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Reducing the protection level of today's featured article
Hello. I just noticed that you reduced the protection level of George Washington and slavery, which is on today's main page. Because it is featured in such a prominent page, there is a possibility that vandalism can occur there. And when you reduced the protection level to allow pending changes from IP users and new users, the vandals have begun to come in. I wonder what was the rationale for doing so while the article is still featured on the main page? There are other editors who are willing to revert vandalism as they happen, but with more disruptive editing being allowed, there is something to worry about. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 10:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- LSGH - I didn't reduce any previous protection that was already added to the article. The article wasn't edit protected at all; I simply added pending changes protection to it, which still allows editing by anonymous users, but must be reviewed and approved before their edits become visible to the public. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- My bad. You indicated, "why not try this instead of semi-protection", so I assumed that it was already protected. But nevertheless, thank you for responding there immediately. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 11:13, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- LSGH - No problem! Sorry for the confusion! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:20, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- My bad. You indicated, "why not try this instead of semi-protection", so I assumed that it was already protected. But nevertheless, thank you for responding there immediately. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 11:13, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
No subject
Thank you Oshwah for your welcome to Wiki note. I am a new Wiki Scholar and in my training course at present --Arual Mackey (talk) 11:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
You've got mail!
Message added 08:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. at any time by removing the
I don't know your exact policy with these talkback templates, and I'm sorry if this is something that bugs you, but I think this is something you might want to look at. Thanks in advance. –ToxiBoi! (public) 08:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi ToxiBoi! Please accept my apologies for the delay responding to you. I'll be checking my email tonight and I will respond to your message. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:03, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- ToxiBoi - Just replied. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Revision deletion request
Hey Oshwah, can you please delete this revision from history. It has a grossly inappropriate edit summary about two famous people. If possible, you might want to block the IP for sometime because they clearly aren't here to build an encyclopedia. Thanks a lot. I would appreciate if you ping to reply to me. Regards, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 04:37, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Field Marshal Aryan: Done by Glen. (talk page stalker) Jack Frost (talk) 05:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Field Marshal Aryan! I apologize for the delay responding to your request here. It looks like it's been taken care of, so I'll leave it at that. Please don't hesitate to reach out to me if I can do anything for you. I'll be happy to help! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:05, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah, No probs. Would it be better if I email you for every revision deletion request, in the future, or leave a message on your talk page. Your edit notice did say that I should email you but I didn't feel comfortable intruding in your non-wikipedia life. I do understand that in extreme cases it might be crucial. Thanks, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 10:11, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Wiki News and My Royal Young
I'd noticed that you and I have both received the same LTA message on Wiki News. I tried to revert one of the edits on a different user talk page and I was warned about that from blanking by a abuse filter. I then tried to explain to Wikinews: admin action alerts but when I clicked submit, the abuse filter took action and blocked me indefinitely on the site. Unfortunately that edit can't be proven from this Abuse filter log. And here's the block status the filter imposed.
By posting to the administrators notice board, hopefully someone can revert these edits made by the LTA without having trouble from the edit filters. I have never made a single edit on Wikinews so that would be my problem as a new user. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 11:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Iggy the Swan! Dang, that's quite a strict filter... They either have this problem at a level that's really bad, or someone is power-hungry (it's likely the former). Just appeal your block; a competent admin should be able to recognize that you aren't acting in bad faith but got caught into an unfortunate fishnet. Let me know what happens. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:50, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- I was already unblocked long before this reply. Thanks, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 09:18, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Iggy the Swan - Yeah, that may have been in part due to my delayed response... my apologies for that. Nonetheless, I'm glad to hear that the situation was resolved. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:56, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- I was already unblocked long before this reply. Thanks, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 09:18, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
I believe this account is actually a LTA banned user with a blatantly trolling username, rather than just a bad username choice. This account was recently created, likely by the same person. Elockid and Callanecc are both admins here, so that fits into the pattern. Thanks. 73.125.226.214 (talk) 05:04, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Good catch! Elockid is obviously a well-known user here (I know them quite extensively over the years I've been here). I should've caught that; this username given the new outlook on the context implies that this is a "manufacturer of Elockid usernames" AKA this user is making sock accounts. Extending block to disable account creation and autoblock the IP address used. I'm going to leave talk page access and email access available so that the user can appeal (just in case). Thanks for the message! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:53, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Tulsi rights change
Special:UserRights/Tulsi Bhagat
FYI as it revokes a right you granted. - Alexis Jazz 06:17, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Alexis Jazz - Thank you for letting me know about this. That's too bad; this user appeared to be on the up-and-up and could've excelled as an editor on this project. I obviously don't know the whole story, so I'm going to withhold judgment until I read up on everything. However, when concerns are expressed and enough evidence exists that someone actually revokes one or more of the accused user's access rights, the evidence presented is usually very strong. Thanks again for letting me know about this. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:56, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Private wikis
Hi, I just wanted to know if you know how much private wikis can be seen and if they can come up on search results like yahoo and google. Also do you know where I can find help with creating some? Cryptozoology is something that I might start with as this really intersts me. The reason that I have contacted you is because I was told you might be able to help me. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Davidgoodheart! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. When you refer to a "private wiki", what does this actually mean? A draft page on Wikipedia that you haven't published yet? Or a MediaWiki site that you create yourself on your own domain? Is that MediaWiki domain public and accessible to the internet? The best thing to do is assume that if it's open to the internet, it will be indexed by a search engine and able to be searched. However, user pages, draft pages, and other pages on Wikipedia aren't indexed by search engines such as Google due to having a flag set on them telling their index bots to skip that page. This makes sure that nothing belligerently incorrect or abusive is indexed and can be searched for on their engine. When you can, please provide me with some additional context and details and I'll be more than happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great weekend and happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:02, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- I was thinking of a MediaWiki site since they look very much like real wikis. Do you know where I could get some help with making some? Also please let me know if there is any way that I can link them to the internet. Thanks for your help, and I like your profile picture as well! Davidgoodheart (talk) 10:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Creatig a Page
Hello, I want a biography page to create about Turkish District Governer Ömer Faruk Çelik in English. When I wrote en.wikipedia.org.wiki/Omer_Faruk_Celik on seeking bar, the page was protected by you due to "this high-risk page is permanently template-protected to prevent vandalism". Could you please remove a ban on this page? or How can I create an biography about that person? Thanks. Bkaratas (talk) 11:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Glen not Ömer Çelik, different person Ömer Faruk Çelik ----> [[1]]Bkaratas (talk) 11:46, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Bkaratas Okay thanks, but Ömer Faruk Çelik isn't protected. What message are you seeing when you click here? Glen 11:51, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Glen When I click on page that shows me "The article that you're looking for doesn't exist." but there is a red lock sign (it means this high-risk page is permanently template-protected to prevent vandalism) top right-hand corner on the page. So, can I still publish an article? Then I was going to start writing and the title Ömer Faruk Çelik was going to be Draft:Ömer Faruk Çelik. How can I remove this "Draft" word? When I publish an article, it will be removed or is it permanent?
- I'll be glad if you can help me. Bkaratas (talk) 12:22, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Bkaratas It's simply because you're a new user. Once you are autoconfirmed you can write in mainspace. But it's a good idea to start the article in draftspace anyway, as because you're new you can get feedback. Please read Wikipedia:Drafts. After four days and ten edits you can move the article to Ömer Faruk Çelik. I'm going to leave a note on your talk page with some advice on editing. Glen 12:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Glen Thank you kindly :)Bkaratas (talk) 12:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Bkaratas pleasure, happy editing. Glen 12:38, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Glen - Thank you for responding and being so kind and helpful to this new user. I was very pleased with your kindness, level of effort, and your explanation and links to relevant pages. This is the exact kind of attitude, effort, and time that will positively attract new users to edit Wikipedia, keep them as editors long-term, and that I believe the majority of experienced Wikipedia users need to demonstrate and improve on. Thanks again. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:09, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Problem solved!
Hi Oshwah, the problem I sent you email about got solved, thanks to some help I got in IRC. So you don't have to worry about the complicated mess I created, because I learned how to use SD -G7 so I didn't need revdel. Thanks for your help on many other things, not least on recommending IRC for Wikipedia questions! HouseOfChange (talk) 02:27, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi HouseOfChange! No worries! I'm happy that you were able to receive help. I'm on IRC pretty much 24/7 in the #wikipedia-en channel, so stop by and say hello! You're always welcome there! Please don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you need input, help, or advice on anything at all - I'll be happy to lend a hand. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:14, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Page Move
I need help moving List of Gin Tama episodes (season 2) to Gintama (season 2) SpectresWrath (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- SpectresWrath, Hello, it will be nice if you put up a discussion on the talk page to establish a consensus before any move. Regards Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 22:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm following the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Season articles so that's why I need help moving it. SpectresWrath (talk) 02:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi SpectresWrath! Let's create a request here so that it can at least be reviewed and OK'd first. You can cite the naming convention page as the reason, and I'm sure that nobody will object. It's just better to be safe than sorry, and it's the right action to take here. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:16, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm following the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Season articles so that's why I need help moving it. SpectresWrath (talk) 02:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Wow
Searching up your name on Special:Userlist reveals so much accounts solely meant to mock and attack you. Just, wow. I think you might be tied with Jimbo Wales for "Most targeted user on the English Wikipedia." SuperGoose007 (Honk!) 00:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- SuperGoose007 - HA! You probably saw this discussion on the admin's noticeboard and checked out the link that someone put in there, am I right? ;-) Not sure if I'm tied with Jimbo Wales, but I'll simply say this: If people were/are resorting to doing that kind of tomfoolery and child-like behavior toward me, then I'm obviously doing my job correctly on this project, and I'm performing the duties and responsibilities that I've been trusted by the community with diligently and to the point where they have to do that stupid stuff. I wish it didn't have to happen, but what you saw was only a small taste compared to the actual amount of harassment, threats, and other bad stuff that administrators and functionaries have to deal with. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:23, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Using IRC
Hello! I want to connect to the Wikipedia IRC network, but I don't want random people finding out what my IP address is. Do you have any suggestions while I am waiting to meet the requirements to get a cloak? SuperGoose007 (Honk!) 02:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- SuperGoose007 - Getting a cloak may take some time, just be warned. In the meantime, you could use a VPN. Those work by having all of your traffic go through their servers, which in turn will mask your real IP address. Do you have a VPN service or a way to use one? You can simply google that term and you'll find many helpful results. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:25, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Closing time
Hi Oshwah, could you please close this RfC [2]? It's a total deadlock and 1 month has passed. ty, Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 22:16, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sadko - Oh boy... a discussion that's controversial, divided, and large in participation? Dang, I don't mind doing it, but it's going to take awhile to read through everything... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sadko - Actually, nevermind. This is actually a very easy close. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:31, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sadko - Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:41, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. :) Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 10:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sadko - You bet; always happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. :) Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 10:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sadko - Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:41, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sadko - Actually, nevermind. This is actually a very easy close. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:31, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Account verification
Please have look at this help desk query where I might need some admin/experienced user help: Wikipedia:Help desk#REPLACING MY PHOTO A user account claims to be Terry Carter but I have no way of verifying the, same even though his edit history indicates so. He is requesting that an image be added to his article (Terry Carter) but reverse image search makes me think that it is already copyrighted. I would appreciate if you (or any of the friendly talk page watchers) could help out and possibly verify his account. Thanks, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 06:19, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Field Marshal Aryan - Have the user contact the volunteer response team by visiting Wikipedia:Contact us/Article subjects. They have the tools and training in order to verify this person's identity and assist them with their request. No matter what this user says, shows us, or "proves" - in the end, we cannot truly verify or prove who this user claims to be. Full stop. We should always assume good faith of course, but the assumption of good faith does not mean that we "take one's word for it" and believe that someone is telling the truth regarding their identity. Sure, we can help this user. You gave good advice by telling them to upload the photo to Wikimedia Commons. What worries me is that this user may not understand Wikipedia's policies on copyright, and may find themselves in trouble if they repeatedly violate it. I basically took what I said in this response and added it to the discussion on the helpdesk for you. I hope that it is helpful, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can help you with anything else. I'll be more than happy to do so. I'd also make sure that he declares a conflict of interest with the article, even if we can't verify this user's real identity. This user obviously has one. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:48, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Field Marshal Aryan - Oh, and regarding the reverse image search you did: If you find that it may be copyrighted, it probably is. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:54, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah, Thanks a lot. You are the best. Regards, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 06:52, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Field Marshal Aryan - Always happy to lend a hand. ;-) I appreciate the kind words - they mean a lot! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:54, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah, Thanks a lot. You are the best. Regards, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 06:52, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Field Marshal Aryan - Oh, and regarding the reverse image search you did: If you find that it may be copyrighted, it probably is. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:54, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
i need to answer the reason
i found the image misleading for teenagers as it was a part of nudity in theSex Organ article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravinesh rds (talk • contribs) 12:08, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ravinesh rds - Thank you for the explanation. It just seems like you removed a lot of content without a clear reason. Why do you feel that the image was misleading to teenagers? Which image exactly? Why, based on your thoughts, should this be removed from an encyclopedia? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- hello i am ravinesh rds at 10:03 gmt
- you have asked for specific images that can be misleading so some images down there have either sexual poses or a abuse or dangerous sexual acts in them so i request you select you think could be misleading. these are only in my opinion could be. please don't stop anyone editing if he/she has a good reason. thank you i am glad to find wikipedia improving faster than any website. thank you
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nudist_camp_Valalta.JPG
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Haulover-skinny-dipping.JPG
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nice_Tattoo.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Ladybirds_opptrer_i_Bergen_The_Ladybirds_performing_in_Bergen,_Norway_(1968)_(6).jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bikinis_Bar_and_Grill_pose_with_musicians_cropped.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Twin_Peaks_Austin_Bikini_Car_Wash_Jul_2012.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NAP_2013_._Wet_T-Shirt_Contest_01.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nyotaimori_2.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:London_Burlesque_Festival_08_Fundraiser-46.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Folsom_Street_Fair_IMG_6560.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fuck_EURO2012.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Piss_drinking.png
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crystal_Couture_Fashion_Show_%26_Sale_(32140573303).jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ai_Himeno.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Godward-The_Mirror-1899.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gabrellia_nude.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amedeo_Modigliani_Reclining_Nude_The_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1969_%E2%80%9CGiacomo_Casanova%E2%80%9D_-_Senta_Berger_(2).jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Folsom_Street_Fair_master_and_2_slaves.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nude_slave_girl.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nude_pet_slave_girl.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BDSM_slaves.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Femdom_at_Eros_Pyramide.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bling-bling_-_table.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ostra_Three_naked_women.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bondage_model_and_rigger_at_BoundCon_2015_custom_photoshoot_8.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caged_woman.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2014_WGT_265_Umbra_Et_Imago.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Female_genital_clamps_2.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fisting_close-up_(cropped).jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wax_and_Pins_on_Nipples_edited-1.png
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tortured_breasts.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spanking_on_Bondage_Furniture.png
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spanking_on_Bondage_Furniture.png
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spanking_Bench.png
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bonda2x.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Frogtie-bb-lorelei-15303.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Breast_Bondage_Being_Bound.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Submissive_BDSM_poses.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Submissive_stripping_nude.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tit-pull_by_ropemarks.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shirtless_man_whipping_two_nude_women_crawling.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Woman_tied_to_door.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Four_fingers.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blue_Bikini_Model_in_Bondage_2.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bondage_(Hogtie)_Model_Jassi.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Queening-Stool.jpg
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jessica_Canizales_3.jpg
- Ravinesh rds (talk) 10:22, 12 July 2020 (UTC)Ravinesh RdsRavinesh rds (talk) 10:22, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ravinesh rds Wikipedia is not censored. Praxidicae (talk) 11:37, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ravinesh rds - As Praxidicae stated above, Wikipedia does not censor its content. Information in an encyclopedia is meant to be completely neutral and inclusive of all relevant and encyclopedic material, even if that material may offend a certain audience or group of readers. By removing images that you feel are "misleading to teenagers", you're not improving the encyclopedia by doing this; you're actually hindering information and hurting it. Remember that we're here to build an encyclopedia; we're not here to cater to a specific group or audience, nor be selective with the content that we publish simply because someone feels that it's "inappropriate". The cost that is associated with completely open and neutral content is that some information may be offensive or controversial to some people. However, that's what comes with the freedom of sharing all information. As far as the images go, I'm not going to review or delete any of them. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:38, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
It is time
Hi Oshwah, could you please close this RfC [3]? I think everything is clear, thank you. Mikola22 (talk) 21:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Mikola22 - Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- You are the best! Mikola22 (talk) 08:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Oshwah and @Mikola22: I made the change based on the RfC conclusion, though I was not a participant at the discussion myself. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 12:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ktrimi991 - Looks good, thanks for doing that. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:14, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep up the good work, Oshwah :) Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 14:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ktrimi991 - You as well! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks :) Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:07, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ktrimi991 - You as well! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep up the good work, Oshwah :) Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 14:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ktrimi991 - Looks good, thanks for doing that. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:14, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Oshwah and @Mikola22: I made the change based on the RfC conclusion, though I was not a participant at the discussion myself. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 12:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- You are the best! Mikola22 (talk) 08:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
my edit was not vandalism
Hi dear oshwah. I edited home inspection in Iran and you refused, at first i don't know the conditions but at second time i removed the subjects that can be assumed as advertisement. i just mentioned this industry in Iran is activated. i just use a quotation from Doctorsazen manager for telling to the reader the though atmosphere in Iran. is that advertising? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maleki.ah (talk • contribs) 07:45, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Maleki.ah - Your edits to the Home improvement article (here) went into great detail about a specific company, and went into detail about how they were a "pioneer of this job in Iran" and had "mature engineers with good experience in execution that found house market disorganized". This speaks positively about the company in a project where we're supposed to provide neutral encyclopedic content. This violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, and to the point where it appears that the content's intention is to advertise or promote the company. This is why I removed the content and left you a message regarding advertising and possible spam. If this wasn't your intent, please accept my apologies for the assumption; we always try to assume good faith on Wikipedia. This is why I left you a message and simply talked to you about it. Your content goes off the main topic of "home improvement" and focuses positively on a company. Please review the policy pages I provided you, and let me know if you have any questions. I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you for the message. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:06, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- thank you in advance oshwah. at first i didnt know the rules, but next i removed the pharses you mentioned and sent it. now i just edited iran category and i want you to look at this and see if it has advertisement content or not. best wishes from damavand mountain
- this industry started in early 2018 in iran, but the market has heavy resistance at begining. "at first inspections home owners have heavy guard for accepting an impartial engineer as an inspector. we had cases that home owner beated inspector and send him out" said DoctorSaze manager a home inspector company in iran.
- lack of this industry in market caused systematic corruption, and realtors did whatever they wanted. complex judiciary processes of Islamic republic of Iran was another reason that customers welcomed. they prefer to do the right thing and pay much more attention in agreement. legal authorities take long time in Iran for following the cases. consequently investor's money will damage in every small time periods due to Extreme inflation in country.
- Iranian people have their special culture of behavior; they often can hardly accept an third person(as specialist) that should obey him/her suggestion. they misunderstand the slogan " money talks". It is not logical to expect breaking this atmosphere in short time. they will soon adopt to this service, just like other developed countries.
- home buyer inspection was the first inspection in Iran, but rental inspection also have market. home owners are worried about damaging their house by tenants. This job has just developed its services in Iran for rental houses. but they yet have very hard work for doing this business in Iran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maleki.ah (talk • contribs) 08:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Maleki.ah - I understand that you're new, and that's completely okay. Mistakes are a big part of learning, and we try to assume good faith in order to accommodate and help our new users. I understand your thoughts here, but we need to focus on the article subject in a big picture, not focus on one company and their accomplishments in Iran. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Edit summary unhiding
The edit summaries contains a link to the image, so they should be suppressed (t · c) buidhe 10:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Buidhe - I juuuust noticed that. LOL - thanks for the heads up. I'm fixing it now. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:39, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
No subject
khalaimma pad marose toi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.204.83.162 (talk) 15:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're referring to. Do you need help with something? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Articles for Deletion - Keep/Delete question ?
Hi Oshwah, as you suggested to me earlier how to nominate AFD, i started off with few articles and i have reported them. I saw people comment Delete or Keep but i was confused as to how the decision made or who makes it. Is it like what the majority says in relation to keep or delete comment ? ThankyouKami2018 (talk) 00:46, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Kami2018! Great questions! Typically, an administrator will close these kinds of discussions and with the appropriate decision in the closing statement. While administrators will usually close discussions, policy does allow for non-administrator closure in certain situations.
- We determine the outcome of all of our discussions by consensus. We do not take the number of "votes" as the deciding factor, but the strength of the arguments themselves. Consensus can be said to have been achieved when a decision is made while addressing all of the legitimate and proper concerns raised. For example: If seven people simply comment "Delete" in a discussion and with weak reasons that do not cite policy or process, and one person supports keeping an article and with a strong argument that cites relevant policy, the closing administrator will certainly rule that the article will be kept. Consensus can be a little bit difficult at first to understand and grasp, but I'm sure you'll understand it after seeing some AFDs and other discussions closed. In fact, you can look at past AFD discussions as well as others if you'd like to gain a good grasp of the concept.
- Please let me know if you have any questions regarding consensus, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
need help
Hello sir. A user named Drat8sub is not assuming good faith with me and always argues. also wrote some insulting stuff, gaming the system and in return accuses me of gaming. and threatens of going to ANI. while in a discussion, drags me personally, without discussing politely, argues. i have some evidences. i am fed up with this guy. Examples-
- Check the edit summary
- false accusing of sock
- see the tone and words he used
- here i participated in a discussion, but he dragged me personally. later deleted my comments for no reason. I didnt take his name, but he dragged me in, and then threatens to go ANI. Doesnt follow neutral point of view, and all his discussion are for a single club. and then he tells me that i am not following rules.
- check the discussions here. he threatened to me to go to ANI there also. he then wrote some policies and says that i didnt open any discussion, whereas i opened a discussion a long before. without discussing, reverted my edits.
I have tried to maintain a happy environment all the time. but he went toxic. my whole day gets wasted with all these issue created by him. Sir, I just need a small help/suggestion. what to do, and how to get rid of this? thanks. ❯❯❯ S A H A 05:59, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi ArnabSaha, I'll be happy to try and sort this out and see what's going on. Drat8sub - Can you please respond to the complaint brought to my attention above? I agree that many of the edit summaries you've made have been uncivil, and I'd like to resolve this matter between the two of you. Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah, the user has been warned appropriately for the mistakes he has done, but still to harass me he just brought this to you. I can't believe this is happening. Complaining about 8 months old thing is itself a harassment to me when the line is very clearly drawn for where he was doing the mistakes, for this I need to revisit all history. It's a wastage of my time and your time too. Still, respecting your request I am trying to recollect.
- Case 1:
- addition of materials based on facebook post
- my revert assuming good faith and addressing that facebook & cannot be used when primary RS exists, websites like I League website, sports news or club website
- editwar by the user without adding a RS. Above that from his comment I understand that, either they have not gone through RS guidelines or could not understand the same evident from their E.summary, like, It was even stamped by the club, or regarding start and finish dates of the league, i will put a citation for that where failing to understand, it should be added during addition not afterwards.
- my revert per 3RRNO as no RS produced, along with reiterating the same thing.
- At this point they should not have continued the edit war, this will be the 3RR but they did again keeping the facebook link
- And again with adding more unsourced contents.
- Case 1:
- And, it is not that the user is new to wikipedia and not aware of guidelines of RS or the importance of citation or the 3RR. I warned him previously here for another article with another editor for edit war. Warning for persistently addition of unreliable sources where they accepted, and again warned for adding unreliable sources and failing to understand notability guidelines in another article [4] by another editor. This has been persistent in various occassion, if you go through user's edit history. After all these no editor will suppose to assume good faith in any way.
- Oshwah, the user has been warned appropriately for the mistakes he has done, but still to harass me he just brought this to you. I can't believe this is happening. Complaining about 8 months old thing is itself a harassment to me when the line is very clearly drawn for where he was doing the mistakes, for this I need to revisit all history. It's a wastage of my time and your time too. Still, respecting your request I am trying to recollect.
- So it seems like a sock to me. I don't wanted at that point to open an investigation because, wanted to give a chance through pointing out policies. And actually it worked after that it had stopped.
- Case 3: Only they knows what they are trying to establish by saying "tone". It seems like they just collected every bit of pieces they could to harass me.
- Case 4:This one is classic case of harassment in itself. This is where the real harassment starts I think. First the user accused and trying to provoke me calling me "Mohun Bagan supporter/spokesperson/fan"
- here and gone an extra mile to add "blindly" support MB here : Warned not to do the same again to harass or responding to tone. Now is this first time they did such? No, they accused everytime they had a difference of opinion, like this
- here or
- here calling me "acting as a spokesperson of Mohun Bagan" among several other bad faith commentaries. And they did not stop here, even after pointing out the policies to them here, but instead using bad faith commentary "not to speak" here. So, ANI at this case become very evident after all these violation still they should be thankful I did not and should have taken this as warning.
- But they have not stopped here, when they were warned here, instead of accepting their failure to understand guidelines and violation, they were in complete denial mode and telling same sympathy gaining story...I am doing good and I am peaceful.
- Above that in the concerned article they failed to understand policies like owning article, while doing edit warring persistently in this article too for which warned here. But stil in denial when the 3RR violation was in clear line.
- Finally, its exhausting and total harassment for me to point out everytime all these page history. Drat8sub (talk) 05:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah thanks sir, for replying. but i dont want to talk with this rude guy anymore. (i wish, if wiki had a block feature ) ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Drat8sub, "Complaining about 8 months old thing" didnt u complain about a november issue? at first check urself. i never wanted to complain, but I had to do, because u did. "websites like I League website" at that time i-league website wasnt updated, and showed previous season data. "This one is classic case of harassment in itself" didnt u threaten of going to ANI and sock? an in the most recent discussion, why did u drag me personally? i wrote my opinion, did i tag u? but why u personally attacked me? "Above that in the concerned article they failed to understand policies" just like u assume good faith policy and NPOV policy. u were told multiple times to follow agf and npov, but u were gaming the system and shouting. "Above that in the concerned article they failed to understand policies like owning article" i never said, i own the article. dont false accuse. "But stil in denial when the 3RR violation was in clear line." i reverted just thrice. and it was a issue with 2 editors. one of them had misunderstanding. "I don't wanted at that point to open an investigation because" u cant even open because u r false accusing. I stopped in the 3rd because of the policy, and a discussion started. Facebook source it can be used as per WP:FACEBOOK, if its an official handle. and i cited the same. well, u didnt revert the mohunbagans home stadium data. it was unsourced too. (violation of NPOV again) "with adding more unsourced contents" none of them were unsourced. the stadium tables hardly contain any source, so i added the link in the infobox. and in the very next edit i added source. "bad faith commentary" a bad faith commentator speaking about it. its funny, tbh. "instead of accepting their failure to understand guidelines and violation" i did accept. cant help if u cant see. "sympathy gaining story" my account, my internet, i will decide what will i write. u simply cant assume anything. till date u didnt give any proper reason, why u removed Template:Fb a header. u were toxic, and reply in a demeaning way. "Finally, its exhausting and total harassment for me to point out everytime all these page history." then why did u drag me in personnally? ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- ArnabSaha - You can mute other editors by navigating to their user page, and then clicking on "Mute this user". See this page for more information regarding exactly what it "mutes" and what it doesn't. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah, thanks a lot. regards 19:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oshwah thanks sir, for replying. but i dont want to talk with this rude guy anymore. (i wish, if wiki had a block feature ) ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
I'm here to support administrators
Hey I'm here to support adminstration. I'm Donald pack. If a user disturpt Wikipedia I'm blocking them. Even if I don't have the attorney to that. But I'm still helping out — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donald pack (talk • contribs) 23:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Donald pack, and welcome to Wikipedia! You don't have to be an administrator in order to patrol recent changes, revert vandalism, and warn users for their behavior. That's what I started doing when I was new and wanting to get involved with Wikipedia and how to improve the project. I was amazed that this was something that anybody could do, and it's been a task that I've been doing for going on 12 years now. Consider getting involved with doing this; it sounds like something you'd enjoy doing. :-) Please let me know if I can answer any questions or help you with anything, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Again, welcome! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- I just banned a user from wikipedia I will send the banned userDonald pack (talk) 00:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Lemme send you the URL for the GoFundMe that Oshwah and I set up, if you really want to support admins. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 00:02, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Donald pack, or User:Romello Brooks, please get a different hobby. This is kind of ... well. Drmies (talk) 00:06, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Lemme send you the URL for the GoFundMe that Oshwah and I set up, if you really want to support admins. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 00:02, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- I just banned a user from wikipedia I will send the banned userDonald pack (talk) 00:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
You Deleted my Bio
Hello,
Hope your well, I just wrote my first Bio for an Artist, could you please help on how I can get this back without it being deleted.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emporia Music Producer (talk • contribs) 01:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Emporia Music Producer - It appears that you were attempting to write a bio about yourself. Is this correct? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:43, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Emporia Music Producer - Also, is Christina Emporia another account that you created? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Just the first one, knew to all of this - my manager did the other page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emporia Music Producer (talk • contribs) 01:49, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Emporia Music Producer - Okay, are you being paid or compensated in any way to edit Wikipedia? If so, you are required to disclose this information. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:56, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- No not at all being paid for any of this, just knew to it and trying to create — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emporia Music Producer (talk • contribs) 02:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Emporia Music Producer - You said above that both yourself and your manager have accounts, and you both appear to be creating pages about the same person... This usually means that there's a reason for doing this that doesn't benefit the project directly. What is it that you're trying to do exactly? What are you trying to accomplish? I'll be happy to help so long as Wikipedia's policies and guidelines are followed, such as this one and this one. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:47, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- No not at all being paid for any of this, just knew to it and trying to create — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emporia Music Producer (talk • contribs) 02:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Emporia Music Producer - Okay, are you being paid or compensated in any way to edit Wikipedia? If so, you are required to disclose this information. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:56, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Just the first one, knew to all of this - my manager did the other page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emporia Music Producer (talk • contribs) 01:49, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Emporia Music Producer - Also, is Christina Emporia another account that you created? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Viking Web Scanner blocks
Hi, Oshwah. I think you made a mistake in putting a soft block on Viking Web Scanner and Viking Web Scanner 12. When a brand new account makes precisely 10 trivial edits in user space, such as adding 2 characters at a time to a sandbox, and then stops, it is obvious they are trying to become autoconfirmed, usually to evade semiprotection on some page, occasionally for other purposes, such as creating a spam article without having to go through AfC. I think the best way to handle that is to make a note to check on the account after 4 days when it becomes autoconfirmed, and then consider what action, if any, is suitable. Giving the account a soft block positively encourages them to do the same with a new account under a totally different name, so that we can't watch out for it.
What do you say to removing the blocks? It may by now be too late, if the person has already seen the blocks, but it may not, and it seems to me to be worth a try. JBW (talk) 08:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
When I posted the above message, I knew that Viking Web Scanner had made precisely 10 edits, all within a few minute, stopping quite a while before you blocked, and I mistakenly thought that Viking Web Scanner had done the same. I have now seen that Viking Web Scanner 12 was editing up to a few minutes before the block, which unfortunately increases the likelihood that they saw the block and moved to another account. Nevertheless, I still suggest we remove the blocks, as it may help, and is virtually certain to at the worst do no harm. JBW (talk) 08:32, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi JBW! Thanks for the message. Did you see that another account, Ruthless Web Scanner, was also created? The reason I blocked was because I had seen these accounts, and noticed that they were each making meaningless edits to their own sandbox in order to become autoconfirmed (as you stated). Nonetheless, I trust your judgment and I will unblock the accounts. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:25, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Done. I've unblocked the accounts. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:28, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- No, I hadn't seen Ruthless Web Scanner.
- The fact that the Ruthless Web Scanner account was created shortly after you blocked the others suggests that the editor had seen the blocks and was indeed trying to evade them, as I suggested.
- On the other hand, if that is so then the fact that the person chose a new user name so closely related to the names of the blocked accounts suggests a certain lack of skill at avoiding scrutiny, which is obviously a good thing.
- I see you also blocked Furious Web Scanner. JBW (talk) 16:27, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- JBW - Oops, I meant to unblock that account alongside the others. I've unblocked it now. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- JBW - Just found another one doing the exact same thing... NordacatVerisign. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
178.16.14.19
She is back as user:178.16.14.19 . CLCStudent (talk) 12:20, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- CLCStudent - Blocked. Thank you! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
You've got mail!
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- Serial Number 54129 - Situation handled, and I replied to your email. Thanks again! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:41, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
God bless you!
Always. 2409:4052:2E97:88B1:388B:BE7F:C917:3E39 (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- I appreciate the kind words. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:29, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
please listen many people are spending time to come out of this
several pages in quora like
- https://www.quora.com/How-can-Wikipedia-have-pictures-of-naked-people
- https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-block-inappropriate-or-pornographic-pictures-from-appearing-in-Wikipedia
- https://www.quora.com/Does-Wikipedia-have-a-problem-with-unfiltered-porn-while-being-heavily-used-by-children-If-so-what-should-we-do-about-it
and also some images like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Femdom_at_Eros_Pyramide.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tortured_breasts.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Woman_tied_to_door.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Four_fingers.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:London_Burlesque_Festival_08_Fundraiser-46.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BDSM_slaves.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Folsom_Street_Fair_master_and_2_slaves.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blue_Bikini_Model_in_Bondage_2.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravinesh rds (talk • contribs) 19:43, 14 July 2020 (UTC) and in the page of censoring of wipedia is discussed there is written that painting of 20 th century depicting sex or some animated images are used to make things better but in contrast these images give wrong messages like women being tied like a dog which can be a huge embarrassment showing women as a sexual toy. Bold textwould you like your children watching nude images and sex poses as shown in the images ? if you are a father and if you are not expcept the nudist community all the parents don't wanted this as it can also led to some serious issues like sexual assault and sexual harassment which you and me and everybody oppose can be possible if a imature or antisocial elemnts sees them and gets turned on . i apologize if you get hurt by the very mature language thank you for listening. Ravinesh rds (talk) 18:53, 14 July 2020 (UTC)Ravinesh RdsRavinesh rds (talk) 18:53, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ravinesh rds - As I said above, while these images may certainly offend or disturb you, they are fit for an encyclopedia and are being used in relevant articles. Wikipedia is not censored, and we publish and provide articles and content on any and every article subject - even those that are contentious in nature. That's the premise behind an encyclopedia - to provide knowledge and content with any subject that the reader seeks to learn about. I understand that you have concerns regarding the portrayal of sex and doing so in a way that you feel is morale, but Wikipedia and its articles is not the place to exert these feelings. We have policies and guidelines that must be followed, with one being that we write articles and content to reflect a neutral point of view. We don't write articles to reflect your thoughts and point-of-view, nor do we write articles to reflect mine, or someone else's. It means that we write it to support neutrality. Removing images that are being used to add encyclopedic value to articles is disruptive to the project. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:54, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- The scenarios you lay out above assume, as a baseline, that a parent is not doing their job and just letting the Internet babysit for them. The surest way to stop those scenarios is to actively parent. Install filters on your computer and make it a hassle to bypass them. Monitor your kids' internet usage. Limit Internet access, if need be. Anything less is dereliction of your duty as a parent. —A little blue Bori v^_^v 2020's a bust; thanks SARS-CoV-2 20:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hi, Ravinesh rds. Just wanted to let you know that there are measures within Wikipedia that can prevent wrong exposure to children. You might want to read them. Thanks, Field Marshal Aryan (talk) 21:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ravinesh rds, your edits to Naturism and Topfreedom were completely contrary to your stated intention above, in that the edits distorted the presentation of almost all the images even though they are not of a sexual nature. A responsible parent is not going to make a song and dance about the fact that people have bodies. Nudity is not the same as sexuality, nudist communities have very few cases of sexual assault (as you will know if you have read the article, and especially the sources that the article links to), and a child is not going to understand that a picture of a bare-chested woman walking on a beach could be inappropriate unless they are told that it is – and even then, they won't understand why. To a normal kid, pictures of regular nude people are exactly as pornographic as a picture of a pair of shoes, or a picture of a blue sky with clouds on it. And as for teenagers who (unlike most children) are often interested in sex and sexuality, it is even more important to present a healthy view of human bodies, such as is presented in those two articles. Articles about explicitly sexual topics are not written for children, so that's not a problem. (I agree that a few of the pictures you linked to above are not particularly pleasant to view, but I wonder why you linked to a bunch of contextless images where several are not even used on English Wikipedia, unless your purpose was to get more viewers to those pictures. Congratulations, I guess?) --bonadea contributions talk 21:47, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Deletion
You deleted something. The something is pointless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.168.131.137 (talk) 20:44, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you're referring to. Can you explain and provide some context? Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:53, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
AGF gone mad
If you believe that, you're better at assuming good faith than I am. (Well, I already know you are.) But let's wait and see, of course. Bishonen | tålk 21:21, 14 July 2020 (UTC).
- Bishonen - HA! Right. That's right up there with "my little brother did it." I guess we'll see... :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)