

Here are some articles I'm using as reference for either gaming YouTubers, or esports organization founders/CEOs: Andy Dinh, OMGitsfirefoxx, Hafu_(video_game_player), Trump_(video_game_player)

Missing independent sources

Hello Theroadislong,

thank you for your kind words. I completely understand, because it is well-founded (independent sources are missing as far as I got the final result), but I want to give it a last try to have an English article belonging to https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayonara_Player (Germany) https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayonara_(p%C5%99ehr%C3%A1va%C4%8D) (Czech Republic, first article, not by myself)

First question:

How do I add those in the English Wikipedia, so that the two other languages appear in the left hand menu "Languages"?

Second question is:

Would it meet the quality requirements if I add the following sources? - A 10 pages article from Luke Baker on LinuxLinks (2019) (with an amazing summary by the way) https://www.linuxlinks.com/sayonara-player-small-clear-fast-audio-player/10/ - Abhishek Prakash from It's FOSS has the 2018 article "Sayonara is A Beautiful Lightweight Music Player for Linux" https://itsfoss.com/sayonara-music-player/ - It's supported by the German ubuntuusers.de, which I would add as a source for the chapter with Ubuntu mentioned https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Sayonara/ - The German publisher (known for the printed magazine c't - most famous IT magazine in Germany) is listing it with a 4,2* rating (even if it's only 5 voices): https://www.heise.de/download/product/sayonara-player-88402

What do you think?

I'm begging you to keep an eye on the list in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_audio_player_software

There are lots of smaller players without the media library functionality and without knowing the author of Sayonara Player (I'm independent as you can see, when you have a look at the Guayadeque Player entry in German Wikipedia) I can say, the player is worth it to get more and more known. As a reference kindly see the list of my articles published: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Dominic2105

Thank you very much for your time today. Even if it shouldn't be released, I'm saying thank you for your invest. Dominic2105 (talk) 21:33, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Re: rejection of Robert Russell article

Hi Theroadislong,

Thank you for reviewing my draft (even though it was not accepted). I would be grateful if you could give me some further guidance.

There are two family-based references: 1. Family bible = this only impacts his date of birth.

Question - if I remove the family bible reference and use the independently recorded (I.e. newspapers) date of birth, will this be more acceptable?

2. Personal notebook = this provides detail about his time in London and his early time in Sheffield. There are independent records (i.e. newspaper obituary) that state that he was in London and then in Sheffield, though without the “colour” / detail.

Question - can I leave in the detail from his notebook (which I cannot independently verify)? Or will this still make it “read like a family history project”?

3. Suitability of subject for Wiki article - My understanding is that you consider that Robert Russell is not sufficiently notable - is this what you meant?

Russell was a councillor (18 years), Alderman (16 years), Justice of peace (15 years) and mayor of city (1 year). He was a prominent and significant employer in that city. He also featured in a newspaper series about “ modern mayors..” with an abbreviated life story and is a named mayor on a Wikipedia mayors of Derby” page.

Question - given this, is Russell not notable enough or is it that I have not sufficiently conveyed his notability? [i suppose I am struggling to understand the notability of a modern celebrity who is famous for being famous versus a prominent leader of a significant city (albeit over 100 years ago]

I would be grateful for your guidance. Baddun (talk) 22:22, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

I don't think Robert Russell is sufficiently notable to have an article about him, there is nothing inherently notable about being a councillor, alderman or mayor. It all comes down to what reliable sources have reported about him, which it seems is very little, if you can find more sources and remove all the family history content you would stand a better chance. Theroadislong (talk) 17:20, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback. I will investigate further and, where relevant, expand on his achievements and remove the obviously family history content (except for the details about parents, wife and children - since this does usually appear in most wiki pages)

Baddun (talk) 13:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Publishing Victor Ekpenyong

Hello Theroadislong, thanks for your comment on my draft for Victor Ekpenyong regarding the source. I have corrected it. Do you have an idea on how much longer it will take for the article to be published and made available to search?

--Mhfatih (talk) 13:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

You have not submitted the draft for review yet, but I fear that the subject is not notable yet and would be declined. Theroadislong (talk) 09:45, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Improvement has been made.

The page has been improved with all the needed references and links to various articles and websites regarding the New Community Bible. Though not popular in western earth, it is highly appreciated edition in the southern and eastern earth. A Constantine Winchester (talk) 06:39, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

The draft is just a blatant advert supported by blogs, totally inappropriate for an encyclopedia article. Theroadislong (talk) 08:41, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

First Timer Assistance

Hello, I'm interested in getting something published, perhaps the Brad Daniels piece. Is there anything you can do to assist or fix? Thank you for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgeWrites (talk • contribs) 14:47, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Group of Five conferences

Resubmitted. You rejected the first draft of my first attempted at creating a page. I'd appreciate your review of the second draft. It includes multiple, possibly duplicative citations addressing previous issues as not being notable even though the terms and vernacular are commonly used in the vein of that topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhanChavez (talk • contribs) 04:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Update

Edited several related pages which would link the term "Group of Five" to Power Five conferences. Available for review in my limited contributions. I understand rejection for lack of notability or citations, however, upon review of pages which link to the Power Five group, common references across pages, as well as many external citations, there is no good reason that the "Group of Five" page should not exist alongside "Power Five" to disambiguate and provide proper information. It would be inappropriate to place a map and/or listing of "Group of Five" members on the "Power Five" page, as the "Power Five" page is specifically about the Power Five, not the Group of Five.

Else, if "Power Five" is allowed (64 of 130 schools) as "notable" enough, but "Group of Five" (60 of 130 schools) is not, then what would you say to 60 or 66 of those schools. They're not notable enough even though they play in NCAA Division I football? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhanChavez (talk • contribs) 23:22, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

PhanChavez (talk) 23:23, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

references updated of the article Sayem Sobhan Anvir

Dear Theroadislong,

I have updated references of the article Sayem Sobhan Anviras per your recommendation for your approval. Please let me know if further information require.

Best Regards, mfrshahin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfrshahin (talk • contribs) 11:11, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Thomas John Williams

Hello,

Could you please delete the above draft from Sandbox.

Thanks,

Londoner23 (talk) 11:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Brazilian numbers

Bonjour cher Theroadislong,

Thanks for your comment on my draft about "Brazilian numbers". You write today, "this submission seems to be a test edit and not an article worthy of an encyclopedia". English is not my native language, I understand "test", I understand "edit", but not "test edit".

In this submission, like other mathematical articles about number theory such as palindromic numbers, prime numbers, Fermat numbers, Mersenne numbers, transcendental numbers, ... there is an introduction, followed by an history paragraph, then different properties and paragraphs for distinct families of numbers: primes, repunits, composites, ... and at the end, a notion of highly Brazilian numbers inspired by highly composite numbers coming from Srivinasa Ramanujan.

There are in the text 28 Wikipedia references (in blue) towards mathematical terms or famous mathematicians, and ten references or external links towards historical articles. I don't forget the 18 links to OEIS sequences related with Brazilian numbers.

Please, do you think it is possible that this draft could be reviewed by a mathematician editor from English Wikipedia, maybe could you send him this draft or you can send me the Wikipedia surname of such an editor? So, because, I'd really like to understand why "this submission seems not to be an article worthy of an encyclopedia". It was about the same first comment for Fench Wikipédia, before French mathematician editors come and read my draft before to improve this draft together. I really don't see how to improve this draft which looks like the corresponding article of French Wikipédia. Big thanks for your help.

Have a very nice and good year 2020.

OSS117 (talk) 14:04, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

You may be referring to the French article that you created? The only content of your English draft is "Brazilian number , I wrote for French Wiki the article "Nombre brésilien": https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nombre_br%C3%A9silien

I propose to write the same in English.Brazilian number , I wrote for French Wiki the article "Nombre brésilien": https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nombre_br%C3%A9silien I propose to write the same in English." We cannot accept a mere proposal to write an article? Theroadislong (talk) 15:53, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello Theroadislong,

You write "The only content of your English draft is "Brazilian number , I wrote for French Wiki the article "Nombre brésilien": https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nombre_br%C3%A9silien". I really don't understand because in the English draft, after the introduction, there are seven paragraphs: 1. History, 2. Some first properties, 3. Primes and repunits, 4. Non-Brazilian composite numbers, 5. Numbers several times Brazilian, 6. References, 7. External links. I understand you don't see the complete draft with all the text. I have removed the first sentences which was related to my English not to much perfect. Please Theroadislong, could you tell me if now, you can read the complete draft? Merci, thanks you very much. Sorry to disturb you. OSS117 (talk) 10:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

OSS117 My decline referred to your submission here User:OSS117/sandbox which has no content apart from a comment. Theroadislong (talk) 10:20, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Possibly OSS117 meant to submit Draft:Brazilian number...? --(talk page stalker) CiaPan (talk) 10:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. Ah, ok, I understand. I speak about this draft, the draft cited by CiaPan : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Brazilian_number . I have not put this draft in my sandbox because at the end of the draft, there is a brown box where it is written: "Review waiting, please be patient."

So, please, must I put this draft in my OSS117 sandbox, or can you review the draft directly ? Merci.OSS117 (talk) 12:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

@OSS117: As far as I can see, you have submitted your draft for review already. You did it on 8 November 2019, in Special:Diff/925184549. --(talk page stalker) CiaPan (talk) 13:22, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

@CiaPan: Yes, it was a misunderstanding with Theroadislong, very very sorry. So, now, I have only to wait for review quietly, I have nothing more to do? Merci for your precious help. OSS117 (talk) 14:27, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Theroadislong for the message and for helping with my article Gentlemen's Fury. Happy Holidays. Best, Cleobarbara (talk) 23:24, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Rejecting submission

Hello,

I just wondering. You wrote "Rejecting submission: e - Topic is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia (AFCH 0.9.1)"

How about all the other Developers? Did they paid you? How much? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_genealogy_software — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midibo (talk • contribs) 12:33, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Midibo Your draft User:Midibo/sandbox has no independent sources and is written like an advert, it is entirely inappropriate for an encyclopedia. I have no idea whether other developers paid for their articles, but I would suspect not. Theroadislong (talk) 12:38, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry. But I cannot accept this as an answer. I wrote what the others wrote too. Delete all the articles from the others too and also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_genealogy_software because its "Topic is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midibo (talk • contribs) 12:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

How about all these programms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows-only_software Topic is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midibo (talk • contribs) 12:59, 1 January 2020 (UTC) Topic is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia?

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They are not written as adverts like yours, if they were then indeed they would be contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 13:03, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

I changed the article. I wrote exactly what others wrote. No excuse for advertisements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midibo (talk • contribs) 13:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

BUT... Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about it in reliable places. The article should be limited to a summary of what such independent sources have said about them. If there are no sources then we don’t have an article, your draft has zero independent sources? Theroadislong (talk) 13:20, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

I changed the article. I wrote exactly what others wrote. No excuse for advertisements anymore! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midibo (talk • contribs) 13:24, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Is Google Play not an independent source? What is for WikiPedia independent? Not Google? Are the other developers notability enough? How much notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midibo (talk • contribs) 13:37, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Ryan Trotti - Declined

Feedback, noted. New cite added. Ryan has now been recognized on with a full front page featured article on a third party newspaper (cited), a full on-air TV broadcast with CBS for their "Sound Check" music segment (cited), as well as a full on-air TV broadcast interview with NBC regarding winning the CCMA Entertainer of the Year (cited).

Would encourage you to look deeper into the citations and you will see these are fully credible, third party, major media groups, with unbiased, full feature coverage of Ryan Trotti. These are not simply "passing mentions" as previous feedback indicates.

Respectfully, this is the 2nd time that feedback was used as the reason, despite the first reviewer essentially "retracting" his/her comment after diving deeper into the citations.

I would humbly encourage reconsideration for this entry, as the artist is certainly being recognized by the proper outlets, winning significant awards, charting commercially available music, and being included as a lead performer in many national events and venues from coast to coast.

With sincerity, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:1312:47C3:EC19:FB66:1729:BB18 (talk) 07:03, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Fringe theories and § Due and undue weight

I made an edit - congruent with Wikipedia's Raison d'être, removing a word and giving the reason in the correct place - perhaps you missed it. Including the pejorative 'pseudoscience' was designed to, and had the effect of invalidating the organisation in question, and demonstrated clear bias on the part of whoever included it. And by the way, who are you and who gave you the authority to determine what is right or wrong on this particular entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by From Clairwood (talk • contribs) 11:38, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Truth in Science is a United Kingdom-based creationist organisation which promotes the Discovery Institute's "Teach the Controversy" campaign, which it uses to try to get pseudoscientific intelligent design creationism taught alongside evolution in school science lessons" seems to be exactly correct, as Wikipedia sides with science not Pseudoscience. Theroadislong (talk)

Creation science is not pseudoscience, but it seems Wikipedia has taken sides, rather than attempting to be objective. Here is a talk by Prof. Stuart Burgess (BSc Eng, PhD, CEng, FIMechE, FRAeS), 'Why Biblical Creation is Good Science 4/10/14 @ 3:30 pm EST' - won't let me post the Youtube link for some reason. He has taught engineering design at Cambridge University and Bristol University in the UK. He has won many national awards for engineering design including the Turners Gold Medal and a Mollins Design Prize. He has published over 130 scientific articles on design in engineering and design in nature. He has seven patents and carried out design projects for industry including designing parts of rockets and spacecraft for the European Space Agency. He is author of the books Hallmarks of Design, He Made the Stars Also, and The Origin of Man. He has lectured in many countries including the USA and Japan.

From the Wikipedia site - 'Wikipedia has been criticized for exhibiting systemic bias, for presenting a mixture of "truth, half truth, and some falsehoods",[24] and for being subject to manipulation and spin in controversial topics.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by From Clairwood (talk • contribs) 14:17, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

You are correct Wikipedia has taken sides and sides with science. Please discuss this on the relevant article's talk page not here, but beware of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctionss. Theroadislong (talk) 16:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Linking to authors pages from references

Hi, thank you for reviewing the page I created so quickly. I'm resolving the "orphan" issues and have added links to other wikipedia pages to the subject's page.

I've also found the subject on other wikipedia pages listed as an author on references for several other entries (HSP90, etc.), but when I add the link to his page (Mehdi Mollapour) from his name in the references, it shows up there as "Mehdi, M" - which is the opposite of how it needs to look. Please see reference #26 on the HSP90 page for an example. Is there a way to keep the internal link to his wikipedia page and have it displayed as "Mollapour, M"? Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CNYLibrarian (talk • contribs) 21:44, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

That's just the format of the citation, it still links to the article Mehdi Mollapour. Theroadislong (talk) 22:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

message I've received from you

I just saw that you ent me three messages saying that edits I made to articles on the Dardenne brothers, Terrence Malick and Ross McElwee constituted promotional or advertising material and violated Wikipedia rules mandating neutrality. I am upset and genuinely puzzled by this, since my edits consisted solely in adding titles to "Further Reading," "Bibliography" or "Sources" sections without any value judgments whatever. Yes, the titles I added were mostly publications of my own, but there's nothing I found at the Wikipedia web site made me think that isn't allowed. The web site makes clear that submitting an article about oneself is--and should be--discouraged, but I had no idea that I had done something wrong when I submitted, with the enthusiasm of a new member, the flurry of edits I submitted the past two days. Please don't take away my Wikipedia editing privileges--I'm a serious writer and didn't mean to do anything wrong. And please do clarify whether adding it is really prohibited to add books or essays of one's own to existing Wikipedia articles. And Happy New Year! William Rothman — Preceding unsigned comment added by William Rothman (talk • contribs) 22:07, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

It is not considered good form to add your own works to articles like this, it's considered spamming.Theroadislong (talk) 22:12, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Your feedback on Gersten Jacobs page

Your feedback is greatly appreciated! I've made a number of edits, eliminating things I'm unable to document and adding more frequent references. I hope these changes address your concerns and will allow the page to move forward in the review process. Happy New Year!Gaw54 (talk) 23:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lawrence_Lord

Hi

just wondering ( in detail ) what is wrong with this page?

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.242.46.245 (talk) 14:42, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

It didn't seem to make it clear how he passed WP:NMUSICIAN. Theroadislong (talk) 14:46, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Criteria for composers and lyricists

Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yesterday%27s_Gone_(Loyle_Carner_album)

that is a mercury award nominated gold selling album — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.252.85.201 (talk) 17:09, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Co-writing a single track on a nominated (but not winning) album is not very big claim to notability, you would need to find multiple in-depth coverage of him first. Theroadislong (talk) 17:45, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

the criteria was "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition" the album went top 10 and was nominated for the mercury prize ... what more would you need to be a "notable composition "

Multiple in depth coverage

https://www.passionweiss.com/2015/03/12/a-pyrex-scholar-an-interview-with-uk-producer-the-purist/

Pitchfork https://pitchfork.com/news/49856-watch-danny-brown-and-the-purist-get-trippy-karaoke-style-in-video-for-jealousy/

Fact magazine https://www.factmag.com/2013/01/23/hear-danny-brown-team-up-with-uk-producer-the-purist-on-jealousy/

Vice / Noisey https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/6adb84/the-purist-album-artwork-contains-instructions-for-cooking-crack

XXL https://www.xxlmag.com/news/2016/02/westside-gunn-purist/

The Guardian ( Glastonbury picks) https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/28/glastonbury-2015-what-to-look-forward-to-on-sunday

RWD magazine http://rwdmag.com/brighton-producer-the-purist-teams-up-with-mick-jenkins-for-new-single-touch-me/

Passion Of the weiss https://www.passionweiss.com/2015/03/12/a-pyrex-scholar-an-interview-with-uk-producer-the-purist/

Discogs https://blog.discogs.com/en/daupe-interview/

Bandcamp daily https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/daupe-label-westside-gunn-sonnyjimm-interview

Complex https://www.complex.com/music/2015/03/the-purist-new-song-premiere-el-capitan-feat-your-old-droog — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.252.104.94 (talk) 09:23, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.254.41.40 (talk) 08:53, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

hello i would appreciate a response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.254.41.40 (talk) 10:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Housecall Pro Draft Declined

Hi,

I edited the citation format and eliminated some external links. Can you confirm the approval of this page? Let me know if there are any other concerns.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cecilia0130 (talk • contribs) 23:18, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, no, it's just blatant advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 08:44, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Shanika Mayadunne

You have rejected the above article. We were trying to include one or our civil servants to the cyber space. I am not Shanika Mayadunne. I created the account named Shanika Mayadunne bcz I misunderstood the article name and user name my email praneethlaksiri@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanika Mayadunne (talk • contribs) 15:27, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Solution for Article Rejection

Hi Theroadislong,

I recently tried publishing an article in Wikipedia, but unfortunately, it was rejected stating "This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia". It would be so nice of you if you can you please provide me with further insights on why my article was rejected and is there any way to get it published. My wiki user name is "BasimaAakif".

I Look forward to hearing from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BasimaAakif (talk • contribs) 12:32, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

BasimaAakif Your draft Draft:Anotah is just blatant advertising..."known for offering luxurious and quality products at an affordable price" "Anotah has also geared up to build a strong online presence" " offers a rich collection" none of this content is appropriate for an encyclopedia. Theroadislong (talk) 18:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Question for you.

Hi there, can you please create your own version of Mr. Daniels wiki .so it's more formal to be published? He's quite an impressive person and an old colleague. Thank you. Age — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgeWrites (talk • contribs) 13:29, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

AgeWrites I'm sorry but it's not a topic I have any interest in. Theroadislong (talk) 18:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Vita Kin

I think this topic of the article is sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. I've cleared out ads and spam. You can see this article, please. 192.71.166.25 (talk) 16:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

request for undo

Sir i respect Wikipedia guideline the link i have added to help peoples to understand the government scheme. you can visit please, and still if you think so apologize from my end sorry. (Durdana987 (talk) 20:34, 6 January 2020 (UTC)).

Help

I just noticed this new user: User talk:Modernist 2000; [1]; it's awfully close to my name and this editor seems to be working on pages that I have edited on...please can you help this person to change their name? Thank you...Modernist (talk) 21:54, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, I have no special powers over other peoples user names. I can only suggest what you have already done here [2] Good luck! Theroadislong (talk) 22:07, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks....Modernist (talk) 22:54, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Modernist Looks like that worked. Theroadislong (talk) 11:38, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Update to content on Optical Express Wikipedia page

Hello, I am messaging you with regards to updates that you rejected from the Optical Express Wikipedia page on 12th December 2019. Thanks firstly for your messages, that’s understood regarding the edits. There are some inaccuracies in the opening paragraph of the Optical Express article though which I think it important to correct if possible to do so in an acceptable way. The company’s description is misleading as the company is primarily a laser eye surgery and lens surgery specialist which also offers traditional vision correction options such as glasses and contact lenses. While it is headquartered in the UK, the company has clinics in a number of different countries. I also think it would be helpful to include the number of clinics operated by Optical Express – 130. Is it possible to make these changes to the opening paragraph? Trees88 (talk) 11:33, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

If you can find suitable independent sources for the content please suggest them on the article talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 11:36, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Request on 12:32:31, 7 January 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Lightbluerain

• Lightbluerain (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Rao Mohar Singh Memorial Senior Secondary Public School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, You declined my draft of Rao Mohar Singh School. I too feel that it was not good enough. But, look at Suzhou Polytechnic Institute of Agriculture. It also doesn't have any reference. And, there are many other like this on Wikipedia. So, can I know why you declined only my page? Thanks Lightbluerain (talk) 12:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you I have tagged it for speedy deletion as a blatant advert, see other poor quality articles exist. Theroadislong (talk) 13:08, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, question re. adopters

Hi Theroadislong,

You were kind enough to respond to my earlier communication, so I thought I'd come to you with this.

I would love to be adopted. I had a look at the Adopters section, and though they all seemed friendly and approachable, they also all seemed to be men.

I can cope with men, but I would really like to be adopted by a woman, if that's possible. (Men and women have different ways of learning, even if we end up at the same position in the end.) Is this sexist?

Anyway, I'd be grateful if you could tell me how to go about finding a female to adopt me (putting: WANTED, WOMAN on my 'help|me' section really does come across as sexist, and bit pervy).

Thanks in anticipation, Maryanne Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 19:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Maryanne Cunningham You can find help with adoption here Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 19:23, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks Theroadislong. I did the adventure (it had the magic word 'adventure' in it, as if editing wikipedia isn't enough of an adventure in itself...). It was very helpful, though I'm still slightly in despair over adding images. Never mind, I'll consult with the Teahouse tomorrow. For the moment, I think that's the way forward. Thanx again, Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 22:48, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Image dos and don'ts might be helpful, in fact anything you want more info on can usually be found in the search box with a "WP:" in front of it, if that makes sense? Theroadislong (talk) 22:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Chief Pat Article

Hey - just bumping this, I left the message below on Dec. 28th and didn't hear back. Would appreciate any help, thanks!

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Hi Theroadislong! Thanks for the feedback on the Draft:Chief_Pat page.

You noted that you had denied approval because YouTube was referenced for 7 of the 15 sources, however a majority of the YouTube citations were related to channel statistics/milestones that were rather obvious and perhaps not needing sourcing (1, 2, 5, and 6). Would it be better to remove those 4 references?

Otherwise, are the 8 other sources sufficient? There are other snippets that could be added with more colorful commentary, i.e. "Few individuals around the world are as synonymous within the mobile gaming scene as Chief Pat is" from https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/8269/igec-panel-highlight-mobile-esports-the-worlds-largest-niche-community, but I opted to keep things more clear-cut. I'd love to hear your feedback.

Here are some articles I'm using as reference for either gaming YouTubers, or esports organization founders/CEOs: Andy Dinh, OMGitsfirefoxx, Hafu_(video_game_player), Trump_(video_game_player) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kerastus717 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Dave Taranto

On 14th December I let the community know that I am writing an article on a producer, radio announcer and promoter David Taranto. It was rejected on the grounds that it wasn't relevant enough.

I believe I didn't provide enough information about the subject, or gave misleading info on my intentions, which might have made it appear that the article might be a bit amateurish. I hope I didn't mislead. I must stress that an article on David Taranto would provide crucial historical information on the Australian comedy industry.

I should explain. In the Melbourne comedy industry in the 1990s, David - Dave - Taranto showcased many Australian comedians who became international acts such as The Doug Anthony Allstars and Lano and Woodley, who received the Edinburgh Fringe's Perrier Award. The BBC subsequently produced a TV series starring Lano and Woodley. He promoted and broadcast many other successful comedy acts in the 1990s. Dave's untimely death in 1999 put an end to his short career. But a number of producers and myself feel that that specific era in Australian comedy is missing from the industry's history. I would like to create an article to provide the public with details of his career and activities. There are a number of other colleagues who will contribute information and edit facts.

To help you get a clearer picture, I am a performer, comedy writer, dramatic actor and playwright. In constructing a Wikipedia article I am committed to providing a professional product.

I have provided  information taken from Melbourne newspaper The Age' Bold text for your information.

I hope this allays any concerns you have regarding the importance of the article. I will proceed very slowly in slowly gathering verifiable facts and consult with other professionals amongst the comedy contributors. If you want further information about me, I have an IMDb page. There are also a number of articles about me online.

Thank you for your feedback, Theroadislong. Much appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards

Frederick - Fred - Rowan.

Help

what did you think of the article review — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacerdaferreira (talk • contribs) 16:35, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Russ Nelson's marriage certificate

How is that inappropriate? Just wondering. Public record is a public record... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hermenegildah (talk • contribs) 17:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

It is a primary source, Wikipedia only reports what reliable independent sources have published. Theroadislong (talk) 17:11, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

"reliable independent sources" - which are? The info about Russell's parents is unavailable online. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hermenegildah (talk • contribs) 17:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Sources do not have to be online but they do need to be independent, reliable and secondary. Theroadislong (talk) 17:25, 8 January 2020 (UTC)